Originally posted by HandOfFate
Iron Man does possess psi-shielding in some versions of his armor. IIRC, the shielding actually helped him defeat Mentallo, when he tried to take over the world using a machine that increase his natural telepathy.Now if the sheilding is powerful enough to stop Nate is another question.
Ah that鈥檚 helpful, although Nate is a powerful psi his control over his abilities are not up to par. For example, Nate nearly killed himself trying to erase the memories of all the inhabitants in New York City. He never finished the feat, so we are un-aware if he can do so.
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Keeping this in mind, and using Mentallo our means to gouage X-Man. Do you think Ironman Psi shielding can with stand X-Mans?
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Surprisingly. No Nate didn鈥檛 beat Exodus with regular attacks. Exodus had become a severely weaken vampiric like psionic leach. And yet Nate had no answer for Exodus. So Exodus tried to absorb Nates power, and realized it was to much for him to handle in which Exodus overloaded himself. If Exodus wanst so power hungry, he would have won his match with Nate Grey.
Anymore questions?
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Depends on the armor. I haven't seen it come up specifically in Extremis though, so we're not really sure if he does (to my knowledge, which is competent on Tony but not entirely comprehensive)
So Tony has no answer for TP. This is odd? I would have sworn I brought this up in our match and you deliberately claim he had such protection.
Digi you wouldn鈥檛 lie or make up claims would you?
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Just wanted the question answered, since no one had addressed it. I'm letting others play this out, since I already faced you and don't really wish you ill-will. I think he should be banned, but if you can convince us/delph/etc. that he's ok, then more power to you.
Ah I see. Well if members are unaware of what happened in Exodus vs. X-Man fight.
Second page in the X-Man respect thread, the link is conveniently placed in my sig. Or X-Man #14.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
But you see, Exodus was severly weakened, he was reduced to a power leech during that arc. And both Mr. Sinister and Emma Frost have made X-Man look like a chump for all his raw power he never truly focused it until his Shaman days.
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Originally posted by Scoobless
HOF already pointed out the mentallo issue where his TP protection saved the day for him.
Yes but I am coming back, to the question if the Extremis exhibits such protection.
Originally posted by id369
Ah I see. Well if members are unaware of what happened in Exodus vs. X-Man fight.
Second page in the X-Man respect thread, the link is conveniently placed in my sig. Or X-Man #14.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/newreply.php?s=&action=postid=11269730
Yes but I am coming back, to the question if the Extremis exhibits such protection.
IRRC the Iron Man from the Heroes Reborn Universe had TK protection but Jean almost broke it with a small blast.
I'll address the Nate thing in the tourney thread.
I assume this was Extremis. And it seems the Extremis has no formal TP nor TK protection. Tony would have to seek out variations of his Ironman suits, to comply with TP/TK protection. Am I right so far?
However I was told differently in my match with Digi. At least in regards towards TP, that Tony in the Extremis has effective protection against TP attacks.
Can anybody sort out this mess for me. I have read Ironman V4 up to issue 31. Personally I have not seen any formal evidence to point out he has, such defenses. Can anyone educate me or confirm this for me? If so, would you kindly post a scan or point out an issue for me to look?
Thanks advance - Id
Originally posted by Scoobless
You mean "what if Tony forgot to add psi-protection to his new armour even though he has stated quite a few times that he has developed defences against mental takeover?"It's in there.
Yes I asked a vary specific question. And now with your reply I am getting it. Would you kindly point out the issue in which this is stated?
Originally posted by id369
So Tony has no answer for TP. This is odd? I would have sworn I brought this up in our match and you deliberately claim he had such protection.Digi you wouldn鈥檛 lie or make up claims would you?
I'm trying to be as ambivalent toward this situation as possible. The veiled accusations are a bit low, dude.
I never showed a scan that deliberately said he had tp defense. I only showed that even subatomic particles couldn't enter his armor without permission, and said that it would block telepathic intrusions simply because it was sealed from anything at all. Whether or not this would actually work was for the judges to decide. I think it would, personally, but it's up for discussion I suppose. In any case, rhetorical questions intended as barbs aren't called for, especially when it's a false accusation.
Well I am not trying to be ambivalent at all. I want answers as much as you do. However when a member claims he has X feat, and I am told otherwise. Then I call it how it is.
I was told Extremis has TP protection based on this. Ok was I lied to, or miss lead? I mean if he has this sub-atomic particle protection, would that protect him against TK as well.
