Originally posted by Darth Martin
Well after rethinking I must say, Borg Drones might be ****ed here. Xeno drones are a heck of alot faster here and wwaaayyy more agile. I don't see the Borg stopping the Xeno Drones from impaling them with their tales. And I just don't see Borg adapting to acidic blood.I like the Xenomorphs here in a stomp.
Borg are extremely durable, being cyborgs, so they're not nessarily going down from claws and tail attacks, easily at least. Their nanites are extremely advanced, so it's possible they're made of acid resistant alloy, and/or they could adapt, as this is what the Borg do; it's their main strength and the reason why they've conquered thousands of worlds.
If the Borg where unable to adapt and the Xenos kept killing their forces, they'd just destroy the ship and cut their loses. Either way, the Borg can't lose here.
Originally posted by Robtard
Borg are extremely durable, being cyborgs, so they're not nessarily going down from claws and tail attacks, easily at least. Their nanites are extremely advanced, so it's possible they're made of acid resistant alloy, and/or they could adapt, as this is what the Borg do; it's their main strength and the reason why they've conquered thousands of worlds.If the Borg where unable to adapt and the Xenos kept killing their forces, they'd just destroy the ship and cut their loses. Either way, the Borg can't lose here.
Originally posted by RobtardI wouldn't say there that durable. Sure a punch from the stongest human alive wouldn't even floor them but they can be cut easily as seen in First Contact thanks Worf's Meth'Leth.
Borg are extremely durable, being cyborgs, so they're not nessarily going down from claws and tail attacks, easily at least. Their nanites are extremely advanced, so it's possible they're made of acid resistant alloy, and/or they could adapt, as this is what the Borg do; it's their main strength and the reason why they've conquered thousands of worlds.If the Borg where unable to adapt and the Xenos kept killing their forces, they'd just destroy the ship and cut their loses. Either way, the Borg can't lose here.
Originally posted by RobtardIt says in the link that the AvP ship could hold "hundreds" which is a vague number. If there's no PIS involved, the aliens are using this ship: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/index.php?main=avpfilms§ion=avppredatorship
How many Predators are on those ships? I only recall them traveling in small groups.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
It says in the link that the AvP ship could hold "hundreds" which is a vague number. If there's no PIS involved, the aliens are using this ship: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/index.php?main=avpfilms§ion=avppredatorship
Then they get ass-raped, as there's hundred of thousands of Drones on a cube. Many a Drone would die though, blades, spears and whatnot.
I'd also wager the cube could destroy one of those ships in a space-battle.
Originally posted by Impediment
I should have specified "corpse" in my opening post better. I meant "corpse-like" in that they are similar to the walking dead. I realize that even though the majority of the Borg drone is mechanical/nano make-up, the remaining organism that was assimilated is still living tissue.Could the Borg really adapt to molecular acid? I would imagine that this would make for an interesting catalyst.
Also, if the Borg could, in fact adapt to acid blood, who's to say that they could assimilate a Xeno and incorporate acid-proof hardware into the alien?
was just about to call you on that lol...
though i think it's possible that they could be impregnated, assuming the borg didn't figure out a way to destroy any embryo that got inside a borg... they think nothing of sacrificing their own drones if they've been corrupted...
not sure. i'm thinking the borg, though.
I'm a bit late on this, but the Borg, in my theory, are descendents of Vger (Voyager) from the first STar Trek movie. This is why the Borg only assimilate humanoids because they come from merger of Will Decker & the android LLia. Since that is the case, in my opinion and theory, the Borg can not assimilate Xenomorph acid blood unless they allow a Borg sentry to be impregnated and they go in and make DNA modifications in order to develop a new breed of sentries who have the acid blood. But remove this one factor and the xenomorphs are dead. they can't beat a borg with a force field.
Was it decided wether the Xenos could impregnate a Borg drone? And even if they did the Xenos may not be all that different form normal ones. They can't absorb there tech based enhancements into their DNA.
The Borg are much slower than Xenos. But in the end game the Borg can just nuke the part of the ship that's contaminated and purge the rest.
What if a facehugger got a BorgQueen? The hive shouldn't obey her and the BorgHiveMind shouldn't relay orders to a XenoBorgQueen anymore.
I give this to the Borg.
Well, if we can use the Voyager Species 8472, then we can make an assumption.
The reason the Borg could not assimilate them was due to the strong immune response from that species. Their immune system (macrophages...that's what thye looked like) fought off the nannites like champs. In the Xenomorphs case, they have a strong exoskeleton AND they have ultra-ultra-strong acid blood. The instant the nannites touched the blood, they would dissolve because they are so small. It would appear that the adaptability of the Borg is limited and that is a recurring theme throughout various Star Treke stories. They lose the creativity that sentience brings by assimilating their species and this was part of their weakness. This was why the derilict crew of Voyager could do in a day what the Borg could not due for what seemed like months: adapt their nanobots to the immune systems of Species 8472.
Considering that the Aliens have a far stronger defense against foreign objects (extreme acid blood), it becomes even more difficult for them to assimilate the Xenomorphs.
If I alter the thread conditions to simply be a fight on the floating starship filled win Xenos, then I say the Borg lose and they can only win by vaping the ship. They do not assimilate the Xenos. The Borg have shown us that their nannites are not adaptive enough to assimilate against every type of biology encountered.
HOWEVER...
We as humans with our current technologies have created H_0 levels of -30+ (superacids such Fluoroantimonic acid). So one could argue that the Borg would be aware of superacids and know how to adapt to them. Maybe..maybe not. I don't think the writers of Star Trek or the Alien series have extensive knowledge of chemistry.
Still, it's an easy victory for the Borg.
my thoughts...
Although the Brog are in part biological and mechanical, you could reason that a facehugger wasn't able to impregnate a Born drone. but since all Borg drones are modified (humanoid) species, they are modified to a more or lesser extend.
If there was a Borg drone with enough organic material / organs left, it should be possible for a facehugger to impregnate a Brog drone.
To my knowledge it is also not know how much organic matter a life form needs to have for a xenomorph egg/embryo to grow ..
As seen in Alien 3, a dog seems to work (or as per the special edition) a cow / ox will work fine too... okay, those are both complete, functional organic lifeforms, but still.
As far is I can tell, the xenomorph egg / embryo only needs the host for it's biologically distict properties to adapt more to the natural inviroment of said host, not to feed on it while growing to the chest-burster stage. (the xeno from Alien 3 is very (dog like) different then the xeno's from Alien or Alien 2.
Now this is where it get's scary, if a facehugger were to be able to get an egg / embryo inside a Born drone and it could gestate long enough to the chest-bursting stage, it would have adopted trades of it's Born drone host on a cellular or even DNA level, most likely incorporating the nanotech present in the Born drone, effectively becoming a Borg enhanced chest-burster going on to become a full grown Xeno with Borg tech fully integrated into it...
if a regular xeno wasn't super scary and deadly, imagine what a Brog/xeno hybrid would be!