Originally posted by The Great Galen
Well thats how I thnk anyways, a non cis PC supes would easily be skyfather.
Pre crisis superman is above skyfather. Current superman is considered a high top tier but TO ME is below a high herald, maybe mid herald and thats power wise. I dont understand why people also say that hulk is herald level when he is so one dimentional that its ridiculous (even though he can beat half of the people that is placed in forum battles). I think that people just have a different definition of herald class beings and just top tiers. I consider thor, brb, gl, firestorm, proteus, god like cable, black bolt (considering that he has matter manipulating powers... create black hole, matter destruction blast, along with 100's of more powers), orion with astro force, (cant think of any more) to be high herald level beings due to there versatility. Thats just how I feel. Surfer is as high as a herald as you can get and almost everyone that I named can almost mimic everything that he can do and generate as much power as he can.
Originally posted by carver9PC superman isn't above sky-father with CIS haha 🙂 talks to much!
Pre crisis superman is above skyfather. Current superman is considered a high top tier but TO ME is below a high herald, maybe mid herald and thats power wise. I dont understand why people also say that hulk is herald level when he is so one dimentional that its ridiculous (even though he can beat half of the people that is placed in forum battles). I think that people just have a different definition of herald class beings and just top tiers. I consider thor, brb, gl, firestorm, proteus, god like cable, black bolt (considering that he has matter manipulating powers... create black hole, matter destruction blast, along with 100's of more powers), orion with astro force, (cant think of any more) to be high herald level beings due to there versatility. Thats just how I feel. Surfer is as high as a herald as you can get and almost everyone that I named can almost mimic everything that he can do and generate as much power as he can.
I say Amazo win this fight even without copying SS/BRB powers
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Originally posted by jltruthThe Firestorm matrix alone gives amazing as many powers as Bill has. Amazo has more abilities than both characters but the power cosmic is kinda strange so I might be wrong.
I can name at least 12 powers from beta ray bill alone and lol at wonder woman being brb's equal unless you have some on panel proof of wonder destroying two planets on her own and also fighting/stalemating a being that is a universal threat. Brb is already physically everything wonderwoman is plus interest. Again wonderwoman held her own against amazo, what makes you think that amazo is taking a duo out like this that consist of two of the most powerful characters in marvel.
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Originally posted by iceman24567
The Firestorm matrix alone gives amazing as many powers as Bill has. Amazo has more abilities than both characters but the power cosmic is kinda strange so I might be wrong.
Think of something that Amazo can do, besides Plastic Man's abilities, and I can probably name something Surfer can do with the PC to match it. Lol.
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Originally posted by EnyalusHow about thinking strategically like Batman? Or even the batkick? 😱
Think of something that Amazo can do, besides Plastic Man's abilities, and I can probably name something Surfer can do with the PC to match it. Lol.
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Originally posted by iceman24567
How about thinking strategically like Batman? Or even the batkick? 😱
Prove that Amazo has the Batkick ability! No one else has it! No one!
But yeah, Surfer computes billions of possibilities in less than a second. I don't really see why he wouldn't be able to think strategically. Granted, I can't recall him showing it. 😛
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Originally posted by Enyalus
Prove that Amazo has the Batkick ability! No one else has it! No one!But yeah, Surfer computes billions of possibilities in less than a second. I don't really see why he wouldn't be able to think strategically. Granted, I can't recall him showing it. 😛
Yet he was still having issues agaisnt Thor even with Loki's amp...and let's not forget that little incident agaisnt WM Thor heh.
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Originally posted by The Great Galen
Yet he was still having issues agaisnt Thor even with Loki's amp...and let's not forget that little incident agaisnt WM Thor heh.
Who low showing is worse, being stalemated by wonder woman, along with getting stabbed by flash who wasnt going nothing but mach 9 and getting shot through by gl.
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Originally posted by carver9
Who low showing is worse, being stalemated by wonder woman, along with getting stabbed by flash who wasnt going nothing but mach 9 and getting shot through by gl.
I'll take being stabbed at mach 9 as opposed to being punched times by a brick like Thanos who doesnt even have super speed.
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Originally posted by The Great Galen
I'll take being stabbed at mach 9 as opposed to being punched times by a brick like Thanos who doesnt even have super speed.
Lets not forget, thanos>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that rod that flash was holding even if it was going mach 9.
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Originally posted by carver9
Who low showing is worse, being stalemated by wonder woman, along with getting stabbed by flash who wasnt going nothing but mach 9 and getting shot through by gl.
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Originally posted by fangirl101
Flash, Gl, and Wonder Woman are all higher end herald lvl. What the heck are you takling about. It even shows amazo having fun with the fight. basically just goading them.
Thanos charged up fist>>>>anyone that you just named.
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Originally posted by fangirl101
Flash, Gl, and Wonder Woman are all higher end herald lvl. What the heck are you takling about. It even shows amazo having fun with the fight. basically just goading them.
When has robots ever thought about playing around with someone.