superman vs avengers/ thor vs jla

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Thor in himself is stronger than Diana, and the Mjolnir simply gives him the major edge here. Thor has feats on par with Superman, Diana has never beaten Superman and Kal El has downed Wondy like she was nothing.

There's no point in me continuing here now, as I've seen your "debating" style, and don't feel like having to explain to you why you're wrong a hundred times while you repeat the same disproved logic until the thread is closed.👆

Thor is not As strong As superman. Proven in JLA avengers. So that point doesn't hold up.

Thor isn't as fast as Superman. So how is he getting around diana's speed and shields? You can't prove that he can.

And lastly, Diana has never fought superman like she would thor. Thor is not her freind in mind control.

Unless you can refute those three facts, yout statement holds about as much water as lucifer's faucet.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Thor is not As strong As superman. Proven in JLA avengers. So that point doesn't hold up.

Thor isn't as fast as Superman. So how is he getting around diana's speed and shields? You can't prove that he can.

And lastly, Diana has never fought superman like she would thor. Thor is not her freind in mind control.

Unless you can refute those three facts, yout statement holds about as much water as lucifer's faucet.

Thor is just as fast as superman and way more powerful.

Thor might not be as fast as superman but he possess a weapon that ican pay more power then any of the blows that superman could ever dream about dishing out.

Wonder woman would get crushed by thor.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor is just as fast as superman and way more powerful.

Thor might not be as fast as superman but he possess a weapon that ican pay more power then any of the blows that superman could ever dream about dishing out.

Wonder woman would get crushed by thor.

Yes thor has a weapon. Diana has three. your point? Unless thor's hammer can crank out greater than abstract level power, he's not gettin gpast those shields. He needs speed in order to by pass the shields. hell, he's not even mobile in arial combat.

Yes, Thor is. Gladiator has feats comparable with pre crisis Supes, and Thor beat him.
If she was as fast and protected as you're under the impression she is she would never be hit, much less lose fights.

Diana has never thrown a fight with Suopes. Superman beats her because he's more powerful all around, that's a simple fact. Heck, if you want to use JLA/Avengers Supes said Thor was the strongest opponent he'd ever fought, and he's fought Wondy a few times. :/

Sorry pal, your argument falls flat on its face across the board. Now I'll leave you to your own devices, but I'm betting you'll be parroting yourself in the next few minutes.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. She wouldn't. Thor is not faster than superman. And he's not more powerful. He's more versatile.

Yes thor has a weapon. Diana has three. your point? Unless thor's hammer can crank out greater than abstract level power, he's not gettin gpast those shields. He needs speed in order to by pass the shields. hell, he's not even mobile in arial combat.

My bad, I didnt mean to post thor being as fast as superman because hes not, I was busy talking to my roommate. I meant to say thor is just as strong as superman.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Yes, Thor is. Gladiator has feats comparable with pre crisis Supes, and Thor beat him.
If she was as fast and protected as you're under the impression she is she would never be hit, much less lose fights.

Diana has never thrown a fight with Suopes. Superman beats her because he's more powerful all around, that's a simple fact. Heck, if you want to use JLA/Avengers Supes said Thor was the strongest opponent he'd ever fought, and he's fought Wondy a few times. :/

Sorry pal, your argument falls flat on its face across the board. Now I'll leave you to your own devices, but I'm betting you'll be parroting yourself in the next few minutes.

Let me let you know somethings oh dear DC hater.

Superman says, He may be the single toughest opponent i've fought. Superman has never fought Wonder Woman. Not like Him and Thor. Superman and Diana have never had one real fight. If they have, i'd like to see it. And he said single toughest. Not strongest. And he said he MAY.

Wondy gets hit becuz she can lower her power levels. She does this all of the time due to her warrior code. when she has to crank it up, she does. Stop arguing against a character of which you own ZERO comics.

You actually did say that Superman was faster.

See:

Thor might not be as fast as superman

Originally posted by carver9
My bad, I didnt mean to post thor being as fast as superman because hes not, I was busy talking to my roommate. I meant to say thor is just as strong as superman.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Thor is NOT just as strong as superman. get that fat lie out of your head.

My bad, I did mess up on my post, thor could be stronger.

Originally posted by carver9
My bad, I did mess up on my post, thor could be stronger.

Good Lord.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Good Lord.

Lol, Im going to bed, Ill debate with you all later.

I say Superman solos this Avenger team 🙂 speed blitz will take care of most of them :/

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Gladiator has feats comparable with pre crisis Supes

Originally posted by kgkg
I say Superman solos this Avenger team 🙂 speed blitz will take care of most of them :/

I hate you for this post. 😉

Both Thor and Sups loose, but the difference is that Thor would get his ass manhandle, and Superman would fall after he met Hulk and Wonderman.

superman would fair way better

Originally posted by Battlehammer
superman would fair way better

Yep

There's no one on the Avengers that could beat Supes, IMO; there are one or two people on JLA that could take Thor, or at least give him a good fight.

Meh, with CIS off for Thor, he'd destroy the JLA. Odinforce and all that.

Still, for Superman - Captain America and Ironman would be ridiculously easy fights.

And for Thor - Batman and Hawkman would be ridiculously easy fights.

Vision, Wonder Man, and Savage Hulk fighting Supes at relatively the same time would give him a lot of trouble IMO.

Wonder Woman and J'onn would give Thor quite a bit of trouble usually. With CIS off, I don't think nearly as much though.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Thor has feats on par with Superman, Diana has never beaten Superman and Kal El has downed Wondy like she was nothing.

I'm sure you have scans to back this up - not the Diana never beating Clark part, but the downing WW "like she was nothing" part. If you don't, I can't even taken you seriously.