Darkseid vs Trigon

Originally posted by -K-M-
Really? 😕

A parademon who didn't even have direct contact with him greatly distracted him? also the fact Superman made a direct comment about the beams were to quick.

another example

1. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Supermanv2104-17.jpg
2. http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Supermanv2104-18.jpg

He saw those beams when they were a foot away from him. 😬

In both of those scans, Superman didn't see them come from Darkseid's eyes as well (meaning he didn't have time to actually get ready for it)... he did in Apok Now.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Um Sorry. DS had just been blasted by highfather's staff. Which is the Equal of his omegas. You fail. hard.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
I didn't say greatly distracted, but I realize that he was focused on others when it was pretty much too late, but again, he was a lot slower back then.

He saw those beams when they were a foot away from him. 😬

In both of those scans, Superman didn't see them come from Darkseid's eyes as well (meaning he didn't have time to actually get ready for it)... he did in Apok Now.

He really wasn't focused on others, as Infinity Man warned him about the beam and he tried to react but they were to quick for him 😬

and how far away do you think Superman was when Darkseid did it in apok now? 😬

Except there are other times, when Darkseid was literally standing right in front of Superman, and even further then what Superman did to reflect the beams in apok now and SM didn't counter let alone react

Wow. Great Scans!
OS Trigon 10/20!

Originally posted by -K-M-
He really wasn't focused on others, as Infinity Man warned him about the beam and he tried to react but they were to quick for him 😬

and how far away do you think Superman was when Darkseid did it in apok now? 😬

Except there are other times, when Darkseid was literally standing right in front of Superman, and even further then what Superman did to reflect the beams in apok now and SM didn't counter let alone react

At least 10 feet when we still saw him flying. Anyway in battle, and trying to cloak yourself are completely different as far as readiness is concerned.

I never said the beams couldn't hit him, I was just pointing out the obvious differences between your scans and Apok Now. Just because something hits him as well, it doesn't negate others as pis. He tried a different tactic, and it worked (although I believe he tried the same thing against Desaad dressed as Darkseid). Maybe he learned a new tactic against them.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
They were already circled around them when IM warned him. And if we judge by actions, then it looked like Superman's reaction was to punch it...

At least 10 feet when we still saw him flying. Anyway in battle, and trying to cloak yourself are completely different as far as readiness is concerned.

I never said the beams couldn't hit him, I was just pointing out the obvious differences between your scans and Apok Now. Just because something hits him as well, it doesn't negate others as pis. He tried a different tactic, and it worked (although I believe he tried the same thing against Desaad dressed as Darkseid).

Originally posted by quanchi112
The equal to Superman?

Originally posted by fangirl101
I'm confused. What hit Superman and The IM was the yellow finder beams first. Which is why they couldn't react or fight the beams. How is that anything like Apok now? DS didn't even use the finders.

Besides, they were called the Omega Effect in the same scan...

Anyway, even if true, then your post just shows that the two comparisons are completely different, and doesn't overrule anything about Apok Now. I don't know what you'd be getting at...

Originally posted by tsscls
OS Trigon>Supermanx1,000,000

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Give me an scan where DS explains the differences.

Besides, they were called the Omega Effect in the same scan...

Anyway, even if true, then your post just shows that the two comparisons are completely different, and doesn't overrule anything about Apok Now. I don't know what you'd be getting at...

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman can't resist the Omega Effect. It's something that happens the instance the finder beams hit and lock on. I'll see if I can find a scan or two.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman can't resist the Omega Effect. It's something that happens the instance the finder beams hit and lock on. I'll see if I can find a scan or two.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
They were already circled around them when IM warned him. And if we judge by actions, then it looked like Superman's reaction was to punch it...

At least 10 feet when we still saw him flying. Anyway in battle, and trying to cloak yourself are completely different as far as readiness is concerned.

