Batman vs. Boba Fett

Started by Robtard6 pages
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK, lets break it down. List the weaponry Boba is seen using, and vice versa for Batman.

Batman has the Batpod in this; it has what looks like twin .50 cal machine guns and some form of missile or RPG launcher.

On his person, he has has his batarangs, forearm spikes, grappling hooks, explosives strong enough to blow a man-sized hole in a brick wall and that device he used to summon a swarm of bats. He might have more, can't remember, that's more than enough when you combine that with his feats.

Feat-wise, he kicked the LOS ninja-clan's ass, he took out a SWAT team, three attack dogs, multiple armed and unarmed gangster/hired muscle. He also performed varies feats of skilled acrobatics.

What did Boba do? He got knocked down on his ass, missed a distracted Luke at fairly close range and got surprise-attacked and owned by a blind-man. Seriously RJ, just swallow your SW fanboy pride and accept that on screen, Boba is a dud. Besides, you'll always have Jango, he actully did something worthwhile.

Edit: I forgot his cowl, it has imaging capabilites built in.

So Boba's helmet is just that? A helmet? We ignore all the tech gear he has installed in it? And you accuse ME of gimping.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So Boba's helmet is just that? A helmet? We ignore all the tech gear he has installed in it? And you accuse ME of gimping.

WTF is wrong with you, stop being a senseless clown, seriously, it isn't cool. You asked someone to make a list; I made one for Batman. Go ahead and make one for Boba.

Besides, what I said about Batman's cowl, was shown in the movie; it's movie-canon. Can you say the same for Boba's helm?

Boba is nothing in the movie; YOU KNOW THIS. I'm sure in the books you've read, he's formidable, but those don't count. Besides, like I told you before, Batman has far more feats to draw from in literature.

Nothing, right. Only the most feared Bounty Hunter in the galaxy, That's all. Yeah, a pushover 🙄

The fact that Boba has a Jet pack and can take off whenever he wants, poruing blaster fire, flame and rockets and God knows what else on Batman is all the edge he needs.

Batman can glide, sure, but he can't just take off like a bird, can he?

Boba never used a flame thrower in the movie, or a rocket.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Boba never used a flame thrower in the movie, or a rocket.
haermm He had the same gear as his father had man. Same gauntlets and everything, it's IMPLIED. But if you choose to ignore the obvious to help argue for Batman, go right ahead.

Someone doesn't get the concept of canonicity...

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
haermm He had the same gear as his father had man. Same gauntlets and everything, it's IMPLIED. But if you choose to ignore the obvious to help argue for Batman, go right ahead.

This coming from the man who thought it nonsensical for Sideous to have his lighsaber in a fight.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
This coming from the man who thought it nonsensical for Sideous to have his lighsaber in a fight.
Because the thread starter didnt specify whether or not Sidious had a saber or not.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Boba never used a flame thrower in the movie, or a rocket.
I agree with the flamethrower. I think it is pretty evident that he has a Rocket on his standard gear, though. I guess if we go by what we seen in the movie he can't use anything but his blaster and the Jetpack only as a sort of jumpiing device.

[edit] Also, just realized he has the Batpod...I think I'd rather call it in favour of Batman. Especially if we just take what Boba specifically did on screen (which is unfair of course...but hard to judge otherwise)

Originally posted by Bardock42
I agree with the flamethrower. I think it is pretty evident that he has a Rocket on his standard gear, though. I guess if we go by what we seen in the movie he can't use anything but his blaster and the Jetpack only as a sort of jumpiing device.

[edit] Also, just realized he has the Batpod...I think I'd rather call it in favour of Batman. Especially if we just take what Boba specifically did on screen (which is unfair of course...but hard to judge otherwise)

Boba made ONE mistake, he turned his back on a blind man. People need to stop saying "Han pwned Boba!!!" Cuz he DIDN'T. Mistakes are made in a fight/battle all the time. Batman DID get pwned by Two Face, and had to rely on ROBIN to save him, remember?

Boba had three threats. A Jedi, a blind Corellian, and a bound Wookkie. He focused on the most dangerous one, as he should have. If it hadn't been for Han being lucky enough to engage Boba's jet pack, he, Chewie and Luke would have been toast.

Boba has the same standard gear as Jango, heavily modified. Yes, he has a flamethrower, you can see the gas line running down his left arm. To ignore this is lunacy.

And so what if Batman has the Batpod? Boba would blow it to shit from the sky before it became a factor. It would be far more interesting to give Batman the Batjet.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Boba made ONE mistake, he turned his back on a blind man. People need to stop saying "Han pwned Boba!!!" Cuz he DIDN'T. Mistakes are made in a fight/battle all the time. Batman DID get pwned by Two Face, and had to rely on ROBIN to save him, remember?

