DC vs Marvel - Powerhouses

Started by fangirl1017 pages

Originally posted by carver9
What fallacies, everything that I said was the truth. You do know who sphinx is right, if you dont, I'll tell you, he basically soloed a fed galactus and stalemated him. Black bolt beat this same being.
And? Speed ball and Nova also hurt and beat the same being. I'm talking kid nova. Next.

Originally posted by fangirl101
And? Speed ball and Nova also hurt and beat the same being. I'm talking kid nova. Next.

Scans.

Originally posted by carver9
Scans.

The New Warriors. So many times.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I need to see Surfer's board asborbing a high end magical being. Let's try that first. Not a noob super hero.

This is not about being obscure or not. The point of that scan was to show SS absorbing the nega bands which have good matter/energy manipulation capabilities. Being a high end magical being counts for shit if u cant resist such forms of transmutation. Some proof that Marvel can resist the attack needs to be provided period.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
This is not about being obscure or not. The point of that scan was to show SS absorbing the nega bands which have good matter/energy manipulation capabilities. Being a high end magical being counts for shit if u cant resist such forms of transmutation. Some proof that Marvel can resist the attack needs to be provided period.

No. The proof is if Surfer has absorbed any actual high tiers in the board. Let's try that first. And then any high tier magical beings. Enchantments have a way of preventing those types of things.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. The proof is if Surfer has absorbed any actual high tiers in the board. Let's try that first. And then any high tier magical beings. Enchantments have a way of preventing those types of things.

BIG NO!. YOu saying "enchantments have ways of preventing those type of things" counts for shit and proves absolutely nothin. When did we start assuming that characters have resistance to something because of their tier ranking? A character may be a high tier but be lower in a particular area than another character who might be below him. In this case im asking for some examples of CMs resistance to such molecular manip. . Im still waiting.

Why is BB being regarded as such a weak link in this fight? Aren't things like Antimatter blasts pretty tough for most DC characters to resist/counter?

Originally posted by Placidity
[b]DC Powerhouses

1. Captain Atom
2. Captain Marvel
3. Martian Manhunter
4. Superman

Marvel Powerhouses

1. Silver Surfer
2. Beta Ray Bill
3. Blackagar Boltagon
4. Thor (Classic)

- Battle Arena: Colosseum

- No BFR

- No CIS

- No Black holes or similar BS

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Scenario 1: Pure strength brawling/punch on (includes Super speed)

Scenario 2: All abilities allowed (Still no BFR or Black holes or similar BS)

Scenario 3: Rank the team members in terms of overall power (I've already listed my take on it). [/B]


Wait when you say "No Black holes or similar BS" are you limiting the creation of black holes, or are you limiting Surfer's power output? Also, are things like T-Vo and he Godblast also barred, or is Surfer the only one being handicapped?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Why is BB being regarded as such a weak link in this fight? Aren't things like Antimatter blasts pretty tough for most DC characters to resist/counter?

Thats why I said that black bolt is arguably one of the most powerful beings in this match. Im looking for some of his feats concerning his powers now that should shut a lot of people up in here.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait when you say "No Black holes or similar BS" are you limiting the creation of black holes, or are you limiting Surfer's power output? And by the same token, are things like T-Vo and he Godblast also barred, or is Surfer the only one being handicapped?

Im thinking that he is trying to handicapp black bolt since he can create black holes.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Why is BB being regarded as such a weak link in this fight? Aren't things like Antimatter blasts pretty tough for most DC characters to resist/counter?

antimatter in Marvel doesn't carry the same potency. same name. Definitely not the same effect.

Originally posted by fangirl101
antimatter in Marvel doesn't carry the same potency. same name. Definitely not the same effect.

Antimatter is Antimatter. You can't penalize Marvel for giving their characters a greater resistance to it than DC characters anymore than you can penalize DC for giving their characters super speed.

Otherwise we might as well start trying to wrestle with questions as to whether or not Black Holes/Stars/Nova's are more potent in which company...

Team Marvel wins both scenarios.

I'm too lazy to do rankings.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Antimatter is Antimatter. You can't penalize Marvel for giving their characters a greater resistance to it than DC characters anymore than you can penalize DC for giving their characters super speed.

Um no. Anti-Matter in DCU is the absolute destructive force of reality destruction. There wasn't any anti matter wave in marvel. If that is the case, then zatanna is 100 times more powerful than Dr. Strange and Wonder Woman is stronger than Thor since Magic is more potent in DC.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Um no. Anti-Matter in DCU is the absolute destructive force of reality destruction. There wasn't any anti matter wave in marvel. If that is the case, then zatanna is 100 times more powerful than Dr. Strange and Wonder Woman is stronger than Thor since Magic is more potent in DC.

It's an absolute force of destruction because DC hasn't saw fit to give it's characters the same resistance to it that Marvel has with it's characters. By the same token, Marvel hasn't saw fit to equip all of it's top tiers with uber levels of strength and speed like DC has, but should we assume that the greater strength/speed possessed by the majority of DC characters doesn't count since it's portrayed differently in Marvel? Or maybe their black holes are stronger or their stars/super nova's more intense...

*Edit*
And unless I'm mistaken Antimatter isn't the "Absolute force of destruction" in DC, Entropy is.

Black bolt actually speed blitzing someone and then disrupting his energy and power which defeats this powerful kree.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/Inhumans_TGR_001_55.jpg

Black bolt words would have destroyed the planet but he talk to the earth and cause volcanoes to shake etc....

http://img178.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bb1sr9.jpg

Control minds

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Inhumans-v1-001-03.jpg

Black bolt voice ripping a hole in reality.
http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newavengersilluminati00br2.jpg
http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newavengersilluminati00ol6.jpg

Just pure destruction.
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blackboltfeat16gt.gif

One of the most destructive blast in marvel.
http://img171.exs.cx/img171/9885/vssphinx31pn.jpg

Creating black holes.
http://img125.exs.cx/img125/8040/holes6lm.jpg

Matter manipulate
http://img125.exs.cx/img125/8040/holes6lm.jpg

Control the atmosphere

http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atmo1vr0km.jpg

So back to topic, Team DC wins.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So back to topic, Team DC wins.

IF only u cud prove that. 🙁

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So back to topic, Team DC wins.
Agreed team Dc wins.

Team Marvel wins this and I don't think it's very close. Black bolt screams to start the match whiich probably kills at least one DC member or puts them on the defensive long enough for surfer to Pwn superman very quickly and then I see this as a 2 v 4 from that point on.