I never said the beams couldn't hit him, I was just pointing out the obvious differences between your scans and Apok Now. Just because something hits him as well, it doesn't negate others as pis. He tried a different tactic, and it worked (although I believe he tried the same thing against Desaad dressed as Darkseid). Maybe he learned a new tactic against them.

Come on 😬

No Superman was on the ground standing when he counter the OE with heat vision. Except DS has tagged Superman with his beams in combat before merely using them for concussive blasts 😬

and you clearly missed the point as to why I posted it in the first place. Ash posted a random scan, so I did. I didn't make any direct comments on the fight or on either scans hence why I just posted the scans. People were basing their opionion from that one scan, without looking at their full history. Also it was Desaad as Darkseid and before that he tagged Superman without much trouble in the sewer.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Come on 😬

No Superman was on the ground standing when he counter the OE with heat vision. Except DS has tagged Superman with his beams in combat before merely using them for concussive blasts 😬

and you clearly missed the point as to why I posted it in the first place. Ash posted a random scan, so I did. I didn't make any direct comments on the fight or on either scans hence why I just posted the scans. People were basing their opionion from that one scan, without looking at their full history. Also it was Desaad as Darkseid and before that he tagged Superman without much trouble in the sewer.

Huh? Anyway, Darkseid was sent flying, he was still moving when he was at least 10 feet away from Superman.
I know that, I never denied it, I was just using the examples thrown out.

No scans are random thus far in this thread (unless someone posted a picture of the cat threesome or something), and every one of them has had relevance to something.
I never said that was your point as well, I just wanted to show the difference between scans. Now, it has seemed to turn into Apok Now example being pis. I mean, that is the point of showing conflicting scans/bringing up so many.

I know... in fact, I said it was Desaad... and I only pointed out the single tactic. Superman didn't want to be BFR'ed, so he wasn't... when it came to combat.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Should I not point out what I saw on the scan?

Huh? Anyway, Darkseid was sent flying, he was still moving when he was at least 10 feet away from Superman.
I know that, I never denied it, I was just using the examples thrown out.

No scans are random thus far in this thread (unless someone posted a picture of the cat threesome or something), and every one of them has had relevance to something.
I never said that was your point as well, I just wanted to show the difference between scans. Now, it has seemed to turn into Apok Now example being pis. I mean, that is the point of showing conflicting scans/bringing up so many.

I know... in fact, I said it was Desaad... and I only pointed out the single tactic. Superman didn't want to be BFR'ed, so he wasn't... when it came to combat.

you can, but basically saying he was distracted isn't really the case

He wasn't still moving as you can see him kneeling over and clinching the ground when he fired it point blank at superman.

I can post dozens of scans of Darkseid being superior, but all people cling to is his low showings and ignore his high. That's a fact on this board, even if the low showings were PIS/CIS, etc. It very well could be considered PIS, but that's not my point as to why I posted the scans. There is far more instance of Darkseid connecting and hitting SUperman with the beams then against.

He wasn't because he deflected the OE beams with heat vision, hell Orion knocked himself out merely just punching an omega barrier. Darkseid every time he uses his beams does not mean he is sending out a teleportation beam, or time manipulation beam, power stealing beam, etc. So to say Suoerman didn't want to be BFR when we don't even know if that was Darkseid's intention is baseless.

😬 This smiley is so annoying.

Thank you KM, you stopped. 🙂

Originally posted by -K-M-
you can, but basically saying he was distracted isn't really the case

He wasn't still moving as you can see him kneeling over and clinching the ground when he fired it point blank at superman.

I can post dozens of scans of Darkseid being superior, but all people cling to is his low showings and ignore his high. That's a fact on this board, even if the low showings were PIS/CIS, etc. It very well could be considered PIS, but that's not my point as to why I posted the scans. There is far more instance of Darkseid connecting and hitting SUperman with the beams then against.

