Superman vs Thanos (Twist)

Started by Juntai7 pages

Originally posted by Enyalus
Yeah, I read the Dominus arc. Superman was sorely outclassed until using T-Vo.

Dominus seemed to be far more mentally weak than Thanos is, though.

Dominus > Thanos.

Originally posted by Juntai
Dominus > Thanos.

I agree. 😛 The same Dominus who nearly killed Kismet and practically reduced Superman to tears after using matter manipulation on him to make his body look like water, lol. Oh yeah, and he had his own dimension.

Still, mentally, he seemed pretty unstable.

Originally posted by Enyalus
That would make every time he was KO'd in the PC era (a ton of times) a PIS event. No one, logically, should be able to punch him. He's faster than Flash. No one should be able to hit him with energy blasts, either. I call it CIS, instead. Which should be allowed.
Once again, Superman's showing support him being able to dodge such.

If your whole arguement is going to be logjammed in CIS and PIS, you've already lost the debate.

PC Superman's power output here would be too much for Thanos. Superman doing a hearty laugh can shake tectonic plates like World War Hulk, let alone actually being in a full offensive and determined mode.

Thanos is out of his class here.

Originally posted by Juntai
Once again, Superman's showing support him being able to dodge such.

If your whole arguement is going to be logjammed in CIS and PIS, you've already lost the debate.

PC Superman's power output here would be too much for Thanos. Superman doing a hearty laugh can shake tectonic plates like World War Hulk, let alone actually being in a full offensive and determined mode.

Thanos is out of his class here.

No it's you who have lost Juntai... You decide to take all showings like the one mentioned and chalk it up to PIS. That isn't how you debate because it is afterall on panel proof. You could say ever loss that a character has is due to PIS or CIS and thus they never lost because it was all for the sake of the story. Do you see how dangerous and ridiculous that is? Fact is, there are times when logic needs to be used but to say ooo that is just PIS and doesn't count and so are all the other times PC Supes was KO'd because he should be way beyond that. Well that fails miserably

*Sigh*

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No it's you who have lost Juntai... You decide to take all showings like the one mentioned and chalk it up to PIS. That isn't how you debate because it is afterall on panel proof. You could say ever loss that a character has is due to PIS or CIS and thus they never lost because it was all for the sake of the story. Do you see how dangerous and ridiculous that is? Fact is, there are times when logic needs to be used but to say ooo that is just PIS and doesn't count and so are all the other times PC Supes was KO'd because he should be way beyond that. Well that fails miserably
Once again, if he has proved previously time and again, that he can do such a task, why would someone focus on one time he didn't, and use it as a base of his arguement? It creates a logjam, where I say, Superman can dodge that, or re-direct it, or or smash it, his powers are capable of such, or has proved he can. And someone hangs on to the time he didn't. Trying to hang on to a low showing as such, while disregarding the fact that PC Superman is clearly too powerful offensively for Thanos, is no way to win a debate. Superman could breath Thanos out of the Galaxy. The wind from short clap his hands could destroy a world.

Originally posted by Juntai
Once again, if he has proved previously time and again, that he can do such a task, why would someone focus on one time he didn't, and use it as a base of his arguement? It creates a logjam, where I say, Superman can dodge that, or re-direct it, or or smash it, his powers are capable of such, or has proved he can. And someone hangs on to the time he didn't. Trying to hang on to a low showing as such, while disregarding the fact that PC Superman is clearly too powerful offensively for Thanos, is no way to win a debate. Superman could breath Thanos out of the Galaxy. A short clap his hands could destroy a world.

