SF1 Ryu VS Rock Howard

Originally posted by Man of Violence
How? He has nothin' over Ryu. Except style...

Have you ever had the chance to control this guy?
This guy is a BEAST! Too fast and too powerful for a 2D character.
Almost too cheap to be a non-boss character.
He has the speed of Terry Bogard, and the power of Geese Howard.
He's more like Akuma of SF, who has the best balance of Ryu's power and Ken's speed.

Originally posted by Sado22
ditto. he's naturally gifted, has special bloodline,

Originally posted by Sado22
lots of power and lots of hands-on experience.

Originally posted by Sado22
he's also had a tougher life.

Originally posted by Sado22
Rock also has enough power to bring down a mansion with a move that doesn't even strike the ground like terry's

Originally posted by Sado22
heck, ryu at 33 never did anything better than that 😂

Originally posted by Sado22
power: rock
speed: rock...come and tlak when Ryu can run towards you only to do it so fast he blurs out of vision and comes right behind you
experience: rock
versitality: rock
ability: rock (no dojo dork)

Rock wins 8/10

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
He is Ryu's superior in almost every attribute, except perhaps Power.

Have you ever had the chance to control this guy?
This guy is a BEAST! Too fast and too powerful for a 2D character.
Almost too cheap to be a non-boss character.
He has the speed of Terry Bogard, and the power of Geese Howard.
He's more like Akuma of SF, who has the best balance of Ryu's power and Ken's speed.

dude, SF1 Ryu DOES NOT have a power feat. so even suggesting that he is stronger than Rock is stupid. in fact, Ryu hasn't had a power feat up until SF3:3rd strike.

Rock's power feat: bringing down a huge palace/mansion by doing his Deadly Rave, which was a stronger version of Geese's. Notice also that rock didn't do it INSIDE the mansion but outside it. what brought down the place was the IMPACT of the move. that's bloody impressive. in fact, i think that's one of the most impressive feats in SNKverse, at least for the regular cast people.

~Sado

So

So does Ryu

That doesn't make you a good fighter

WHAT, that mansion aint go down cuz of Rock's move, did it even go down?

WTF, Ryu can wreck sky scrappers wit regular special moves.

None of what you said proves he is better and the dude can only blur for 2 special moves.

that was low, man.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
dude, SF1 Ryu DOES NOT have a power feat. so even suggesting that he is stronger than Rock is stupid. in fact, Ryu hasn't had a power feat up until SF3:3rd strike.

Originally posted by Sado22
Rock's power feat: bringing down a huge palace/mansion by doing his Deadly Rave, which was a stronger version of Geese's. Notice also that rock didn't do it INSIDE the mansion but outside it. what brought down the place was the IMPACT of the move. that's bloody impressive. in fact, i think that's one of the most impressive feats in SNKverse, at least for the regular cast people.

~Sado

Let me know when you get the results. Everything Sado says has to be doublechecked. If true this also puts Rock's power feats above his mentor's. Waaay above.

that's rich coming from somebody he's been downplaying geese and anything else from FF and KoF since day one. i recall you talking about "geese falling off a building and dying" to make him look bad. oh and who downplays Ryo by saying stuff like "his projectiles can be stopped with a fist" 😂

and do you people NOT recall the falling palace at the end of virtually EVERYBODY's ending? seriously...

~Sado

That game was out like 9 years ago right?

i remember it. IIRC everyone's ending had Kain tell them to gtfo immediately or they'll die. we don't see it Rock's ending but practically EVERYONE else's ending has the place fall apart and they have to bail out.

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/neogeo/a/garourock.htm

That contradicts the shit out of what you said about Rock doing it w/the NDR.

no it doesnt. did you NOT see the palace wrecked in virtually everyone's ending? practically everyone's ending has them make it out of there in the nick of time with Kain telling them to hurry?

why not Rock's? for one, they WERE fighting outside. secondly, it was the MANSION that fell not the columnade OUTSIDE that damn mansion since it wasnt even holding up anything but statues.

~Sado

from nationmaster.com

Rock and Kain fought shortly after the conversation and Kain gained an unfair advantage with his majestic purple flames. Rock's hidden power erupted near the end of the match as Rock made nasty work out of Kain with a deadlier version of Geese's Deadly Rave. The mansion crumbled throughout the process.

also the mansion when Terry arrives in Rock's ending is pretty much dark and messed up. in places its referred to as ruins of the mansion.

~Sado

You think the process they talk of is just the NDR or the whole scrap?

just the NDR. becuase prior to thta, Rock was getting smacked around for the most part of it because Kain was too powerful.

Read that part already. Kain wasn't also doing damage to the mansion as he whooped on Rock?

true, but the only huge ass power released in the fight was from Rock. Kain wasn't trying to kill Rock because he needed him. i doubt he was going all out like Rock was. and the link i posted clearly gives credit to rock for it. they didnt' say it was something that happened overtime but only when Rock did it.

"throughout the process" seems vague, like it could mean the entire fight. Fuk it, doesn't matter to me anyway 'cuz Rock still takes this w/or w/out it. Would this power feat put him over his mentor?

Ryu training in a dojo with ken is trye, but sado forgot to mentioned they where being mentored by the then greatest martial artist on the planet - Gouken.

Originally posted by Man of Violence
But he knows how...

I aint gonna lie, I don't know shit 'bout Star Wars but it seems he can use the Dark Hadou easily if he wants to.

Like if it's a fight to the death, what's stoppin'im?

The Dark hadou tempts the user with unequaled near unlimited potential fighting energy, and the skill to defeat any opponent. But the price is incredibly high, Once you use the dark ahdou to take life, if you stain your hands with the blood of death usingh the Killing intent, then you are trapped within an endless cycle of victories, you can never know your true potential, and you only seek death in combat.

Essentially it's a Fighters curse, but the Dark Hadou has a more sinister edge to it. For those who cannot control it at will, and use it to kill reguardless of consequence, then they become maddened monsters, incapable of rational human though, all they seek is battle, and will stop at nothing to bathe in the sights and sounds of fighting and destruction.

For those like Akuma, who can utilise the Dark Hadou at will, they become no less inhuman... they become cold, detached, and although they seek out battle, they do it in a cold- calculating and methodical way, seeking out only the worthy, looking for the one who can kill them and set them free from mortality.

So you see, they con's far surpass the pro's of the Dark Hadou, even it's current master (Akuma/Gouki) seeks death in battle to end the curse.