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His origin was so kickass because well, even thou we find out what made him the way he is and why he does what he does we never really know who is behind the mask at all. At least not until its passed on, but the great thing is no one will probably ever really know who the man in room five really was.
Originally posted by Entity
VHis origin was so kickass because well, even thou we find out what made him the way he is and why he does what he does we never really know who is behind the mask at all. At least not until its passed on, but the great thing is no one will probably ever really know who the man in room five really was.
I haven't agreed with any answer in this thread until this post.
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Originally posted by Entity
AngelI know its not an official comic first character but I just always found the entire origin of Angel/Angelus to be just incredibly well done. This punk kid in 17th century Ireland gets turned by a vampire seductress and proceeds to become the greatest evil vampire of all time without his coincidence holding him back as it would any normal person. Only to have it returned to him as a curse for all the evil he'd done and continue to spend his immortality trying to gain redemption for sins he was never able to truly be responsible for.
Whedon is just incredible with that shit IMO. 😄
or.... Whedon just basically ripped off Anne Rice and the Vampire Lestat....
Don't get me wrong... Buffy was one of the only shows I ever really watched on TV, and I freaking LOVE Whedon's work... but his Buffy universe is fun because it's quirky and clever, not because it's particularly original.
Originally posted by Galan007
superman- i doubt i really need to explain why.kyle rayner- mainly because a ring was just thrown at him by the last guardian, yet he eventually became one of the greatest GL's in the corps history.
speedball's transformation into penance- seeing the emotional/mental changes he endured after the first casualties of civil war was quite something.
Penance's encounter with Doc Samson in Ellis' Thunderbolts is freaking fantastic. At first I thought I thought the whole Speedball/Penance thing was just kind of absurd, in taking such a light, airy character and turning him into the poster child for Hot Topic, but Ellis made it work SO WELL during Thunderbolts that I really appreciated it.
Mister Sinister's original origin.
Originally posted by tjcoady
Penance's encounter with Doc Samson in Ellis' Thunderbolts is freaking fantastic. At first I thought I thought the whole Speedball/Penance thing was just kind of absurd, in taking such a light, airy character and turning him into the poster child for Hot Topic, but Ellis made it work SO WELL during Thunderbolts that I really appreciated it.
Just bought that in trade this weekend, totally agree. Slightly annoyed Bullseye, my favourite current Thunderbolt, didn't have a larger role but it was still really good ✅
this is a great thread by the way 👆
-silver surfer most heroic origin.
-spider-man, kinda cheesy at first but once the uncle ben murder part kicks in... pure gold. "with great power comes greater responsibility", deep.
-batman imo dc's best by far. definitely top five imo.
-punisher.... perfect name for a character that can't get over what happened to his loved ones.
-magneto. adversity only made him stronger.
-beta ray bill. he actually deserves mjolnir more than thor does.
-ultron. worst case scenario of the quest to create sentient technology.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Mister Sinister's original origin.
wow. just... and people say claremont is senile... bermm
its like watching george lucas talking about vader and anakin now...
i think superman's (yeah, superman) origin is terribly underrated...
he grows up knowing that he's the only one of his race, and that he's different from everyone else in almost every way...
so when he grows up, he decides to help people purely because he wants to. he isn't driven by revenge, or a sense of duty, or anything like that. earth gives him a home, takes him in, and he becomes its protector while his nemesis personifies every single bad thing about humanity, and he STILL keeps doing what he does...
he could quit at any time, but he chooses not to...
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Mister Sinister's original origin.
That's now easily in my top five. Especially the way he explains it.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That's now easily in my top five. Especially the way he explains it.
Yeah. It's essentially, a twisted version of the relationship between Billy Batson and Captain Marvel.
When considering that origin, Mr. Sinister's corny appearance and stereotypical supervillain demeanor actually make sense. It also explains his minions: The Nasty Boys (a name an eight-year-old would be far more likely to pick than a mad geneticist) earn their name by being filthy ultra-slobs, living in conditions.
Lets be honest, Mr. Sinister is a cliché. Not only is he un-original, every concept related to him has been done to death.
I can't remember if it was Peter David or Erik Larsen who (back in the 90's) said that Sinister was a terrible character because he was just a collection of powers given to a cool looking guy who had no real motivation or personality. Chris Claremont's original origin explain this perfectly, and is consistent with the character- the Victorian London is not.
'Mr. Sinister' is a generic bad guy name, the idea of someone taking on this word as a name just because it was the last word out of their dying wife's mouth is just stupid. Who name themselves after an adjective? An invented generic supervillian, that's who, NOT a 19th century geneticist.
What are his power limits? What exactly are his powers? This type of stuff only makes sense if he was a fabrication.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Yeah. It's essentially, a twisted version of the relationship between Billy Batson and Captain Marvel.When considering that origin, Mr. Sinister's corny appearance and stereotypical supervillain demeanor actually make sense. It also explains his minions: The Nasty Boys (a name an eight-year-old would be far more likely to pick than a mad geneticist) earn their name by being filthy ultra-slobs, living in conditions.
Lets be honest, Mr. Sinister is a cliché. Not only is he un-original, every concept related to him has been done to death.
I can't remember if it was Peter David or Erik Larsen who (back in the 90's) said that Sinister was a terrible character because he was just a collection of powers given to a cool looking guy who had no real motivation or personality. Chris Claremont's original origin explain this perfectly, and is consistent with the character- the Victorian London is not.
'Mr. Sinister' is a generic bad guy name, the idea of someone taking on this word as a name just because it was the last word out of their dying wife's mouth is just stupid. Who name themselves after an adjective? An invented generic supervillian, that's who, NOT a 19th century geneticist.
What are his power limits? What exactly are his powers? This type of stuff only makes sense if he was a fabrication.
to be honest, while i might agree on some parts, the '10 year old boy' thing just irks me, and if it was true would just annoy the hell out of me given some of the undertones portrayed in his appearences...
Originally posted by Raoul
to be honest, while i might agree on some parts, the '10 year old boy' thing just irks me, and if it was true would just annoy the hell out of me given some of the undertones portrayed in his appearences...
But as a ten year old he'd really be 100 years old.
What undertones?
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But as a ten year old he'd really be 100 years old.What undertones?
his obsession with the summers gene/family for one... and he's just creepy... like, really creepy... thats when sinister is at his best, imo...
and honestly, are they honestly trying to tell us that cyclops' one bloody rogue is a ten year old boy?
and 100 = 10 too, so... 😛