Now moving on, since Ironman has an armor that seals off anything up to subatomic particles. Is it enough to warrant, TP or TK protection?
Originally posted by id369
Well I am not trying to be ambivalent at all. I want answers as much as you do. However when a member claims he has X feat, and I am told otherwise. Then I call it how it is.I was told Extremis has TP protection based on this. Ok was I lied to, or miss lead? I mean if he has this sub-atomic particle protection, would that protect him against TK as well.
Now moving on, since Ironman has an armor that seals off anything up to subatomic particles. Is it enough to warrant, TP or TK protection?
You weren't misled. You were told subatomic particles couldn't invade his armor. That's true. Don't try to make it more than it is. I used that to say he was likely tp resistant, but it was never something I stated beyond a reasonable opinion. It was up to the judges to decide.
And of course you aren't ambivalent here. You have a particular stake in this. Doesn't mean you need to go around attacking the credibility of others though.
TK could bludgeon the armor from the outside, thus opening it. The sealed-from-anything bit doesn't apply to tk, since it can't stop external tk from batting him around. Once open, Tony has been shown to be affected by tp. So yeah, Nate wins.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
You weren't misled. You were told subatomic particles couldn't invade his armor. That's true. Don't try to make it more than it is. I used that to say he was likely tp resistant, but it was never something I stated beyond a reasonable opinion. It was up to the judges to decide.And of course you aren't ambivalent here. You have a particular stake in this. Doesn't mean you need to go around attacking the credibility of others though.
TK could bludgeon the armor from the outside, thus opening it. The sealed-from-anything bit doesn't apply to tk, since it can't stop external tk from batting him around. Once open, Tony has been shown to be affected by tp. So yeah, Nate wins.
Do you have short term memory as well? So you never deliberately claimed so? Here let me quote you, word for word.
Tony can neutralize all of their tp/tk/technopathy in the opening pico-seconds of the fight.. If that doesn't kill their last hope, I don't know what will.
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I feel miss lead. When I feel misleaded, I call members out. If you find what I am saying, offensive, and unjustified. Then Ban me, for trolling. Hell I don鈥檛 even want to know your opinion, in regards to TP/TK protection in regards to Ironman. I am asking other members, to speak out. I had enough of you.
Ha. That was a different point entirely. You were using a tech-based source to enhance your tk and tp skills. I was simply using Tony's frequency-blocking skills to negate the tech power-up, since it would have had to relay to your team on a specific channel to enhance Cable's skills through his implants and such...but I wasn't using it to block the tk and tp specifically.
So you only posted part of the quote, the part that seems to support you but is out of context.
Now who's being misleading?
Not really, we never used formal TK, just simulated TK. And we where applying both Spawns TP and our tech Technopathy. And we never relied on implants to enhance鈥nything. That鈥檚 just bloated misinterpreted BS, put together by you.
But that is besides the point Digi. You made claims addressing TK/TP/Technopathy. Using that vary scan. Because of it, and seeing how now you go back and forth in your claims. I really don鈥檛 want to know, what your bias opinion are.
So you know I am serious, don鈥檛 expect me to reply to you any farther in this thread.
Wow. So you're deciding to be a jerk instead of listening to me, eh?
I misunderstood how you were using Cable's powers then. Honest mistake. As it stands, I never made the claim that he directly blocks tp/tk. I formed what I thought was an effective counter to it, but never said what you're claiming, and never intended to be deceitful.
You could choose to see that for the truth that it is, and we could be ok with one another. Or you could color it with your own interpretations and see whatever you want to justify your misplaced anger. I'm sorry that you're choosing the latter, but I can't be responsible for how my words are taken...I can only deal with their original intent, which was never intended as deceit.
I'm not rooting for you to get Nate anymore, even if you're right. You're handling this situation very poorly. I was never "against" you, just wanted the truth, and you made it personal based on false assumptions and refusing to listen to anything but your own thoughts.
So other then this scan.
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Is their any formal evidence, that implies Tony in the Extremis can neutralize, counter, or protect himself from Psi base attacks. Let it be of TK, or TP nature.
That isn't evidence for it. I wasn't using that scan to say he blocks tp/tk, only that he can block electronic frequencies (since I thought you were receiving the upgrade from an outside electronic source), despite what you're trying to impose upon my words. I don't appreciate being told how my words and arguments were intended, especially when I have explained why you were incorrect in my intent.
