Blade vs. DareDevil

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I dunno his strength feats seem significantly better. Ive never seen DD throw somebody with superhuman strength a long way into the air.

DD gets punched in the face like evrybody else when fighting skilled opponents. The longer the fights drags on the better for Blade.

Vampires are still better and there are examples of vampires giving superheroes trouble. I also pointed out that Dlade has doged laser fire or gunfire from vamps.

That was prior to his upgrade and the other fights they have had show that DD should have never beaten Bp so easily....disgraceful.

Never said he couldnt do well, hes not pressure pointing Blade.

1. Meh a 150-170 tops strong woman. Her strength not really an issue. He chucked her because she did not weigh much. Unless vampires also weigh more than humans...........

2.Yep he does. Just that he is more skilled (noticeably) than Blade, at least as fast and with superhuman senses. He will be hitting and avoiding Blade more often and with more effective strikes. Blade's better durability won't be enough.

3. Honestly I have not seen any evidence to say that average vamps in marvel are anywhere near even peak human.......let alone superhuman. DD has dodged lasers more impressivley and aslo point blank range gunfire from BULLSEYE.

4. He won't be needing to pressure point someone he is just as fast as, superior to in fighting skill and who is not really that durable or strong anyway. DD's fists and or feet will do the trick. 🙂

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Blade was never "upgraded" his back story was retconned, he's always been a halfbreed.

Blade. this ain't a fight it's a slaughter

besides DD has no superstrength (heck he's no match for Kingpin, and even Kingpin ain't got superstrength, just peak human strength)

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
Blade. this ain't a fight it's a slaughter

besides DD has no superstrength (heck he's no match for Kingpin, and even Kingpin ain't got superstrength, just peak human strength)

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King Pin has casually ripped a duded arm off while shaking his hand... he has superhuman strength.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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King Pin has casually ripped a duded arm off while shaking his hand... he has superhuman strength.

maybe an extremely well trained man (IRL) would be able to do likewise

check Louis Cyr's feats for example (his excessive training ultimately got the better of him & he died relatively young, but at least in his heydays he was very strong)

also the Boston Strongman (a superheavyweight boxer, can't remember his real name)

or John Gagnon, unlike Cyr he was relatively lightweight (100kg or so) but as strong or even stronger than Cyr

or maybe I'm wrong & ripping out an arm is humanly impossible, but if that's so then KingPin must have acquired superhuman strength at some point, I'm not that familiar with his storyline (did he become a mutant ?)

I'm thinking it happened somewhere when Quesada was pencling DD, so Kevin Smiths run or Macks.

I'm pretty sure that it would be impossible for a "normal" human to yank off someones arm.

so if it's impossible for a human then this means Kingpin is a mutant - was he born so or turned into one ?

the way they presented him I always got the impression he was an ordinary human with peak strength like Captain America or Batman, not superhuman...???

if Kingpin is a mutant then does he have other superpowers as well ? (superdurability, superspeed etc.)

Originally posted by Warrior18
Lol. It's a shame Blade's very very very low superhuman strength won't mean jack against someone who is at least in the 800lbs range anyway and has successfully fought guys far far stronger than Blade. 😬

Originally posted by Warrior18
DD causes Hyde to stop breathing with a pressure point strike. Hyde who is far more durable than Blade.
http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=swork180zt.jpg

Here temporarily he paralyzes a man with a strike.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1979/onemoveparalyzed1rx.jpg

Back to speed.He dodges a tank that can read his mind basically.
http://img480.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevil133177hl.jpg

More pressure nerve strikes.
http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=daredevil149176nr.jpg

Makes Hammerhead scream through striking him with nerve strikes.
http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dd84014gs6.jpg

Daredevil could simply kill with pressure points if he wished.
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1354/daredevilv20617zm1.jpg

Quick deviation from skill. DD can also jump insanely high too.
http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05sf5.jpg

Makes the superhuman Ox go blind from nerve strikes.
http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dd104dcp0008my9.jpg

Please post scans of Blade doing anything close to this. DD surpasses him considerably in martial skill.

the laser dodging scan, it seems to be acontinuous beam, thatd be easier to dodge than laser blasts because you can see where its going, as for the pressure points having a healing factor would help a lot heal from any damage and if daredevil gets that close I doubt he'd be able to dodge a gun shot

