Originally posted by carver9
and this is the wolverine that let himself get caught on fire by some soldiers smiling the entire time and didnt run for water but basically let the fire go out itself. This is the wolverine that got hit by a nuke in the chest and got back up a couple of panels later. Wolverine is a bad ass and his healing factor is comparable to the hulks and his speed is comparable to spiderman. I cant see orion taking this with ease, especially against a guy that has slapped bullets out of the air without a problem.
you missed the point.
Originally posted by carver9
I never said that he could beat him, I said comp.
i know.
Originally posted by Raoul
you missed the point.i know.
I didnt miss the point, I get what you were saying and again I never said that wolverine could beat orion, Im just basing my judgement off of orion being a brick without his gear and wolverine having comparable speed feats and is basically built to fight bricks.
I give orion 10/10 against wolverine but I just dont think that it would be as easy as people make it.
Originally posted by carver9
I didnt miss the point, I get what you were saying and again I never said that wolverine could beat orion, Im just basing my judgement off of orion being a brick without his gear and wolverine having comparable speed feats and is basically built to fight bricks.I give orion 10/10 against wolverine but I just dont think that it would be as easy as people make it.
your post just then proves to me that you missed my point. now, that could be my fault, and if so, i apologise for not being clearer...
Originally posted by carver9did you see how easily sentry beat wolverine in hand-to-hand, sentry didnt even use his super speed, against orion. normal wolverine would be defeated easily.
I didnt miss the point, I get what you were saying and again I never said that wolverine could beat orion, Im just basing my judgement off of orion being a brick without his gear and wolverine having comparable speed feats and is basically built to fight bricks.I give orion 10/10 against wolverine but I just dont think that it would be as easy as people make it.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
did you see how easily sentry beat wolverine in hand-to-hand, sentry didnt even use his super speed, against orion. normal wolverine would be defeated easily.
Sentry also has a bio force field around his body like superman does. Orion doesnt have that same luxury. Sentry would have been carved up without it.
Orion has been damaged by much less then adamantium claws. I know that wolverine would lose against orion but I know that wolverine could carve him up also and go down fighting.
Answer this, without orion using none of his tools, what is his best speed feat. Has he slapped bullets out of the air or dodge lasers point blank before. Again Im asking without his tools.
Originally posted by carver9
Sentry also has a bio force field around his body like superman does. Orion doesnt have that same luxury. Sentry would have been carved up without it.Orion has been damaged by much less then adamantium claws. I know that wolverine would lose against orion but I know that wolverine could carve him up also and go down fighting.
Answer this, without orion using none of his tools, what is his best speed feat. Has he slapped bullets out of the air or dodge lasers point blank before. Again Im asking without his tools.
Wolverine would mutilate Orion in this scenario.
The challenge of hth combat, would play to Wolverines favor, since he'd be low class 100 with a hf and cut nearly anything claws.
Orion would be hardpressed to put him down without going to the trick bag.
Now, he goes serious from jump with the af, and he wins.
Originally posted by UniOmniat the best for wolvie it would be a stalemate. Orion has a healing factor akin to wolvie and the hulk.
Wolverine would mutilate Orion in this scenario.The challenge of hth combat, would play to Wolverines favor, since he'd be low class 100 with a hf and cut nearly anything claws.
Orion would be hardpressed to put him down without going to the trick bag.
Now, he goes serious from jump with the af, and he wins.