Jin Kazama VS Ken Masters

Started by G4RTWR4 pages

I'll take the honor of posting some of Jin's doings.

YouTube video7:10, he brings down scores of TF soldiers, and had to be taken down with tranquilizers. In my honest opinion, I do not think Ken would have gotten as far, but that is because I didn't see much of Ken's accomplishments.

YouTube video00:56, turns around at the last second only to parry the blow from Chaolan (think it's Chaolan) with apparent ease, not having to open his eyes. Shows he has a heightened sense. Not canon in my book, but thread creator can use it if he desires.

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I'm cool with the first one, but the second one:
Parrying a punch is a feat? Ok. . . Ken's K.O. people with a single shoryuken [not even his best] and sent them flying.

YouTube video

Unless we count devil, those are the best feats Jin will have.
But, I'm not into feat wars and I say Jin could win.

his point was the last second thing. notice the bullet time shite involved. and jin did it with his eyes closed while turning around and parried it perfectly. if he did it with open eyes, then no, but he did it without opening his eyes AND it was someoen as skilled as Lee doing it from behind him while he had his eyes closed (...this sounds so wrong btw 😛 ).

Jin also broke chains after having his powers depleted, shown insane durability by socking a blow that sent him 20 feat away into a boulder that vaped on impact and he was only slightly dazed by it. it didn't even hurt him. he then proceded to single handedly pwn several jacks on his own. he also took a harley smacked into him head on and the explosion without getting hurt. powerwise, he can smack people away like 30+feet. and lastly, Kuma's T6 profile says that Jin shitstomped him with great ease......which shows the overall skill and power that Jin has come to since he did something that even Paul cna't do.

Jin beats Ken on almost all levels.

~Sado

Yo Sado!

Bullet time SFX doesn't mean much Sado, that feat doesn't impress me.

-He broke chains when he awakened his Devil power mane.
-He was laid out on the floor, how is that not hurt. . .because he's conscious?
-When did he pwn jacks?
-The harley was Devil Jin
-Who doesn't he beat, Jin's jobber aura is bigger than pre-crisis supes. . .he defeats everyone.

I think Jin could win as well, but not dominate.

He did beat Heihachi and True Ogre by his lonesome--eventhough he was using the Mishima-Ryu style.

Personally, without the plot on his side I don't think he could have beaten Heihachi. Maybe, True Ogre, but not Heihachi.

true ogre himself is a fire breathing monster who destroy a helicopter with his back hand. and Jin defeat such a creature like that without exhausted. that's quite impressive.

I don't see why Jin plotinduced himself to victory. He is younger than Heihachi which in turns grants him more stamina, he inherited his mommy and daddy's skills plus he was trained by Heihachi himself. It is not a stretch to believe he could do it. Heck he has done it twice now.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I don't see why Jin plotinduced himself to victory. He is younger than Heihachi which in turns grants him more stamina, he inherited his mommy and daddy's skills plus he was trained by Heihachi himself. It is not a stretch to believe he could do it. Heck he has done it twice now.

Except he's never ever demonstrated any feats that put him above Heihachi. He's just flat out defeated him, No detail or nothing. Heihchi has more experience and much better durability. Age isn't gonna change that. I could give him the benefit of the doubt the first few times. But, after a while it becomes obvious that something is wrong when he has no feats that show his stats other then beating people. People forget that in a fictional story, the writer can make anyone win. What exactly did regular Jin display that puts him above Heihachi or anyone he beats?

I am not fond of Jin so I am not going to make a case for him. Keep thinking what ye want of him.

Copout at its finest, but I frankly don't care about him enough to bother arguing with you beyond two posts.

Well, I think he wins though. . .So, we are in agreement. I can't believe we are arguing Jin LOL.

Anyway, Sado I believe Jin has feats, but are you counting his d=Devil gene feats which are part of his power set or regular plain old Jin? Depending on which you will get different results. I'm stepping out of this debate, it's been fun.

Jin Kazama.
If he turns into Devil Jin, Ken has no hope of living.

Bullet time SFX doesn't mean much Sado, that feat doesn't impress me.

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-He broke chains when he awakened his Devil power mane.

but they ARE his power in ways, aren't they. its like Orochi power in Iori. but yeah, i get your point.

-He was laid out on the floor, how is that not hurt. . .because he's conscious?

he didn't seem hurt really. he was just sitting there and didn't even hold his ribs or chest in pain or cough out blood like you would if you're actually hurt (case in point, terry coughing blood when Ryo hit him in KoFMI2 intro). Jin wasn't even panting when he spoke. he was just confused.

-When did he pwn jacks?

Devil withing prologue. and notice that Kaz and Hachi did the same...and he pwned them both while tired and had his powers sucked. even if not canon, its atleast plausible. plus its made by Namco so they won't be showing things he CANT do imo.

-The harley was Devil Jin

its hard to say. he took the impact though. THAT was jin. we only see Devil Jin once the smoke clears. not to mention that he DID take it right after mega kick in the chin from richbitchho whatshername.

-Who doesn't he beat, Jin's jobber aura is bigger than pre-crisis supes. . .he defeats everyone.

his gaypal, Hwoarang 😆

I think Jin could win as well, but not dominate.

agreed.

btw, Jin does have power feats where he smacked richbitchhowhatshernamedamnit and smacked her like 30ft away. that was impressive. he also smacked around a bear with little bear. that's also a feat. that's two things Ken hasn't evne come close to doing his whole career (which sucks because i actually like ken).

