Current Thor, Beta Ray Bill, and Odin Vs Thanos, Classic Juggernaut and Cyttorak

Beings more powerful than Odin have invoked Cyttoraks power. Doesn't make sense for them to use power that is lesser than theirs, does it?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
How so? I know Cyttorak ddoesn't have many feats in the MU history but what I do is compare him to Cain himself. If Thor has trouble beating Cain then shouldn't Odin have some trouble putting a stronger version of Cain down?

Odin would dismantle Cain with a thought.

Odin's hearld (Thor)>Juggernaut

With Odin's feat's backing him up, why wouldn't he be greater than Cyttorak?

Gah. I'm sorry.

It's Cytorrak. Not Cyttorak.

For serious. 😛

Originally posted by Enyalus
Gah. I'm sorry.

It's Cytorrak. Not Cyttorak.

For serious. 😛

No its Cyttorak.

Originally posted by Priest
Thor doesn't have a problem putting down The Juggernaut since he was able to remove Cyttorak enhancement.

Odin would dismantle Cain with a thought.

Odin's hearld (Thor)>Juggernaut

With Odin's feat's backing him up, why wouldn't he be greater than Cyttorak?

Cain has a 2 KO over him while Thor only has BFRs one is after a group of other heroes jumped in and saved Thor from death while the other one was done in an issue to please Thor fans who demanded a rematch.

Originally posted by Priest
Thor doesn't have a problem putting down The Juggernaut since he was able to remove Cyttorak enhancement.

Odin would dismantle Cain with a thought.

Odin's hearld (Thor)>Juggernaut

With Odin's feat's backing him up, why wouldn't he be greater than Cyttorak?

This ABC logic fails miserably.

Thor lacks the ability to remove Cyttoraks enchantment. Stronger mystics than him have tried and failed.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
This ABC logic fails miserably.

Thor lacks the ability to remove Cyttoraks enchantment. Stronger mystics than him have tried and failed.

he removed the Forcefield not the enchantment. You don't possible believe that he removed all of Cyttorak's blessing from him do you?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
he removed the Forcefield not the enchantment. You don't possible believe that he removed all of Cyttorak's blessing from him do you?

Originally posted by Priest
Thor removed the enhancement on panel 😐

He did no such thing. He removed his forcefield which, in that issue atleast, the writer depicted as being the source of the Juggernauts invulnerability.

Failed again.

Still he did not take away his enchantment, only his FF. If Cyttorak is there himself then what is stopping Cy for overriding Thor's cancellation of his FF? Hell that whole issue was written bad on Cain's part. They tied his invulnerability to his FF.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
He did no such thing. He removed his forcefield which, in that issue atleast, the writer depicted as being the source of the Juggernauts invulnerability.

Failed again.

Are u following?
Does it need to be discussed further?

That still isn't correct. If he did that then wouldn't that make Cain a regular human? Thor just thinks he took all of his power.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
That still isn't correct. If he did that then wouldn't that make Cain a regular human? Thor just thinks he took all of his power.

Cain weakened himself in the whole WWH and before that in their first fight. Cain was weak for a long while before that.

That Cain and the Cain that fought Thor are not the same for the sole fact that WWH depowered Cain was bleeding in that fight and in many fights before that like when the Wrecking Crew wrecked him. Thor did not even bruise him or draw an ounce of blood. Now I think we all know that the Wrecking Crew does not hit harder than Thor's fists.

Originally posted by Priest
Sure Thor mentions that the forcefeild is no longer a issue. BUT Thor does say that he does negate ALL of Juggernaut's "Mystical Energy"
http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=22965_Thor_1991_429_12_122_86lo.jpg

Are u following?
Does it need to be discussed further?

Failed again. Put your helmet on before you hurt yourself.

If he negated all his mystical energy he would've turned back into Cain plain and simple.

The first hit should've killed Cain if he took all of his energy.

It would have.

Written properly Thor would lack the ability to do this. If Classic Strange admitted he couldn't do it, Thor surely couldn't.

Why do people assume that Cytorrak is above Odin? Cytorrak is a banished god; a skyfather, if anything Odin appears to have more power.

Originally posted by Allankles
Why do people assume that Cytorrak is above Odin? Cytorrak is a banished god; a skyfather, if anything Odin appears to have more power.

Shuma-Gorath was also banished. Abraxas was banished. Just because you are banished doesn't make you weak. It usually says that you are too strong to be able to walk this plane freely so go here and never return because our lives would be at stake.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Shuma-Gorath was also banished. Abraxas was banished. Just because you are banished doesn't make you weak. It usually says that you are too strong to be able to walk this plane freely so go here and never return because our lives would be at stake.

Actually Cytorrak was banished from Earth by unknown means and he can get back but his plans in that regard get foiled, he also existed on Earth and had other gods around him with their worshippers, so there's nothing to suggest he'd be too powerful to handle, he's no more than most other gods.

I've tried to get extra info on him and he continues to appear as a relatively powerful god; a lower to mid tier skyfather nothing more. He has the same mother as marvel Thor, so I agree with those people who can see Thor weakening Juggies' mysticsm.

Nothing anywhere suggests he is more powerful than Odin, in fact he appears weaker given his history.