True, I didn't bring that up though. Try focussing on my points in replies to me, please.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Boba had three threats. A Jedi, a blind Corellian, and a bound Wookkie. He focused on the most dangerous one, as he should have. If it hadn't been for Han being lucky enough to engage Boba's jet pack, he, Chewie and Luke would have been toast.

Well you can't prove that with only the movie. As everyone points out, Boba's movie performances are slim at best. Also, lets be fair here, he got subdued, then Luke attacked others and Boba after getting up tried to shoot him from the first platform totally exposing his back to Han Solo and Chewbacca. "Luke would have been toast" is absolute nonsense compared to what we actually saw.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Boba has the same standard gear as Jango, heavily modified. Yes, he has a flamethrower, you can see the gas line running down his left arm. To ignore this is lunacy.

Doesn't say so in the movie. We only see him have blasters, jetpack and a rope.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And so what if Batman has the Batpod? Boba would blow it to shit from the sky before it became a factor. It would be far more interesting to give Batman the Batjet.

Where, in the movies, is Boba shown being able to easily take out and blow up something as fast and armored as the batpod?

You can't just say those things, you need to provide evidence.

Originally posted by Bardock42
True, I didn't bring that up though. Try focussing on my points in replies to me, please.

Well you can't prove that with only the movie. As everyone points out, Boba's movie performances are slim at best. Also, lets be fair here, he got subdued, then Luke attacked others and Boba after getting up tried to shoot him from the first platform totally exposing his back to Han Solo and Chewbacca. "Luke would have been toast" is absolute nonsense compared to what we actually saw.

Doesn't say so in the movie. We only see him have blasters, jetpack and a rope.

Where, in the movies, is Boba shown being able to easily take out and blow up something as fast and armored as the batpod?

You can't just say those things, you need to provide evidence.

So if we see the hilt of a knife sticking out of his pocket, and it's obvious it's a knife, but we don't see him USING it, it doesn't count?

Yes, Luke would have been toast. He was battling several skiff guards while Boba took aim and fired on him. A few seconds more and Luke would have been a goner.

"Most feared bounty hunter in the galaxy".......What does this mean to you? It tells me he is the best at what he does. Obviously since he is the best, he is surely quite adept at using his equipment.

The Batjet was taken out by the Joker with a PISTOL, man. A PISTOL. The Batpod would certainly easier to hit and take out than the Batjet.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So if we see the hilt of a knife sticking out of his pocket, and it's obvious it's a knife, but we don't see him USING it, it doesn't count?

Yes, Luke would have been toast. He was battling several skiff guards while Boba took aim and fired on him. A few seconds more and Luke would have been a goner.

"Most feared bounty hunter in the galaxy".......What does this mean to you? It tells me he is the best at what he does. Obviously since he is the best, he is surely quite adept at using his equipment.

The Batjet was taken out by the Joker with a PISTOL, man. A PISTOL. The Batpod would certainly easier to hit and take out than the Batjet.

No, but the Flame Thrower tubes could be anything really. You could also argue that we don't know whether that hing on his back is actually a rocket or just the way the Jetpack looks. Either way, I don't mind including those two things, really. Others do object though.

That's how you think it would have gone. Luke might just have evaded it. And even if, what exactly is the great portrayal of skill in shooting a man who has his back on you fighting about 10 others.

This means to me that he is called something. Reputation doesn't make skill. And it doesn't matter in this fight, Batman is called lots of shit, but we don't argue by title, do we?

That's illogical. The Batjet is in a totally different franchise. You should really stop bringing up Batman 89, Batman Returns, Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, which were a different franchise, and Impediment specified that he means Batman Begins. On top of that it disregards what we have actually seen the Batpod do, which is certainly more important than what another tool did and judge from that.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, but the Flame Thrower tubes could be anything really. You could also argue that we don't know whether that hing on his back is actually a rocket or just the way the Jetpack looks. Either way, I don't mind including those two things, really. Others do object though.

That's how you think it would have gone. Luke might just have evaded it. And even if, what exactly is the great portrayal of skill in shooting a man who has his back on you fighting about 10 others.

This means to me that he is called something. Reputation doesn't make skill. And it doesn't matter in this fight, Batman is called lots of shit, but we don't argue by title, do we?

That's illogical. The Batjet is in a totally different franchise. You should really stop bringing up Batman 89, Batman Returns, Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, which were a different franchise, and Impediment specified that he means Batman Begins. On top of that it disregards what we have actually seen the Batpod do, which is certainly more important than what another tool did and judge from that.

