Black Lightning And Hawkman vs. Wolverine and Gambit

Originally posted by Bentley
So Hawkman solos.

Hawkman is vastly underated

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-47-003.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-47-004.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-47-005.jpg
4. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-47-006.jpg
5. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-47-007.jpg

Yes, Hawkman took out thousands of Gordanian's himself

Originally posted by -K-M-
1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/JSA_03_03.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/JSA_03_04-05.jpg

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/JLA030-800-03.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/JLA030-800-04.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/JLA030-800-05.jpg

want more?

The 2nd comic was more of flying and standing still... when getting knock out by Hawkman

How is BL stronger than Gambit, for the people who said he is?

Originally posted by vansonbee
More please.
The first villain apparently focus on killing more civilian's. He was pretty good at anticipated where she gonna go, I say that.

The 2nd comic was more of flying and standing still... when getting knock out by Hawkman

Errrr...no.

Black Adam
1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv4_25_pyrate_p11.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv4_25_pyrate_p12.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv4_25_pyrate_p13.jpg
4. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv4_25_pyrate_p14.jpg

1. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/BlackAdam3-p14.jpg
2. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/BlackAdam3-p15.jpg
3. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/BlackAdam3-p16.jpg
4. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/BlackAdam3-p17.jpg
5. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/BlackAdam3-p18.jpg
6. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/BlackAdam3-p19.jpg

Aquaman
1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-13.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-14.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-15.jpg
4. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-16.jpg
5. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-17.jpg
6. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-18.jpg
7. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-19.jpg

Wonder Woman
1. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/JLAClassified48010.jpg
2. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/JLAClassified48011.jpg

and their's more so I suggest you just look at the respect thread. He has even recently tagged Jay Garrick (Flash I), but I don't have those scans uploaded yet

Good scans k-m and I agree, he is underrated but if we was to list all the things wolverine has done then we'll be listing all day. I can give you some examples though.

Wolverine vs new york. Wolverine basically soloed the marvel u (not any top tiers present).

Wolverine fought xcaliber by himself. Soloed the xmen on how many of occasions.

Fought alpha flight and stalemated them, asking rogue to go get the rest of the xmen.

Fought a 1000 trained ninjas in one of his first comics and killed them all.

Even though hawkman has some amazing feats and is one of the best in the field I think that wolverine would cut him down a few.

Originally posted by carver9
Good scans k-m and I agree, he is underrated but if we was to list all the things wolverine has done then we'll be listing all day. I can give you some examples though.

Wolverine vs new york. Wolverine basically soloed the marvel u (not any top tiers present).

Wolverine fought xcaliber by himself. Soloed the xmen on how many of occasions.

Fought alpha flight and stalemated them, asking rogue to go get the rest of the xmen.

Fought a 1000 trained ninjas in one of his first comics and killed them all.

Even though hawkman has some amazing feats and is one of the best in the field I think that wolverine would cut him down a few.

I didn't even post Hawkman's best feats 😬

Key word not any top tiers present

Hawkman has fought the JSA on his own and was winning, plus Thanagarian Gods and Surtur.

When did he stalemate Alpha Flight? and if you talking about the team with Radius, Flex, etc. your leaving out a HUGE peice of context 😬

I just posted scans above of Hawkman killing thousands of Gordians. Gordians > ninjas

and you would be wrong as people better and stronger then Wolverine failed to do so.

EDIT: When you say cut him down do you mean kill him or just beat him? As I do think Wolverine can take a few, but with a non-jobbing Hawkman he isn't taking a majority.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Errrr...no.

Black Adam
1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv4_25_pyrate_p11.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv4_25_pyrate_p12.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv4_25_pyrate_p13.jpg
4. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hawkmanv4_25_pyrate_p14.jpg

1. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/BlackAdam3-p14.jpg
2. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/BlackAdam3-p15.jpg
3. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/BlackAdam3-p16.jpg
4. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/BlackAdam3-p17.jpg
5. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/BlackAdam3-p18.jpg
6. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/BlackAdam3-p19.jpg

Aquaman
1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-13.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-14.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-15.jpg
4. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-16.jpg
5. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-17.jpg
6. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-18.jpg
7. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-19.jpg

Wonder Woman
1. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/JLAClassified48010.jpg
2. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/JLAClassified48011.jpg

and their's more so I suggest you just look at the respect thread. He has even recently tagged Jay Garrick (Flash I), but I don't have those scans uploaded yet

Again, nice scans but I just wanted to say this, wolverine is different from the people that you just showed. I'm not saying that wolverine is more powerful then any of the people in the scans but he does have the tools to bring hawk man down.

Example, hulk has faced some of the most powerful beings in marvel u but the person that he dread fighting the most is wolverine because wolverine is better equipted at fighting hulk. Hell he is basically a miniature hulk without strength but adamantium instead.

In a fight wolverine would own hawk man 8/10

Originally posted by -K-M-
I didn't even post Hawkman's best feats 😬

Key word not any top tiers present

Hawkman has fought the JSA on his own and was winning, plus Thanagarian Gods and Surtur.

When did he stalemate Alpha Flight? and if you talking about the team with Radius, Flex, etc. your leaving out a HUGE peice of context 😬

I just posted scans above of Hawkman killing thousands of Gordians. Gordians > ninjas

and you would be wrong as people better and stronger then Wolverine failed to do so.

EDIT: When you say cut him down do you mean kill him or just beat him? As I do think Wolverine can take a few, but with a non-jobbing Hawkman he isn't taking a majority.

I know that your the best when it comes to alpha flight. Guardian was present when wolverine was soloing them and this is the one where guardian shot him off of his motorcycle.

