Originally posted by occultdestroyerWell Enyalus seems to think pieces of concrete>Firestorm. So by his way of thinking, beating 'storm while weak, using only your breath.... isn't that impressive (laughable, I know.)
Even in a weakened state, Supes 1M is still more powerful than FS. What's not to brag about?
Originally posted by EnyalusForgot about this post...
His HV blasted a hole right through the Guardian's shields and body. I'd assume it killed him.
Anyhow, I don't remember anything of the sort. The closest thing I recall is Prime's HV striking the shoulder area of a Guardian, but it did not pierce through his person:
That was obviously not the proverbial 'killing blow' you're referencing...
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The only Guardian I remember 'dying' was the one who sacrificed himself in order to rid the universe of Prime:
Originally posted by Merlyn
Well Enyalus seems to think pieces of concrete>Firestorm. So by his way of thinking, beating 'storm while weak, using only your breath.... isn't that impressive (laughable, I know.)
See Trinity #3 (or maybe 4?) for what I'm talking about. It's called a low-showing. Everyone has them. Everyone said it was a low showing when he was taken out by Konvikt like that. Why isn't it a low showing when Superman does it to him? Moreover, FS hadn't even started fighting yet. And since he was coming into conflict with a Superman, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have been going all out, anyway.
Anyhow, yes, 1M is pretty uber. He can even simulate the effects of a GL's ring, which I think is pretty cool. And he'd certainly beat IC Prime....but to me, SC Prime was far above his younger self and had that solar suit (which would process sunlight at, probably, a more efficient rate than 1M) which boosted his power. He again wrecked whole teams, took on Guardians and entire corps of GLs and SCs. So, I wouldn't give 1M the win over him in that incarnation, because he's shown nothing even close to deserving it.
And Guardian amped Prime was even more superior, whatwith owning several Supermen and JLA squads with absolute ease. And - basically - stalemating Monarch.
(Hey Galan, that first scan was what I was talking about. My bad on that point.)
Originally posted by EnyalusThough I disagree with most of your opinions (😛)... I really disagree with this one... Why?
SC Prime was far above his younger self and had that solar suit (which would process sunlight at, probably, a more efficient rate than 1M)
Because M* was tapping the final stores of solar energy in his cells when he punched through time. In so doing, M* came as close to death as one can get:
Yet upon punching through to his time [and returning to the Super-sun's light], any and all damage M* had received was healed almost instantly. IMO, that shows far greater solar absorption than Prime has ever displayed.
Having said that, one must pose the question... If damage at that level can be healed almost instantly [under the Super-sun] how can Prime hope to generate any lasting injuries to M*?
Originally posted by EnyalusCool. 🙂
(Hey Galan, that first scan was what I was talking about. My bad on that point.)
Originally posted by Galan007
Though I disagree with most of your opinions (😛)... I really disagree with this one... Why?Because M* was tapping the final stores of solar energy in his cells when he punched through time. In so doing, M* came as close to death as one can get:
Yet upon punching through to his time [and returning to the Super-sun's light], any and all damage M* had received was healed almost instantly. IMO, that shows far greater solar absorption than Prime has ever displayed.
Having said that, one must pose the question... If damage at that level can be healed almost instantly [under the Super-sun] how can Prime hope to generate any lasting injuries to M*?
Heh. You know, I never gave that any thought. He did regenerate all of that damage instantly. Anything short of vaporization (such as Solaris might be able to do), might not put him down.
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Erm, I may have to rethink my stance. 😛
Originally posted by EnyalusCorrect. And to my knowledge, said vaporization is not something Prime is capable of dealing.
Heh. You know, I never gave that any thought. He did regenerate all of that damage instantly. Anything short of vaporization (such as Solaris might be able to do), might not put him down.
Originally posted by Enyalus👆
Erm, I may have to rethink my stance. 😛
