Why is the Third World so Third World?

Started by UKR2 pages

Why is the Third World so Third World?

How'd it get all crappy like that? Plz discuss b/c I don't know how this happened. And please don't allow political correctness into any discussion. So keep your white-bashing and white guilt to yourself.

I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. I suspect you're thinking a little more specifically then your post.

Because they havn´t got any money or infrastructure, what money they do have is kept by the corrupt governments for buying whiskey and fighting wars over useless deserts.

The richer countries suck all the important minerals & oil out for a small percentage of what they sell it for, thats why they are the 1st world countries.

Survival of the fittest, and the majority of people have to be on the down end of the seesaw for others, the richer to stay on top.

yep its sad and wrong, but whats the solution?

Exploitation from richer countries.

That's not capitalism though. lookaround

It's a bit unfair to only blame richer countries for the situation.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
yep its sad and wrong, but whats the solution?

Socialism/Communism? 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Bardock42
It's a bit unfair to only blame richer countries for the situation.
Sure, war was another factor.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Sure, war was another factor.
And maybe also people there oppressing their own people?

Originally posted by Bardock42
And maybe also people there oppressing their own people?
A number of those were from western influences.

Ecuador, Panama, Iran, Iraq are examples.

There are several factors why Third World countries exist. It's not just the struggle between the capitalist and communist ideas. There is also fear....fear to speak your mind and get shot. A cruel reality...which seems to be persistent in those nations.

Originally posted by lord xyz
A number of those were from western influences.

Ecuador, Panama, Iran, Iraq are examples.

i wouldn't say Iranians were particularly oppressed...and i definitely wouldn't say they are western influenced

Well, they keep on fighting.

Originally posted by jaden101
i wouldn't say Iranians were particularly oppressed...and i definitely wouldn't say they are western influenced

prior to the revolution in 79, the leader of Iran was pro-west and supported heavily by the Americans.

During this time, the regime was very oppressive, and was such almost with the tacit compliance of Washington, given that the oil was always flowing.

I agree sort of though, and totally think XYZ would have made a way better point by talking about Chile or even the recent grain and rice import/export deals signed between the World Bank/IMF and Haiti.

Originally posted by lord xyz
A number of those were from western influences.

Ecuador, Panama, Iran, Iraq are examples.

not that you don't have a point, but it is fairly clear that were the west not investing in the third world, certain factors would be much worse, one of which, imho, is the oppression of human rights.

While Americans may create proxy dictators and financially prop up some despots, Africa, South America and Asia have had no shortage of local and domestically supported tyrants. Like, Burma with no Western oil money is probably more desperate and has more strife between government and people.

EDIT: im the DP master!

This is a dumb question. It's almost suggest, the way it is worded, that it is the fault of the third world that they are in that position.

Give a country and then it can be answered to that specific situation. Far too general otherwise.

Originally posted by jaden101
i wouldn't say Iranians were particularly oppressed...and i definitely wouldn't say they are western influenced
Iranian leaders have basically sucked the US's cock for oil.

The only one who didn't was Mossodegh, you know, the one they claimed to be a dictator that they overthrew and replaced with the Shah.

Originally posted by inimalist
not that you don't have a point, but it is fairly clear that were the west not investing in the third world, certain factors would be much worse, one of which, imho, is the oppression of human rights.

While Americans may create proxy dictators and financially prop up some despots, Africa, South America and Asia have had no shortage of local and domestically supported tyrants. Like, Burma with no Western oil money is probably more desperate and has more strife between government and people.

EDIT: im the DP master!

Can you please provide an example?

An even so, I don't know how that justifies poverty and debt, without any hope of coming out of the hole.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Iranian leaders have basically sucked the US's cock for oil.

The only one who didn't was Mossodegh, you know, the one they claimed to be a dictator that they overthrew and replaced with the Shah.

Can you please provide an example?

An even so, I don't know how that justifies poverty and debt, without any hope of coming out of the hole.

Big Stick policy

I'm being too lazy to give anything beyond Latin America.

Check out Iran-Contra. That had some interesting results for the Middle East.

I think anarchy is also a problem, as in these countries the law isn´t really enforced like it would be in 1st world countries. So gangs of thugs and mafia type´s tend to run the place.

LMFAO, 1st world countries don't have gangs and mafias and extremists groups?

Re: Why is the Third World so Third World?

Originally posted by UKR
How'd it get all crappy like that? Plz discuss b/c I don't know how this happened. And please don't allow political correctness into any discussion. So keep your white-bashing and white guilt to yourself.

Study European history and Economics from The 17th Century to 2005 you'll need to access a University Reference Library at some point.

Then Study The History of China Russia Japan and The U.S.A. from the 19th Century to 1998

When You've done that put on a blindfold, and throw a dart at a large cut out of the African Continent.

Remove the blindfold Then research the history of the target territory between the years of 1900 and 2005.