Riddick versus Bruce Wayne

Started by Alpha Centauri5 pages

That doesn't make it any less stupid.

If you know he'd win, then why create the thread, because he's a current favourite of yours?

The point of these threads is to debate fights that make sense and have multiple possible outcomes. Not to love up your favourite character.

I've never seen you admit to being wrong in these threads, and it's not because you never are.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The Batsuit is far too great an advantage

What, like making Bruce Wayne fight an alien without the Batsuit ISN'T an advantage to Riddick?

Bruce Wayne Vs Matt Murdock would be an appropriate thread, because there isn't necessarily a clear winner.

Even if Bruce Wayne would win this, you still quite blatantly created it because you like Riddick and think he'd win. Why don't you just stop creating threads which you're so sure of, and actually go for ones that can carry a debate?

If you're so curious about other opinions, why not ask for them on the subject of a fight that has an outcome you're unsure of? Why ask for other opinions on a fight that you are definitely sure is one-sided, yelling "Horseshit!" at anyone opposing it?

Defies sense.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That doesn't make it any less stupid.

If you know he'd win, then why create the thread, because he's a current favourite of yours?

The point of these threads is to debate fights that make sense and have multiple possible outcomes. Not to love up your favourite character.

I've never seen you admit to being wrong in these threads, and it's not because you never are.

-AC

IMO he'd win, I was curious as to what others thought. Now that it has been established that Riddick would win, we can discuss scenarios where Wayne has a chance. It's not rocket science, it's actually quite simple.

"Multiple possible outcomes"...I agree, I also agree with "Multiple possible scenarios."

Read the Han Solo versus Captain Kirk thread, I was proven wrong by Robtard and I openly admitted it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
IMO he'd win, I was curious as to what others thought. Now that it has been established that Riddick would win, we can discuss scenarios where Wayne has a chance. It's not rocket science, it's actually quite simple.

"Multiple possible outcomes"...I agree, I also agree with "Multiple possible scenarios."

Read the Han Solo versus Captain Kirk thread, I was proven wrong by Robtard and I openly admitted it.

Such a flimsy, and false, excuse.

"I'm curious as to what others think.", why? Whenever someone challenges you, you call bullshit and start saying "How about we change this, that and this, then?". The point of these threads is to debate an outcome because we aren't sure of who'd win.

Not create a biased thread because you like someone.

What would be achieved by discussing scenarios where Wayne has a chance? You favour Riddick, so people are gonna favour Wayne. Your threads are such an unplanned shambles, they really are. You make them pointless.

You create such biased or impossible/illogical threads, and then try to make the biased unbiased, or the illogical logical.

Examples; Skywalker Vs Neo.

Despite admitting that it was an illogical fight because of many factors, after it was proven to you, you then spent the next 10 pages trying to come up with ways to make it work, when you should have just accepted that they don't work together and moved on.

Why not just accept that you have a reasonably poor opinion of what makes good Vs threads, and not create one until you can be sure that it's worth debating? It's not a coincidence that almost every time you make one, you get the same response.

-AC

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I made the thread because I am interested in other's opinions. If you don't like it or don't approve, GTFO, simple as that.

Impediment didn't "jump in", he merely commented on another's BS post.

So what if I am convinced Riddick will win? Who cares? This is why I am open to any suggestions on changing the conditions of the fight, but NO, whiners like you would rather flap their gums about "spite" and whatever mumbo jumbo is rolling about in your head.

I can see RJ point here...besides some of you are taking this like if it was real life or something.

But my opinion still stands....Bruce pwned Riddick like he did with the Predator.

Hay!

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Such a flimsy, and false, excuse.

"I'm curious as to what others think.", why? Whenever someone challenges you, you call bullshit and start saying "How about we change this, that and this, then?". The point of these threads is to debate an outcome because we aren't sure of who'd win.

Not create a biased thread because you like someone.

What would be achieved by discussing scenarios where Wayne has a chance? You favour Riddick, so people are gonna favour Wayne. Your threads are such an unplanned shambles, they really are. You make them pointless.

You create such biased or impossible/illogical threads, and then try to make the biased unbiased, or the illogical logical.

Examples; Skywalker Vs Neo.

Despite admitting that it was an illogical fight because of many factors, after it was proven to you, you then spent the next 10 pages trying to come up with ways to make it work, when you should have just accepted that they don't work together and moved on.