Originally posted by Warrior18
Blade, based on feats is not really more than 1 tonne. DD is below him, but not by much.Advantages like what? Durability? DD aint that far behind. Speed? They haven't shown Blade to be ahead of DD in this respect. I have shown very similar DD speed feats.

and no the speed feats arent really the same, they are impressive but blades are more impressive

Originally posted by Warrior18
Blade is a 1 tonner tops, his punches will at most only be fractionally harder than DD's if you buy that they will be harder at all......
DD will hurt Blade with his punches etc as you correctly pointed out. Yet considering that there is almost no difference in speed between the two, DD is a noticeably better fighter and he has senses which mean he knows when Blade will strike, how will Blade win this?

Vampires still don't really impress me. They have never been shown to be that superior to the foes other street levelers face. Also the thugs DD faces are frequently armed with automatic weapons etc and add to that aren't exactly couch potatoes.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I have some deadlines to meet for tomorrow, so I'm pretty busy but I'd like to say a few things.

A vampire's strength doesn't make them weigh more than a normal human. So tossing a vamp 10 feet straight up is the same as tossing a normal human straight up. Has Matt ever done that? Not sure about straight up but he has tossed humans comparable distances horizontally. His tossing a 400 lbs barbell across a room like a baseball is also considerably more impressive. He has also jumped a good 20-30 feet with out a running start... which about the same a tossing a human 10 feet only accomplished with the legs and not the feet.

Blade was never "upgraded" his back story was retconned, he's always been a halfbreed.

You can't dodge bullets / laser fire in mid-air. Jumping commits you to a set trajectory that can not be altered. If you jump and aren't hit by bullets, its because the shooter missed.

and jumping isnt comparalbe to throwing a person...for one the leg muscles are considerably stronger than the arms, blade throwing up a vampire with one arm, and dare devil jumping are two different things
and even i f his story retconned it, back then he was written as a human

and no neccersarily, blade outmaneuvered the lasers (hes flipping and changing positions in the air)

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
well seing as 1 ton is 2000 pound...thats a lot more than 800

I say DD is at least 800lbs.......he could be more. Anyway in the comic world such differences are frequently inconsequential. DD has after all fought the likes of Tombstone and Spiderman. He has also given Captain America a very tough time while mindcotrolled.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
if daredevil gets that close I doubt he'd be able to dodge a gun shot

He has dodged gunfire from bullseye at near point blank range before.
Also don't forget DD's senses. He will know when Blade is about to attack.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
Blade. this ain't a fight it's a slaughter

besides DD has no superstrength (heck he's no match for Kingpin, and even Kingpin ain't got superstrength, just peak human strength)

Go read up on your Daredevil.........

Originally posted by Warrior18
[B]Blade is a 1 tonner tops, his punches will at most only be fractionally harder than DD's if you buy that they will be harder at all......

Originally posted by Warrior18
I say DD is at least 800lbs.......he could be more. Anyway in the comic world such differences are frequently inconsequential. DD has after all fought the likes of Tombstone and Spiderman. He has also given Captain America a very tough time while mindcotrolled.

and blade has beaten vampiric spiderman and dracula easily.

blade being more than twice as strong as daredevil would make huge a difference.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
...so Daredevil can lift 1 ton ? since when does he have superstrength ? he's helpless even against Kingpin lol

He effortlessly curled a 400lbs weight, then twirled it around like a staff wacking people with it before throwing it across a room at speed. He is very very strong. I did not say he is a 1 tonner. Read my posts.
He fairly recently beat the living shit out of the Kingpin and then declared himself 'Kingpin' of hell's kitchen.........
As I said ealier.......go back and read up on your Daredevil.

Originally posted by Warrior18
He has dodged gunfire from bullseye at near point blank range before.
Also don't forget DD's senses. He will know when Blade is about to attack.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
captain america didnt seem to be having a problem with him,

and blade has beaten vampiric spiderman and dracula easily.

blade being more than twice as strong as daredevil would make huge a difference.

1. Cap was taken aback and had to fight hard if I recall. Even when DD's mind was utterly screwed.

2. Lol, no it won't. Considering DD has faced off against much stronger opponents and got wacked by them.

Answer me this.......how will Blade cope with DD's senses?