Man, this is nuts. It's a line running from his Jet Pack to his left gauntlet, what do you think it is? A cappucino mixer? It's a FUEL line. The Jet Pack contains ROCKET FUEL. A line running from his jet pack to his left gauntlet could serve no other purpose than to fuel his flame thrower. It's like once someone mentioned here that the Batmobile in Batman Begins had an armored undercarriage, but that was not mentioned in the movies. Well, the poster looked it up and sure enough, it was stated @ wikipedia that the Batmobile did indeed have an armored undercarriage. Why was that kosher, but a wiki link with Boba Fett's weaponry not kosher?

To attain the title "Most feared Bounty Hunter in the GALAXY" one must be able to kick some serious ass. Being the most feared anything is enough, but the most feared Bounty Hunter? One's reputation is attained through feats one accomplishes, it's quite simple.

OK, so I missed that (the franchise thing you mentioned), just as you missed the Batpod part.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Man, this is nuts. It's a line running from his Jet Pack to his left gauntlet, what do you think it is? A cappucino mixer? It's a FUEL line. The Jet Pack contains ROCKET FUEL. A line running from his jet pack to his left gauntlet could serve no other purpose than to fuel his flame thrower. It's like once someone mentioned here that the Batmobile in Batman Begins had an armored undercarriage, but that was not mentioned in the movies. Well, the poster looked it up and sure enough, it was stated @ wikipedia that the Batmobile did indeed have an armored undercarriage. Why was that kosher, but a wiki link with Boba Fett's weaponry not kosher?

To attain the title "Most feared Bounty Hunter in the GALAXY" one must be able to kick some serious ass. Being the most feared anything is enough, but the most feared Bounty Hunter? One's reputation is attained through feats one accomplishes, it's quite simple.

OK, so I missed that (the franchise thing you mentioned), just as you missed the Batpod part.

You argue in "shoulds", "woulds", "it-was-said-about-hims" and "maybes".

Also you argue against my points with things I have no bearing over. I have no idea why another posted argued a way they did and you didn't contend it. Maybe it was before the rule change, maybe they thought this line of reasoning is allowed, how should I know? Could you just focus on what I say, instead of what others said and others argued?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Research Boba's weaponry. He has alot more than a blaster rifle.

Boba will know Batman is vastly superior h2h, he will not be an idiot and engage that way.

1) It's not a matter of what he has used throughout history, just what you seem to think he's going to be carrying with him. He's not a tank.

2) So why are you still assuming Batman is going to be standing in open ground, letting him do all this?

It's in Gotham City and it's Batman. He's not fighting Kimbo Slice in an open parking lot.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
But if you choose to ignore the obvious to help argue for Batman, go right ahead.

Like you're not ignoring the obvious for Batman.

-AC

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So if we see the hilt of a knife sticking out of his pocket, and it's obvious it's a knife, but we don't see him USING it, it doesn't count?

Yes, Luke would have been toast. He was battling several skiff guards while Boba took aim and fired on him. A few seconds more and Luke would have been a goner.

"Most feared bounty hunter in the galaxy".......What does this mean to you? It tells me he is the best at what he does. Obviously since he is the best, he is surely quite adept at using his equipment.

The Batjet was taken out by the Joker with a PISTOL, man. A PISTOL. The Batpod would certainly easier to hit and take out than the Batjet.

If you're going to cry and say "that tube has to be a flamethrower", sure, Boba has a flame thrower. On those same grounds of reasoning, then Batman's suit and cape are flame-resistant.

Boba missed Luke; from a close distance. For you to say he would have definitely killed him on his 2nd shot is dishonest. Boba could just as easily missed again.

So having a title is now a greater feat than actually doing something amazing? I've debated from what Batman is factually seen doing, can you do the same for Boba?

Um no, those are two entirely different movies and vehicles. The Batpod is part of the Tumbler; the Tumbler is built almost like a tank. Either way, I doubt Batman would need the Batpod to win this, considering Boba's performance on screen.

Robtard "So having a title is now a greater feat than actually doing something amazing? I've debated from what Batman is factually seen doing, can you do the same for Boba?"

I think your reasoning is flawed. If Boba Fett is know throughout the "Galaxy" as the best (Batman known throughout Gotham City) and good enough for Darth Vader to hire, I think that speaks volumes for the amazing feats he must have done.

While you can say the hype (and that's all it really is, hype) about him "speaks volumes", what we see him do on screen is a deafening roar. He misses a distracted Luke who wasn't all that far from him and gets surprised-attacked by a blind Solo.

Vader also hired about 7-8 (or was it more?) other guys, that should tell you the kind of confidence he had in the galaxy's 'greatest bounty hunter.'

So is anyone going to bring up some valid feats that can be backed up by the movies about Boba, or are we going to continue this "but, but, but, he's Boba Fett" nonsense?