Why not just accept that you have a reasonably poor opinion of what makes good Vs threads, and not create one until you can be sure that it's worth debating? It's not a coincidence that almost every time you make one, you get the same response.

-AC

Same response from the same group of people, That's for sure. More coincidence?

I was not alone in the Skywalker versus Neo thread, you and a few others wreaked your fair share of havoc there as well, so please refrain from placing me in the spotlight. That thread was doomed because the thread starter was not clear of the conditions in the opening post, and, when it was realized, it was too late.

If a thread is made and there is a clear winner, should the thread be closed? Or should new scenarios be presented to present the possibility of your coveted "Multiple possible outcomes?"

Face it, with all the movie characters out there, it's hard to find two that are on even ground. But I'll tell you what, you go and create a few versus threads, show us what a good versus thread is, THEN you can criticize others. You seem to know all there is to know about versus threads, what it takes to make a good one, so please, dazzle us.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
I can see RJ point here...besides some of you are taking this like if it was real life or something.

But my opinion still stands....Bruce pwned Riddick like he did with the Predator.

Hay!

I know right? haermm

Wait, Bruce Predator huh? 😕 This must be a comic thing.....

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I know right? haermm

Wait, Bruce Predator huh? 😕 This must be a comic thing.....

Maybe...😖hifty:

Yeah, Batman took on Predator in comics and fan films.

Bats won.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Same response from the same group of people, That's for sure. More coincidence?

I was not alone in the Skywalker versus Neo thread, you and a few others wreaked your fair share of havoc there as well, so please refrain from placing me in the spotlight. That thread was doomed because the thread starter was not clear of the conditions in the opening post, and, when it was realized, it was too late.

If a thread is made and there is a clear winner, should the thread be closed? Or should new scenarios be presented to present the possibility of your coveted "Multiple possible outcomes?"

If it's actually so biased or one-sided that creating other scenarios results in boosting or handicapping, then yes, it should be closed. Because then it stops being a fight.

It's like saying Galactus Vs Hulk, but Galactus is just a really big man, he doesn't have his whole powers. There's literally no point.

If it's say, Daredevil Vs Batman, you can come up with various scenarios. If a thread is so unworkable, like Skywalker/Neo, that you have to start handicapping people, then it should be closed.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Face it, with all the movie characters out there, it's hard to find two that are on even ground. But I'll tell you what, you go and create a few versus threads, show us what a good versus thread is, THEN you can criticize others. You seem to know all there is to know about versus threads, what it takes to make a good one, so please, dazzle us.

It's not about how much I know, it's about how much you don't.

It's no secret; make something that isn't massively unbiased, and if it is, don't handicap or boost the combatants to make it interesting. There's no science involved, it's just simple thinking first, typing later.

You evidently do not do this.

Nobody is taking this any more serious than anyone else. My issue is with what threads are created and allowed, not the subjects within. It's all in fun, but if the thread consists more of debating over rules because the thread starter was too dumb to make one that works, then obviously there's a problem.

For example:

Batman Vs Daredevil in a warehouse or abandoned city. Both are relatively similar characters. Daredevil has a power unique to him, and Batman has abilities unique to him, but neither are so extreme that the other one would be incapable of countering it. Daredevil nor Batman need to be gimped or boosted.

You create threads like Riddick Vs Bruce Wayne, and then moan that the Batsuit is too much of an advantage. Like making Bruce Wayne fight an alien with night vision, in a darkened room, isn't an advantage to Riddick.

In spite of all this, you won't admit that what I'm saying is right, and yet...will have the audacity to claim you admit it when wrong. You seem to create these threads with the purpose of "Prove me wrong.", rather than "Let's discuss what we think would happen.". That's my issue with what you do.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Why not just accept that you have a reasonably poor opinion of what makes good Vs threads, and not create one until you can be sure that it's worth debating? It's not a coincidence that almost every time you make one, you get the same response.

Guide to Good Vs Topic (from the top of my head)

- People are readily familiar with the characters

- Characters have several movie feats (e.g Not Colossus)

- Characters are interestingly matched (I think the most important aspect, for me I find Wolverine vs Predator a good fight. )

- Characters are more or less evenly matched

- Possible victories for both opponents / No clear winner

- Interesting or logical points can be brought up for or against a character

- Induces differing opinion from members (50-50 is always nice, you need people to back you up sometimes 😛).

