WW3 Black Adam-Wonder Woman vs Fully Confident Gladiator-Blackbolt

Started by quanchi11231 pages

Originally posted by fangirl101
You stated your case with no proof. His flight speed has nothing to do with his fighting. And superman is faster than glads in flight. a flight from vega to earth at 25 mins would be over 500,000 times faster than light. Superman got to earth while there was still smoke from Lightray's body. safe to say he flew to earth faster than 25 minutes.
Supes was fighting while traveling. I dont even know what you are even saying anymore.

Your assumptions arent factual.

Glads is faster than WW and strong enough to destroy a planet with his fists. he wins.

Originally posted by fangirl101
actually you are the guy who is talking gibberish. What you didn't show was gladiator MOVING and throwing Multiple punches at super speed. There was a scan of him throwing punches while standing still. Then there was a scan of him bull rushing thor at an unquantifiable bullrush speed. I haven't seen any evasive or maneuvering action from him. let alone while throwing multiple punches. I've not seen glads maneuver like wondy at all. And not at her speeds. That is all. Unless you can post those types of feats, the debate is over.

Gladiator does not have to be moving from place to place and attacking to show combat speed. He was fighting only one opponent just like he will be doing here and hence there was no need. He showed that he can initiate multiple strikes at superspeeds though unquantified. The other scan of glads was quantifiable as it showed him using a hyper speed strike( which is above five times the speed of sound). I dont know where u are getting "her speeds" from because nothing( relevant scans) u showed was even remotely quantifable. This was never really a debate as ur "argument" of gladiator being unable to hit wonderwoman is to ridiculous to even be taken seriously. Its huge load of gibberish

Originally posted by quanchi112
Supes was fighting while traveling. I dont even know what you are even saying anymore.

Your assumptions arent factual.

Glads is faster than WW and strong enough to destroy a planet with his fists. he wins.


Wonder Woman is faster than Glads. And She's skilled enough to hurt Superman and Amazo. She wins. You see how easy that is.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Gladiator does not have to be moving from place to place and attacking to show combat speed. He was fighting only one opponent just like he will be doing here and hence there was no need. He showed that he can initiate multiple strikes at superspeeds though unquantified. The other scan of glads was quantifiable as it showed him using a hyper speed strike( which is above five times the speed of sound). I dont know where u are getting "her speeds" from because nothing( relevant scans) u showed was even remotely quantifable. This was never really a debate as ur "argument" of gladiator being unable to hit wonderwoman is to ridiculous to even be taken seriously. Its huge load of gibberish
and your insulting needs to stop. Now. The only reason I insult you is becuz you do it to me. Get a grip lame. If Wondy has the skills to deflect omnidirectional attacks with precision and gladiator cannot attack omnidirectional, what makes you think the he can get any hits in unidirectional? And If he manages to get past her bracers, he still has to hit her. And she's far more agile than he is. And if he can get a glancing blow, is he going to be able to hit as hard as he could a planet? something not moving and rigid. That cannot roll with the punch? And how does he stand up to punches himself? Colossus has given him a tuff time. Wondy hits much much harder and with more skill than Colossus. Wondy also has the advantage of amping her striking power with her lasso. How does he stand up to being hit with indestructible lariat metal?

Jesus, all this talk about Wonder Womans speed makes you wonder how she's ever been hit in a comic. Its dumb. She's fast, Glads is fast. Is Wonder Woman so much faster that even Gladiator wouldnt be able to strike her? So much faster that Gladiator would have no chance in a physical brawl? I dont think so and I really dont think anybody else on these forums believe it either.

Well except for one maybe.

Originally posted by tkitna
Jesus, all this talk about Wonder Womans speed makes you wonder how she's ever been hit in a comic. Its dumb. She's fast, Glads is fast. Is Wonder Woman so much faster that even Gladiator wouldnt be able to strike her? So much faster that Gladiator would have no chance in a physical brawl? I dont think so and I really dont think anybody else on these forums believe it either.

Well except for one maybe.


The same reason Hulk and Colossus hit Gladiator. Comics. This is a forum fight.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Wonder Woman is faster than Glads. And She's skilled enough to hurt Superman and Amazo. She wins. You see how easy that is.
When has she moved 100 times the speed of light? When has she destroyed a planet with her hands?

Supes dominated her physically. we have been over this. If she runs from glads she loses the fight due to self-bfr.

