Rune King Thor vs Dormammu

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
He had to sacrifice both eyes to gain the equal wisdom of odin however when odin hung himself he only went to the brink of death while thor travelled past that and I believe actually died while doing so and in turn gained more power then odin from the runes.

iirc thor sacrificed both eyes because the sacrifice had to be unique. since odin already sacrificed one eye, thor had to sacrifice both. or he could have sacrificed a leg or an arm as long as it was unique.

as for the hanging, yeah, i believe odin just almost died while thor did die and overcame death thus becoming more powerful.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Dormy is no joke, and written seriously according to his power/history set,
he's above RK Thor imo.

i'd disagree. he's on the level of mephisto and surtur and several others--he's lord of a splinter realm. his level does seem to fluctuate more than some though but he has been equated with odin as well.

But let's not bring up Eternity yall,
Dormy could never touch Eternity without PIS helping him out.

now THAT i couldn't agree with more. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
But let's not bring up Eternity yall,
Dormy could never touch Eternity without PIS helping him out.

Originally posted by King Kandy
He's done it many times though, in fact Eternity's second appearance was Dormy fighting him even. So Eternity was originally and always conceived as a Dormammu level character (and visa versa). It's not PIS, he was always considered that powerful.

many times? you've brought up the one time. the second time he tackled eternity in a spoof series with umar and the cosmic axis nonsense/pis. what other times are you talking about? and that first time was happening in an era where odin was equal to galactus. odin's own feats from that era were ludicrous.

Originally posted by leonidas
many times? you've brought up the one time. the second time he tackled eternity in a spoof series with umar and the cosmic axis nonsense/pis. what other times are you talking about? and that first time was happening in an era where odin was equal to galactus. odin's own feats from that era were ludicrous.

Dormy.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well okay maybe it was only two times. But it happened in both of their early history, showing they were conceived as near-equals. So it wasn't PIS.

aside from that one feat against eternity, what has he done that warrants putting him above odin? he was not able to defeat mephisto and needed help. it was alluded that he was equal to odin in their chess match. his realm was destroyed by that crazy computer virus demon (along with many of the other splinter realms) in the magik II limited series. he's had multiple defeats at the hands of strange. so . . . what feats does he have that make you think he's anywhere remotely close to eternity?

Originally posted by leonidas
aside from that one feat against eternity, what has he done that warrants putting him above odin?

Originally posted by leonidas
he was not able to defeat mephisto and needed help.

Originally posted by leonidas
it was alluded that he was equal to odin in their chess match.

Originally posted by leonidas
his realm was destroyed by that crazy computer virus demon (along with many of the other splinter realms) in the magik II limited series.

Originally posted by leonidas
he's had multiple defeats at the hands of strange.

Originally posted by leonidas
so . . . what feats does he have that make you think he's anywhere remotely close to eternity?

Losing to Classic Strange is not really a low feat. Dude was a serious beast of a mage. Not to mention that Dormammu is on par with the Vishanti.

The chess match just showed that conceptually speaking, they're pretty much equals in terms of how diametrically opposed they are. And if I sound like Allan right there, good.

I mean, when you think about nobility and order, Odin comes pretty quickly to mind. "Regal One" and all that. And when you think of evil and chaos...Dormammu isn't far away. "Dread One" and such. So of course they're the perfect beings to be chosen as the avatars of Lord Chaos and Master Order. Says nothing about their power levels.

And the stalemate they had in that game was basically intentional. Its the way the Cosmos itself wants. Odin understood that. And Dormammu seemed to understand that, too, from his comments about Thor's behavior in attempting to interfere.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Losing to Classic Strange is not really a low feat. Dude was a serious beast of a mage. Not to mention that Dormammu is on par with the Vishanti.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well he imprisoned the mindless ones who were said to be living destroyer armors. But really, the Eternity feat should be enough.

Pure PIS. Also it should be noted his power varies under different conditions.

Dormammu was outside his realm, and had recently resurrected. Whenever he reincorporates he's weak for a while.

That's by no means a bad showing. That beast easily killed thousands of magic-users, many who ruled their own realms. It's insane.

None that didn't have extenuating circumstances.

Oh, only the fact that he knocked him out for two months.

so . . . really nothing except that 40 year-old feat. with the exception of that eternity feat (which odin can nearly match) odin's showings are better on a consistent basis.

and eny--i get that it doesn't mean they were 'necessarily' egual in terms of power, but the allusion was pretty clear and it makes sense that each would choose an avatar close in relative power. 😬

You're saying Odin can also KO Eternity? I don't buy it.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Dormy.

Originally posted by King Kandy
You're saying Odin can also KO Eternity? I don't buy it.

certainly not currently. neither could dormmy. back in the time you're talking about odin defeated his dark side, infinity. and depending on how you interpret the retcon, that side of him was drawing power from the current version of infinity--the obverse of eternity. shaking the multiverse is a well known feat. being considered an equal to galactus himself.

fact is--dormmy has never reached that level (of battling eternity) again. and since he never has since, it's impossible and illogical to claim he's at that level--or really anywhere near it.

i still say the overwhelming amount of evidence points to his being on odin's level. if rkt>odin, i'd give thor the match. i'd call it even against odin himself.

Based on feats, Dormammu wins.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Based on feats, Dormammu wins.

the 40yr old eternity feat aside, which "featS" are you referring to?

Originally posted by leonidas
the 40yr old eternity feat aside, which "featS" are you referring to?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Losing to the Avengers and Loki in his own realm while amped by the Evil Eye? 😛

😂

pretty much. 😄

Bonafide cosmic flashlight is what it looked like...