He wasn't because he deflected the OE beams with heat vision, hell Orion knocked himself out merely just punching an omega barrier. Darkseid every time he uses his beams does not mean he is sending out a teleportation beam, or time manipulation beam, power stealing beam, etc. So to say Suoerman didn't want to be BFR when we don't even know if that was Darkseid's intention is baseless.

However, when he was sent flying through the air, he was at least 10 feet away when he was still moving. So, by that logic, he was at the very least 10 feet away. Where he landed could have been 100 feet away for all we know. 😬

Isn't that the point of showing numerous scans... to try and show something as pis, or contradicting? When you say that there is far more instances of him connecting, then you're implying a wrongdoing in writing, something's skewed, the writer is a Debbie Downer, wtc. 😬

I'm talking about the Desaad instance. In the AN fight, he just didn't want to get 'terminated'. 😬

Originally posted by Red Hulk
So what, he just ignored everything else besides the beams? We didn't have time to see what he was doing, but he was still fighting them off in the panels we see... and for some reason, IM is still fighting the Parademons two panels afterwards. 😬

However, when he was sent flying through the air, he was at least 10 feet away when he was still moving. So, by that logic, he was at the very least 10 feet away. Where he landed could have been 100 feet away for all we know. 😬

Isn't that the point of showing numerous scans... to try and show something as pis, or contradicting? When you say that there is far more instances of him connecting, then you're implying a wrongdoing in writing, something's skewed, the writer is a Debbie Downer, wtc. 😬

I'm talking about the Desaad instance. In the AN fight, he just didn't want to get 'terminated'. 😬

Considering that's what IM told him to do, and the fact Superman wasn't even throwing a punch or even had anyone on him. He even commented the beams were just to quick and they hit him, just like they eventually did with Infinity Man

Errr? We see him crash into the ground and we see him causing a crater from being hit in the ground. He was merely JUST 10 ft away as shown in the scan. Come on man, your being a tad silly now. Also like I said earlier again he was 10 ft away and even closer (EDIT: Meant further) in other instances and he tagged Superman no problem with the beams

Yes, but once again I didn't even want to do that in the first place as I mentioned earlier.

Yeah but that's Dessad, doesn't mean he had the full access to the power of the Omega Beams. So sort of makes it redundent.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Considering that's what IM told him to do, and the fact Superman wasn't even throwing a punch or even had anyone on him. He even commented the beams were just to quick and they hit him, just like they eventually did with Infinity Man

Errr? We see him crash into the ground and we see him causing a crater from being hit in the ground. He was merely JUST 10 ft away as shown in the scan. Come on man, your being a tad silly now. Also like I said earlier again he was 10 ft away and even closer in other instances and he tagged Superman no problem with the beams

Yes, but once again I didn't even want to do that in the first place as I mentioned earlier.

Yeah but that's Dessad, doesn't mean he had the full access to the power of the Omega Beams. So sort of makes it redundent.

You think he simply stopped after hitting the rocks (he didn't get smashed straight into the ground)? 100 feet was hyperbole so I could use this '😬'
I know, that's been addressed, but at the time of the statement, only three instances were brought up, now we're simply arguing length.

So, why even post scans, and still bring up different encounters? I haven't denied anything about DS hitting him (in fact, I acknowledged it), only made an observation about the two, then three fights.

I brought it up to show a similar occurrence. And you said we didn't know his intentions, when we did in both instances... Darkseid - termination; Desaad - BFR
Does the full power make it faster or something then?

Bed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You make this so easy.

Still only showing half of what happened in the story 😕 . Superman cheap shotted DS while he just regained his powers and getting shot with the Staff along with Superman having a Motherbox to his aid, and let alone another new god Bekka and Batman and that is who DS saw at that 'time' not knowing who else could be there WW or others DS left to regroup and plot. Superman is good at tricks and planning but DS is better, so he easily took him out not wanting to waste any more time (in countdown), he could have grown 100x bigger but didn't.