Originally posted by fangirl101
and your insulting needs to stop. Now. The only reason I insult you is becuz you do it to me. Get a grip lame. If Wondy has the skills to deflect omnidirectional attacks with precision and gladiator cannot attack omnidirectional, what makes you think the he can get any hits in unidirectional? And If he manages to get past her bracers, he still has to hit her. And she's far more agile than he is. And if he can get a glancing blow, is he going to be able to hit as hard as he could a planet? something not moving and rigid. That cannot roll with the punch? And how does he stand up to punches himself? Colossus has given him a tuff time. Wondy hits much much harder and with more skill than Colossus. Wondy also has the advantage of amping her striking power with her lasso. How does he stand up to being hit with indestructible lariat metal?

What insulting? U r the one who first came in with the harsh comments threatening to report me calling me biased and some other nonsense. What a Hypocrite. I have only referred to the foolishness of ur arguments which are once again are evident in this above post. What daft logic. Wondy is continuously hit by attacks far far slower than those shattered god pieces she was deflecting. Further she has never shown such level speed in direct physical combat. How u manage to attempt to use it as a premise for gladiator not hitting her is beyond reason. Then ur next line is to use low feats like his fights against collosus. Just ridiculous. Gladiator is consistently portrayed as being comparable to the likes of thor and hulk physically able to take shots from njolnir and keep on coming but u wud prefer to use one of his lowest feats to judge him. More of the same nonsense. This is just hilarious 😂

Originally posted by tkitna
Jesus, all this talk about Wonder Womans speed makes you wonder how she's ever been hit in a comic. Its dumb. She's fast, Glads is fast. Is Wonder Woman so much faster that even Gladiator wouldnt be able to strike her? So much faster that Gladiator would have no chance in a physical brawl? I dont think so and I really dont think anybody else on these forums believe it either.

Well except for one maybe.

No serious minded person does.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When has she moved 100 times the speed of light? When has she destroyed a planet with her hands?

Supes dominated her physically. we have been over this. If she runs from glads she loses the fight due to self-bfr.

When has Glads fought at 100 times the speed of light. Get it thru your head. Travel speed is not Fighting Speed. Superman Sun amped Dominated someone who was holding back. Glads is also inferior to Superman. Period. We haven't been over anything. Becuz Glads had a hard time with canon ball, and colossus and Thor, and Hulk. All Slow. And three of them have base strength far under Diana's. Only thor starts out as strong or stronger. So no. we haven't been over anything.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
What insulting? U r the one who first came in with the harsh comments threatening to report me calling me biased and some other nonsense. What a Hypocrite. I have only referred to the foolishness of ur arguments which are once again are evident in this above post. What daft logic. Wondy is continuously hit by attacks far far slower than those shattered god pieces she was deflecting. Further she has never shown such level speed in direct physical combat. How u manage to attempt to use it as a premise for gladiator not hitting her is beyond reason. Then ur next line is to use low feats like his fights against collosus. Just ridiculous. Gladiator is consistently portrayed as being comparable to the likes of thor and hulk physically able to take shots from njolnir and keep on coming but u wud prefer to use one of his lowest feats to judge him. More of the same nonsense. This is just hilarious 😂
And Wondy is constantly being compared to the Likes of Superman and Captain Marvel. Is there a point? Weren't you one of the one's who was daft enough to say that Wondy couldn't attack at Superspeeds. That she couldn't blitz? now your saying she can't fight at superspeeds in direct physical confrontations? what's that all about? Her fight with superman was less than two minutes? So I suppose they did that at a waltzes pace? WTF.

Originally posted by fangirl101
What does that have to do with superman flying faster than Gladiator? And If Glads had unlimted strength he wouldn't have trouble with the likes of colossus or Thor. And since you think Glads is stronger than Superman and wonder Woman by far, what is the upper limit of thier strength. what are the heaviest things that they've lifted? How hard do they punch? becuz it makes no sense to argue with you about glads when you think he's the right hand of god with his unlimted cosmic galactus level strength. Let's see what you know about wondy and superman. No. what falls under the theory you are talking about is a character with unlimted strength that gets pwned. that really doesn't have unlimted strength if he has trouble fighting anyone.
Who helped superman move the earth or the moon?? You keep bring up Thor, hulk and colossus. OK, lets bring those fights here.. Against hulk, when gladiator tried to fly hulk into outer space.. skip to when he flew supreme ( who is 50 million times faster than hulk ) into outer space before he could react.. WHAT GIVES?? of course!! the WRITER wanted hulk to win.. On KMC hulk is in the sun.... Thor... WOW!! a hero in his OWN book... I wonder who the writer will LET WIN??? Gladiator blitzed Thor in HIS OWN BOOK AND KO-ED Thor, WOULD HAVE KILLED HIM ON KMC. PS. Superman KO-ED Thor and could barely stand afterwards, plus got flattened by ironmans rays.... Colossus... ha ha ha ha.. need i even answer this?? If it took superman and 2 others to move a MOON?? And gladiator moves PLANETS on his own?? guess who is stronger.. Show me where the CREATOR OR WRITER STATES THAT SUPERMAN MOVES AT ANYWHERE NEAR 100 TIMES LIGHTSPEED... And that not gladiators top speed.