- Characters can win by different ways (not always the case, but it makes part of a great thread me thinks)

Probably something else others can add. Just my opinion btw (the above), but I think generally people will agree with it (hopefully).

Very funny/entertaining thread for all the wrong reasons.

BTW : Riddick turns Wayne into ground beef.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
They are fighting in a semilit environment.

Even in a semi-lit environment, Riddick stomps.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

If it's actually so biased or one-sided that creating other scenarios results in boosting or handicapping, then yes, it should be closed. Because then it stops being a fight.

It's like saying Galactus Vs Hulk, but Galactus is just a really big man, he doesn't have his whole powers. There's literally no point.

If it's say, Daredevil Vs Batman, you can come up with various scenarios. If a thread is so unworkable, like Skywalker/Neo, that you have to start handicapping people, then it should be closed.

It's not about how much I know, it's about how much you don't.

It's no secret; make something that isn't massively unbiased, and if it is, don't handicap or boost the combatants to make it interesting. There's no science involved, it's just simple thinking first, typing later.

You evidently do not do this.

Nobody is taking this any more serious than anyone else. My issue is with what threads are created and allowed, not the subjects within. It's all in fun, but if the thread consists more of debating over rules because the thread starter was too dumb to make one that works, then obviously there's a problem.

For example:

Batman Vs Daredevil in a warehouse or abandoned city. Both are relatively similar characters. Daredevil has a power unique to him, and Batman has abilities unique to him, but neither are so extreme that the other one would be incapable of countering it. Daredevil nor Batman need to be gimped or boosted.

You create threads like Riddick Vs Bruce Wayne, and then moan that the Batsuit is too much of an advantage. Like making Bruce Wayne fight an alien with night vision, in a darkened room, isn't an advantage to Riddick.

In spite of all this, you won't admit that what I'm saying is right, and yet...will have the audacity to claim you admit it when wrong. You seem to create these threads with the purpose of "Prove me wrong.", rather than "Let's discuss what we think would happen.". That's my issue with what you do.

-AC [/B]

Dude, whatever. Look at all the energy you are expending here, do you really think you are gonna change the world or save the whales with your tendency to rant and ***** and moan when you see/read/witness something you don't like?

If you see a thread you don't like, why the drama? Why not just say "Oh **** that thread, dude doesn't know what he is talking about?" Why the constant need to flex your might and create a ruckus? Oh yeah, I know, it's irritating. Lemmee ask you this: If you see a patch of poison ivy, and you know that by sticking your hand in it you will be irritated, would you still stick your hand in it? Or would you avoid and ignore it?

And yes, the Batsuit is too much of an advantage, any moron can see this. Unless Wayne has ONLY the Batsuit, with NO weapons, then it becomes less of an advantage.

And so what if I start these threads with a favorite in mind, with a "prove me wrong" outlook? If I cannot be proven wrong under a certain set of conditions, then why not change things around, even the playing field a bit, instead of wasting time crying like a little girl?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude, whatever. Look at all the energy you are expending here, do you really think you are gonna change the world or save the whales with your tendency to rant and ***** and moan when you see/read/witness something you don't like?

I'm not expending any energy or looking to change the world, but it appears I hit a nerve.

I brought it up because your ability to create shit threads and, as a result, pages of drama (Even before I came here), is great. YOU are the one with the ability to change anything and start avoiding this, so I'm giving you neutral input.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If you see a thread you don't like, why the drama? Why not just say "Oh **** that thread, dude doesn't know what he is talking about?" Why the constant need to flex your might and create a ruckus? Oh yeah, I know, it's irritating. Lemmee ask you this: If you see a patch of poison ivy, and you know that by sticking your hand in it you will be irritated, would you still stick your hand in it? Or would you avoid and ignore it?

Today was the first time I posted here and even then you had people telling you the same, so why try to imply this is all some AC instigated drama? It's not, you know it's not.

Secondly, your analogy skill isn't great either. For every thread of yours like this that I've commented in, which is about three, there are many more threads I've avoided, so your point fails.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And yes, the Batsuit is too much of an advantage, any moron can see this. Unless Wayne has ONLY the Batsuit, with NO weapons, then it becomes less of an advantage.

Then put Riddick in a room with regular light.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And so what if I start these threads with a favorite in mind, with a "prove me wrong" outlook? If I cannot be proven wrong under a certain set of conditions, then why not change things around, even the playing field a bit, instead of wasting time crying like a little girl?