There isn't just one showing Juntai that's is the problem. Your saying that is the only time where he was knocked out or handled? I think not he's been knocked out countless times. So, are you chalking all those up to PIS and CIS as well? Fact is, I agree with what your saying to a degree as some logic and respect needs to be used when looking at high feats and low feats. To discredit things and chalk it up to PIS for all the low showings you could turn aroudn and say all that he accomplished was really PIS and for the sake of a story. So, tell me... You don't think Thanos could win a mind battle with Supes?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
There isn't just one showing Juntai that's is the problem. Your saying that is the only time where he was knocked out or handled? I think not he's been knocked out countless times. So, are you chalking all those up to PIS and CIS as well? Fact is, I agree with what your saying to a degree as some logic and respect needs to be used when looking at high feats and low feats. To discredit things and chalk it up to PIS for all the low showings you could turn aroudn and say all that he accomplished was really PIS and for the sake of a story. So, tell me... You don't think Thanos could win a mind battle with Supes?
Nope, but I also don't see the battle coming to that at all. One shot from Supes could potentially end this fight. Send Thanos hurling across the galaxy/universe, or falling through time. How long could Thanos avoid him?
Superman's power output here is much closer to Galactus, than someone on Thanos level. A small blast from Galactus had Thanos pretty much begging for mercy.

No...Galactus had to exert himself in order to break Thanos' forcefield. One of them. He said so on panel.

As far as I know, CIS is allowed unless otherwise specified. PC Supes' low showings, him being knocked out easily, etc, are just that - CIS. Not PIS. That he doesn't decide to dodge everything thrown at him or vibrate between punches, etc, is character stupidity. And he has plenty of low showings, whereas Thanos has none. (Except for Squirrel Girl, but that was probably a clone.)

EDIT: I hope Avlon might be able to clear this up, because I don't have the issue - but I was under the impression that the issue where he sneezed the solar system apart that he had gotten some kind of pixie dust amp beforehand.

Originally posted by Enyalus
No...Galactus had to exert himself in order to break Thanos' forcefield. One of them. He said so on panel.

As far as I know, CIS is allowed unless otherwise specified. PC Supes' low showings, him being knocked out easily, etc, are just that - CIS. Not PIS. That he doesn't decide to dodge everything thrown at him or vibrate between punches, etc, is character stupidity. And he has plenty of low showings, whereas Thanos has none. (Except for Squirrel Girl, but that was probably a clone.)

EDIT: I hope Avlon might be able to clear this up, because I don't have the issue - but I was under the impression that the issue where he sneezed the solar system apart that he had gotten some kind of pixie dust amp beforehand.

One? Doesn't Thanos himself state that he's activating all defensive shielding shortly before Galactus blasts him?

Hangin' out with Quanchi does that.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Courtesy of Galan:

Amazo one-shotting PC Supes with a scrawny-ass GL beam:

Granted, that blast did knock Supes back... but how is that a low showing? Amazo was utilizing a pre-crisis GL's powers, there...

Originally posted by Harbinger
One? Doesn't Thanos himself state that he's activating all defensive shielding shortly before Galactus blasts him?

He does. And Galactus says 'a mere forcefield,' which indicates one.

Originally posted by Galan007
Granted, that blast did knock Supes back... but how is that a low showing? Amazo was utilizing a pre-crisis GL's powers, there...

I, personally, wouldn't call it that. But according to some in this thread, anytime PC Supes gets tagged it's PIS/low showing. Sure, I know PC GL rings are powerful. But more powerful than the energy blasts Thanos dishes out? No.

Originally posted by Galan007
Granted, that blast did knock Supes back... but how is that a low showing? Amazo was utilizing a pre-crisis GL's powers, there...

You forget, Thanos>DCU...at least according to Quan and his aborted fetus enyalus.

Jesus facepalm

Originally posted by Harbinger
Jesus facepalm

And Jehovah. Let's give Jews some love, too.

Anywho, Thanos energy blast > GL energy blast, for anyone with any sense at all.

PC GL energ blast from Amazo>>>Thanos

Originally posted by The Great Galen
PC GL energ blast from Amazo>>>Thanos

Doesn't matter who its from. It's a PC GL blast. That's it. Thanos' energy blast overpowered the Maker, who just so happens to have an infinite amount of power at her disposal. His blast is more powerful. PC Supes gets KO'd too easily. Thanos' durability is insane enough to walk through a Gugnir-focused blast from Odin.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4512650

Supes can't put him down. And all Thanos needs is a few good shots, or simply trick Superman into doing something stupid - which is quite possible.

Pre Crisis Superman is was so ill defined that threads like this one shouldn't exist. No offense intended to the thread starter.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Doesn't matter who its from. It's a PC GL blast.
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