Originally posted by finalflash
Who helped superman move the earth or the moon?? You keep bring up Thor, hulk and colossus. OK, lets bring those fights here.. Against hulk, when gladiator tried to fly hulk into outer space.. skip to when he flew supreme ( who is 50 million times faster than hulk ) into outer space before he could react.. WHAT GIVES?? of course!! the WRITER wanted hulk to win.. On KMC hulk is in the sun.... Thor... WOW!! a hero in his OWN book... I wonder who the writer will LET WIN??? Gladiator blitzed Thor in HIS OWN BOOK AND KO-ED Thor, WOULD HAVE KILLED HIM ON KMC. PS. Superman KO-ED Thor and could barely stand afterwards, plus got flattened by ironmans rays.... Colossus... ha ha ha ha.. need i even answer this?? If it took superman and 2 others to move a MOON?? And gladiator moves PLANETS on his own?? guess who is stronger.. Show me where the CREATOR OR WRITER STATES THAT SUPERMAN MOVES AT ANYWHERE NEAR 100 TIMES LIGHTSPEED... And that not gladiators top speed.

Are you ok? Do you need help with your problem? Superman wasn't moving the earth. read the god damned comic. He and others were keeping it's orbit. Do you know how much power that takes? let me give you a hint. The entire solar system's planets, moons, asteroids, and comets all keep each other in orbit. So they were cranking out the force of a star system just to keep earth in orbit. It takes considerably less energy to just yank a planet quickly out of its orbit. once it's yanked, then it's easily moved. Bet you didnt' know that. now you do.

Wonder woman broke out of one of quasar's constructs in the JLA avengers book. Did you see how powerful his constructs are/ they've stood up to Galactu's beams and to multiple heroes trying to break free. so there you go. Is Glads stronger than her?

Oh and Superman flew from Vega to Earth. At least 500,000 yes that's 500 THOUSAND times faster than light. And that is if he took a 30 minute trip.

As far as Gladiator moving or busting a planet, please post the scans. How big was the planet? Was it a planetoid? Hmm? eloborate. And while you are at it, calm down.

Originally posted by fangirl101
And Wondy is constantly being compared to the Likes of Superman and Captain Marvel. Is there a point? Weren't you one of the one's who was daft enough to say that Wondy couldn't attack at Superspeeds. That she couldn't blitz? now your saying she can't fight at superspeeds in direct physical confrontations? what's that all about? Her fight with superman was less than two minutes? So I suppose they did that at a waltzes pace? WTF.

This post just epitomizes failure on evry level. Wondy being compared to superman and captain Marvel has wha bearing on this argument? I was using a gladiator comparison to make a point about ur flawed logic and you just take it completely out of context and apply it to wonderwoman. U are just a big joke and a very inept debater. DO u even read? No i mean CAN u even read? When i said wondy couldnt attack at superspeeds i ALWAYS asked for a scan of such showing her doing this. Yet NO scan of such was EVER provided. It was a very valid arguement. After months of requesting such a scan it has finally been provided and i have NOT continued in that line of argument because it has finally been proven. Is simple English ur problem? Shit, isnt it ur first language? Or is ur comprehension deficeny so great? When did i say that she cant fight at superspeeds in direct physical confrontations? The whole point of my argument was that though she CAN fight at superspeeds in direct physical confrontations nothing u showed gave a quantified speed with which ur daft premise was viable. Lord ive never seen such a confused individual. 🤣 As for the superman wondy fight. Supes was choking her and flying with her into the sun. It was mainly a flight speed feat not one that displayed actual in combat striking superspeed.

Jeez this gibberish just keeps coming from so many different angles.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
This post just epitomizes failure on evry level. Wondy being compared to superman and captain Marvel has wha bearing on this argument? I was using a gladiator comparison to make a point about ur flawed logic and you just take it completely out of context and apply it to wonderwoman. U are just a big joke and a very inept debater. DO u even read? No i mean CAN u even read? When i said wondy couldnt attack at superspeeds i ALWAYS asked for a scan of such showing her doing this. Yet NO scan of such was EVER provided. It was a very valid arguement. After months of requesting such a scan it has finally been provided and i have NOT continued in that line of argument because it has finally been proven. Is simple English ur problem? Shit, isnt it ur first language? Or is ur comprehension deficeny so great? When did i say that she cant fight at superspeeds in direct physical confrontations? The whole point of my argument was that though she CAN fight at superspeeds in direct physical confrontations nothing u showed gave a quantified speed with which ur daft premise was viable. Lord ive never seen such a confused individual. 🤣 As for the superman wondy fight. Supes was choking her and flying with her into the sun. It was mainly a flight speed feat not one that displayed actual in combat striking superspeed.