Because why should we? "I believe this extremely biased match is so certain, it's a stomp, it's easy. You all have to prove me wrong.", why? Why not just not make the thread? You obviously enjoy and want the answer you've decided on, you're fixed in your choice, why make the thread? Don't give me the bs of "I'm not beyond swaying.", you are. You have been ever since you made this thread. Stop using that as a disguise.

Nobody's crying like a little girl besides you being incapable of handling critique on your shit threads.

You're asking me why not change things around, I already told you:

"If it's actually so biased or one-sided that creating other scenarios results in boosting or handicapping, then yes, it should be closed. Because then it stops being a fight.

It's like saying Galactus Vs Hulk, but Galactus is just a really big man, he doesn't have his whole powers. There's literally no point.

If it's say, Daredevil Vs Batman, you can come up with various scenarios. If a thread is so unworkable, like Skywalker/Neo, that you have to start handicapping people, then it should be closed.".

-AC

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude, whatever. Look at all the energy you are expending here, do you really think you are gonna change the world or save the whales with your tendency to rant and ***** and moan when you see/read/witness something you don't like?

If you see a thread you don't like, why the drama? Why not just say "Oh **** that thread, dude doesn't know what he is talking about?" Why the constant need to flex your might and create a ruckus? Oh yeah, I know, it's irritating. Lemmee ask you this: If you see a patch of poison ivy, and you know that by sticking your hand in it you will be irritated, would you still stick your hand in it? Or would you avoid and ignore it?

And yes, the Batsuit is too much of an advantage, any moron can see this. Unless Wayne has ONLY the Batsuit, with NO weapons, then it becomes less of an advantage.

And so what if I start these threads with a favorite in mind, with a "prove me wrong" outlook? If I cannot be proven wrong under a certain set of conditions, then why not change things around, even the playing field a bit, instead of wasting time crying like a little girl?

Yeah the Batsuit is a big plus for Bruce. Still a better fight....utility belt and stuff.

I would have to say Riddick. Both guys are hot though, I'd love to see that fight. Yum

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

I'm not expending any energy or looking to change the world, but it appears I hit a nerve.

I brought it up because your ability to create shit threads and, as a result, pages of drama (Even before I came here), is great. YOU are the one with the ability to change anything and start avoiding this, so I'm giving you neutral input.

Today was the first time I posted here and even then you had people telling you the same, so why try to imply this is all some AC instigated drama? It's not, you know it's not.

Secondly, your analogy skill isn't great either. For every thread of yours like this that I've commented in, which is about three, there are many more threads I've avoided, so your point fails.

Then put Riddick in a room with regular light.

Because why should we? "I believe this extremely biased match is so certain, it's a stomp, it's easy. You all have to prove me wrong.", why? Why not just not make the thread? You obviously enjoy and want the answer you've decided on, you're fixed in your choice, why make the thread? Don't give me the bs of "I'm not beyond swaying.", you are. You have been ever since you made this thread. Stop using that as a disguise.

Nobody's crying like a little girl besides you being incapable of handling critique on your shit threads.

You're asking me why not change things around, I already told you:

"If it's actually so biased or one-sided that creating other scenarios results in boosting or handicapping, then yes, it should be closed. Because then it stops being a fight.

It's like saying Galactus Vs Hulk, but Galactus is just a really big man, he doesn't have his whole powers. There's literally no point.

If it's say, Daredevil Vs Batman, you can come up with various scenarios. If a thread is so unworkable, like Skywalker/Neo, that you have to start handicapping people, then it should be closed.".

-AC [/B]

.............I'm sorry, what?

Riddik wins...

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Yeah the Batsuit is a big plus for Bruce. Still a better fight....utility belt and stuff.
No, just the suit, no utility belt with Batarangs. Riddick with his two blades, Batman in the Batsuit with only his gauntlet blades as weapons. The Batsuit has night vision, so I guess it can be allowed to negate Riddick's night vision.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
.............I'm sorry, what?

See, if you're going to reply, why not reply to the post?

If you're going to reply with nothing but that, why not just not reply?

-AC

And since Wayne has the Batsuit, let's arm Riddick with two of the knives he killed the Lord Marshall with.

Not sure if they can slice through the Batsuit, but the knife did pierce Necromonger armor.