Except he's never ever demonstrated any feats that put him above Heihachi. He's just flat out defeated him, No detail or nothing. Heihchi has more experience and much better durability. Age isn't gonna change that. I could give him the benefit of the doubt the first few times. But, after a while it becomes obvious that something is wrong when he has no feats that show his stats other then beating people. People forget that in a fictional story, the writer can make anyone win. What exactly did regular Jin display that puts him above Heihachi or anyone he beats?

ditto. Kaz and hachi deserved better treatment than getting laid out back to back by Jin. i like Jin (but hate him now cuz my girl keeps talking about him! 😠 ) but Kaz and Hachi are the ones who put Tekken on the map in the first place. i don't mind kaz or hachi losing ot Jin but back to back makes them look bad.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
jin has feats man. whats wrong with you?😬
What feats?
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
...I don't really like Jin, but seriously, he DOES have feats and he DOES beat featless wonder Ken.
What feats?

And BEATIN" PEOPLE IS NOT A FEAT

If we can use that type of shit I can easily say that Ryu can beat pretty much anybody cuz he drawed wit Akuma in Apha 2. Or that Ryu can vape cities cuz he can beat Bison who did the same.

I said Jin will win but not in a stomp. What's wrong wit you people?

-punching people away 30ft away with a single shot
-smacking around full grown MA using grizzy bears with no effort at all
-taking out swarm after swarm of jack robots and was winning despite them having the drop on him and attacking him while he was vulnerable and spent
-socking a blow that sent him 20 feet over the ground into a giant boulder that dusted on impact and he wasn't even hurt
-taking out armed guards who got the drop on him for a long periods of time

all these pwn anything ken has done in all career.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
-punching people away 30ft away with a single shot
Big deal, Ken can destroy SUVs in under 40 secs.
Originally posted by Sado22
-smacking around full grown MA using grizzy bears with no effort at all
When?
Originally posted by Sado22
-taking out swarm after swarm of jack robots and was winning despite them having the drop on him and attacking him while he was vulnerable and spent
Jacks are fodder and when did this happen?
Originally posted by Sado22
-socking a blow that sent him 20 feet over the ground into a giant boulder that dusted on impact and he wasn't even hurt
He was hurt.
Originally posted by Sado22
-taking out armed guards who got the drop on him for a long periods of time
BEATIN' PEOPLE IS NOT A FEAT. Especialy fodder who eventually won.

Originally posted by Sado22
-all these pwn anything ken has done in all career.
True but non of those things make Jin EXTREMLY more superhuman than Ken which is why it aint a stomp and if you keep usin' other people to prov Jin is good than I will have to do the same for Ken, which is really stupid.

Big deal, Ken can destroy SUVs in under 40 secs.

😐...........and jin can play volleyboll with an ironball weighting 100kgs.

When?

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Jacks are fodder and when did this happen?

jacks are fodder one-on-one. not when they are swarming you, and getting the drop on you and jumping you. oh and state of the art, armor plated 300kgs robots with builtin machine guns systems and explosives are fodder for only tekken characters...........compared to Ken, who could only dislocate a humanoid cyborg's jaw with a superpowered shoryuken hysterical
it happend in devil within prologue

He was hurt.

why? was he coughing blood? did he spit out saliva? was he holding his chest or ribs in pain? was he grimmacing? he was he twitching? was he panting and gasping and unable to talk?
no, hence your point is moot.

BEATIN' PEOPLE IS NOT A FEAT. Especialy fodder who eventually won.

cuz they shot him with tranqs from several directions.

True but non of those things make Jin EXTREMLY more superhuman than Ken which is why it aint a stomp and if you keep usin' other people to prov Jin is good than I will have to do the same for Ken, which is really stupid.

when did i use other people?

P.S. its good to see how far KMC has come. there were days where i'd get flamed for even making this thread. nice to see a rebellion win. HOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEE!!

~Sado McMurphy

Originally posted by Sado22
😐...........and jin can play volleyboll with an ironball weighting 100kgs

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jacks are fodder one-on-one. not when they are swarming you, and getting the drop on you and jumping you. oh and state of the art, armor plated 300kgs robots with builtin machine guns systems and explosives are fodder for only tekken characters...........compared to Ken, who could only dislocate a humanoid cyborg's jaw with a superpowered shoryuken hysterical
it happend in devil within prologue

why? was he coughing blood? did he spit out saliva? was he holding his chest or ribs in pain? was he grimmacing? he was he twitching? was he panting and gasping and unable to talk?
no, hence your point is moot.

cuz they shot him with tranqs from several directions.

when did i use other people?

P.S. its good to see how far KMC has come. there were days where i'd get flamed for even making this thread. nice to see a rebellion win. HOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEE!!

~Sado McMurphy

1. That isn't as good

2. I'll check that out.

3. Too bad none of the jacks used any of the super cool tech on Jin. And that Cyborg had feats, good ones, ones that would make him easily solo Jin in a fight and put'im on a lvl that has'im rival devil Jin if not beat'im. And last I heard, the Devil With In was some non canon bonus game.

4. 😆 He didn't get up and he looked damn dazed to me. Your over exadurattin' now.

5. Which show he aint that superhuman cuz he can't dodge tranqs 😆

6.

Originally posted by Sado22
jack robots
Originally posted by Sado22
armed guards
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Originally posted by Sado22
even if not canon, its atleast plausible. plus its made by Namco so they won't be showing things he CANT do imo.
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