Jeez this gibberish just keeps coming from so many different angles.


Sorry you are too slow to understand. They did far more than fly to the sun. They flew there and back. Fought when she first deflected his beams. fought on the way there. fought on the ground. called birds. injured each other. And I guess this was all at a waltzes pace like I said. Given the fact that they had to travelto and back from the sun. She got time to distract him with slow moving birds. hid from him. I'd say when they did interact, it was at superspeeds. That cannot be denied. Espeically at 1 min adn 56 seconds. I'm sorry you think i'm confused. I suppose if I was sucking every marvel characters crack addict pipe, then i would not be confused huh. Fine. Gladiator is so much faster than wonder woman that he appears as a blur to her. she won't be able to block or dodge his punches cuz she isn't skill or agile worth shit. She's not fast. he'll knock her out with one punch becuz you know, she's only been hit by Zoom and superman and shit. She's weak.

Originally posted by Enyalus
No. Normal Gladiator could do everything BA did in WW3.

You're right. A fully confident Gladiator is in an entirely different league than Superman.

no version of glads is touching this version of BA your in dream land.

However i due thing glads has a speed advantage over everyone.

BA solo's this at least this version of ba.

For FINALFLASH

Originally posted by fangirl101
Are you ok? Do you need help with your problem? Superman wasn't moving the earth. read the god damned comic. He and others were keeping it's orbit. Do you know how much power that takes? let me give you a hint. The entire solar system's planets, moons, asteroids, and comets all keep each other in orbit. So they were cranking out the force of a star system just to keep earth in orbit. It takes considerably less energy to just yank a planet quickly out of its orbit. once it's yanked, then it's easily moved. Bet you didnt' know that. now you do.

Wonder woman broke out of one of quasar's constructs in the JLA avengers book. Did you see how powerful his constructs are/ they've stood up to Galactu's beams and to multiple heroes trying to break free. so there you go. Is Glads stronger than her?

Oh and Superman flew from Vega to Earth. At least 500,000 yes that's 500 THOUSAND times faster than light. And that is if he took a 30 minute trip.

As far as Gladiator moving or busting a planet, please post the scans. How big was the planet? Was it a planetoid? Hmm? eloborate. And while you are at it, calm down.

Do you have a mental problem?? The writers ALLOWED supes to get from point a to b without a CONFIRMED SPEED... its that or make a comicbook the size of a San Antonio TX phone-book... You know nothing about comicbooks, superman could not move the moon by himself.. get out of that one... you want to know how big that planet was that gladiator destroyed but you accept YOUR speed for superman..ha ha. superman got killed by doomsday because he got tired ( plus a ass whooping ) Gladiator stood up to tyrant, someone that would murder superman, doomsday and wonder woman at the same time. Supreme would beat superman then turn around an stomp WW.

this version of BA battled by himself martian manhunter powergirl wonderwoman he had to deal with captian marvel and i dont know how many other a and b class characters, now if you said regular BA id say a fully confident glads would do it but this version of ba.

thats just crazy.

Originally posted by finalflash
Do you have a mental problem?? The writers ALLOWED supes to get from point a to b without a CONFIRMED SPEED... its that or make a comicbook the size of a San Antonio TX phone-book... You know nothing about comicbooks, superman could not move the moon by himself.. get out of that one... you want to know how big that planet was that gladiator destroyed but you accept YOUR speed for superman..ha ha. superman got killed by doomsday because he got tired ( plus a ass whooping ) Gladiator stood up to tyrant, someone that would murder superman, doomsday and wonder woman at the same time. Supreme would beat superman then turn around an stomp WW.

you don't own many dc comics do you? if you did then you'd know that superman was depowered when he fought doosmday the first time. I bet you dind't know that did you? Byrne depowered superman after crisis. And since then, he's steadily grown in power. He's actually above the top tier in strength now. But you didn't know that. I know that you hate that Superman moves so fast in countdown. But he did it. You can't deny on panel feats.
OH AND DID YOU NOTICE HOW WONDER WOMAN BROKE QUASAR'S CONSTRUCT WHEN GALACTUS COULDN'T AND ALL THOSE HEROES COULDN'T EITHER. I BET THAT EATS YOU UP INSIDE.

One more thing. PC legion is canon now. which means so are superman's feats when he was there. PC superboy pulled a chain of planets from one galaxy to the next.