I got a question for you. How well do you think that hawk man could handle wolverines adamantium claws.

I know how well wolverine could handle hawkmans hammer, I just need to know the other way around.

First of all you can't even say that wolverine is more skilled or has more experience as hawkman has been doing his thing for thousands of years. much more than wolvie. also he's faster stronger, and he has a monstrous healing factor like wolverine. i don't see wolvie beating him

Originally posted by carver9
Again, nice scans but I just wanted to say this, wolverine is different from the people that you just showed. I'm not saying that wolverine is more powerful then any of the people in the scans but he does have the tools to bring hawk man down.

Example, hulk has faced some of the most powerful beings in marvel u but the person that he dread fighting the most is wolverine because wolverine is better equipted at fighting hulk. Hell he is basically a miniature hulk without strength but adamantium instead.

In a fight wolverine would own hawk man 8/10

and Hawkman has the tools to bring Wolverine down, I havn't even addressed how he has guns that can instantly shut people's minds down, creating air currents sucking the air out of an area, summoning animal totems, or Hawkman calling thousands of birds into a fight to do his bidding, etc. 😬

Hawkman has victories over some of the most powerful people in the DCU, and has put up a hell of a fight against the top elite characters. He has a great of variety then just a guy who flies

Unlikely, especially with Hawkman's speed and strength. He has even been shown to toe a fairly large spaceship with him.

Does Hawkman healing factor regenerate his limbs?

Originally posted by Superherovandal
First of all you can't even say that wolverine is more skilled or has more experience as hawkman has been doing his thing for thousands of years. much more than wolvie. also he's faster stronger, and he has a monstrous healing factor like wolverine. i don't see wolvie beating him

Your statement is like saying that thor can fight better then wolverine or even captain america. Even though thor is trained in almost every fighting style on his home world wolverine is a much better fighter.

And there was nothing displayed of hawkman being faster. He has good eye site, I agree with that but I still consider wolverine to be a notch above him when it comes to speed.

Originally posted by carver9
I know that your the best when it comes to alpha flight. Guardian was present when wolverine was soloing them and this is the one where guardian shot him off of his motorcycle.

I got a question for you. How well do you think that hawk man could handle wolverines adamantium claws.

I know how well wolverine could handle hawkmans hammer, I just need to know the other way around.

That wasn't the real Guardian, but they were brainwashed and half their memory was erased preventing them from using their skills and abilities which was said in the comic. Even Storm mentioned they were fighting like they were brain washed...which they were. They even thought Wolverine was magical and created by Shaman.

They would most definetly cut him, but tagging Hawkman would be a feat onto itself and his healing factor has him healing wounds in seconds such as having his neck slicked open by Headhunter. So I doubt one slash would be enough

Originally posted by carver9
Your statement is like saying that thor can fight better then wolverine or even captain america. Even though thor is trained in almost every fighting style on his home world wolverine is a much better fighter.

And there was nothing displayed of hawkman being faster. He has good eye site, I agree with that but I still consider wolverine to be a notch above him when it comes to speed.

Except Hawkman is considered to be one of the most skilled fighters in the DCU.

Errr? Once again are you serious? Hell Hawkman in the old days was shown to go lightspeed in space will toying a spaceship

Originally posted by -K-M-
and Hawkman has the tools to bring Wolverine down, I havn't even addressed how he has guns that can instantly shut people's minds down, creating air currents sucking the air out of an area, summoning animal totems, or Hawkman calling thousands of birds into a fight to do his bidding, etc. 😬

Hawkman has victories over some of the most powerful people in the DCU, and has put up a hell of a fight against the top elite characters. He has a great of variety then just a guy who flies

Unlikely, especially with Hawkman's speed and strength. He has even been shown to toe a fairly large spaceship with him.

I agree, hawkman could ko wolverine but its more like for wolverine to get in more hits since he is faster and more skilled then hawkman. When it comes to mind controlling or even messing with minds that seem to fail on wolverine.

I agree hawkman has some impressive feats, if it was any other street leveler then I would give hawkman the majority but they pitted him against a character that has one of the best healing factor in comics with adamantium claws that could cut through anything and is considered one of the best fighters in marvel u.

Originally posted by Bentley
So Hawkman solos.

No he doesn't. He's certainly a powerhouse compared to the others but he's not going to solo Gambit and Wolverine a majority of the time.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree, hawkman could ko wolverine but its more like for wolverine to get in more hits since he is faster and more skilled then hawkman. When it comes to mind controlling or even messing with minds that seem to fail on wolverine.

I agree hawkman has some impressive feats, if it was any other street leveler then I would give hawkman the majority but they pitted him against a character that has one of the best healing factor in comics with adamantium claws that could cut through anything and is considered one of the best fighters in marvel u.

He isn't faster then Hawkman that's the thing, and skillwise is debatable but I would most likely give the nod to Wolverine as he has shown more. Errr? that's not how his gun works, and the neuro gun has worked on Aquaman the very powerful telepath with no troubles whats so ever

and? Seriously I don't see how that's enough considering who Hawkman goes against. He has even made short work of the the very powerful reality manipulator Lionmane

Why would Hawkman have his gun?

Originally posted by -K-M-
He isn't faster then Hawkman that's the thing, and skillwise is debatable but I would most likely give the nod to Wolverine as he has shown more. Errr? that's not how his gun works, and the neuro gun has worked on Aquaman the very powerful telepath with no troubles whats so ever

and? Seriously I don't see how that's enough considering who Hawkman goes against. He has even made short work of the the very powerful reality manipulator Lionmane

So are you implying that hawk man is faster then wolverine, not including flight.

Originally posted by Mindset
How is BL stronger than Gambit, for the people who said he is?