Gaara at wich stage of transformation? Unless its the last one, i see Asuma having all the shots.
Better than Naruto did, anyway. Unless you want to tell us that pre skip Naruto, without using the nine tails chakra, is better than Asuma too. Wouldnt surprise me the least.
Even Kazagage Gaara wouldnt be a sure win, since Asuma can trow his knifes at a distance, and i dont think his sand shield is enough to totally hold off against the Hien.
Hes got a much better shot against the Jounin level for sure.
Originally posted by Wil7
To me, any Gaara would win with ease because if it was genin gaara, he would use sand tsunami, and the same with kazekage gaara.
You just need to prove that the sand defence of a genin is sturdy enough to stop a jutsu that easily pierces thro wood and rock, when the user in question isent even trying.
Asuma is also faster than any genin we saw, close range or not.
Genin Gaara loses. Only shot hes got, is if he transforms at 100%, since it took Naruto the nine tails chakra and the Frog summon to take him on. Anything less than that, and Gaara wont do crap. Heck, in mid transformation, Naruto still injured him.
Kaekage Gaara will have a better shot, definatly. But still not an automatic win.
Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
"Throw his knives"?Get the **** out. Kazekage Gaara would probably win at least 8/10 times.
His sand defence is sturdier than both wood AND rock?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/317/15/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/317/15/
Because as shown, Asuma can pierce these even from a distance, while holding back most of his strength.
Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Yes.
Explain, where you saw it and how you came to that conclusion.
Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Prove he was holding back any of his strength.
I actually made a mistake, and linked the same page twice, above.
Anyway, here is the full sequence:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/317/15/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/317/16/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/317/17/
I think this answers your question.
I think you need to prove me where does Gaara defence`s can take something that easily cuts wood and rock in the same move, even with the user in question is holding back his strength. And this done by someone in blitz mode, like Asuma has done.
Now, we know standart Genin Gaara wouldnt matter here, since an elite Jounin is faster than that. So the discussion is more towards Kazekaze Gaara.
Links?
Originally posted by olympian
I think you need to prove me where does Gaara defence`s can take something that easily cuts wood and rock in the same move, even with the user in question is holding back his strength. And this done by someone in blitz mode, like Asuma has done.Now, we know standart Genin Gaara wouldnt matter here, since an elite Jounin is faster than that. So the discussion is more towards Kazekaze Gaara.
Links?
Gaara's sand has blocked worse stuff than Asuma's little thing. Ex: Explosions of Deidara's.
It doesn't matter which Gaara, the outcome would be the same, with sand tsunami.
You are comparing an explosion type jutsu, to a piercing jutsu?
It didnt do well against that ligthing technique...what was it called? Chidori? And what does the Manga claim? Wind > Ligthing in piercing ability? Ah yes.
I guess with you, i need to be more precise. Since the Hien is a piercing kind of jutsu, what has Gaara defended against, that was BETTER than the Hien in that regard, and couldnt even cut his defense?
Originally posted by olympianPre-Shippuden yeah, and Chidori>Asuma's Trench Knives. 😬
And yet Chidori can overcome his defenses.You are talking about blunt damage, im talking about piercing damage. The Hien doesnt explode, it cuts.
And they have been shown to cut through boulders, whereas Gaara can harden his sand hard as any mineral.