Originally posted by Enyalus
Yes. All of what I've said has already been done.Thanos used matter manipulation on those people. He turned Thor, a god, into glass and shattered him. He turned adamantium, hardest and most unbreakable substance in the MU into rubber. His energy blasts were so powerful they vaporized Quasar's Quantum Bands and melted his hands. Superman would be fare no better.
That's not Superman. Matter transmutation, of even the magic kind, he has shrugged off, often with minor difficulties, even from skyfathers and higher. The only person who comes to mind that has truly achieved it an acknowledable extent, and not only was that post-crisis, but it was Azmodel as the host of the Spectre. If you want to try to compare Thanos to Spectre, be my guest and set up a thread.
Sure it will. For a second or two.
No, it won't.
Sure it would, especially when he's been turned into plastic, or shattered glass, or LEGO blocks.
Covered already.
Did you read my post at all?
I read, I replied.
I said after he's turned into plastic. But that's okay, because even if Thanos doesn't want to do that, he can simply send him to the end of time and let Entropy eat him.
You mean, in the case that Superman suddenly forgot that he's a time traveler?
Right. Superman's mind suddenly is superior to Thanos'? Try again. Thanos' telepathy is worlds beyond what Superman would be able to counter.
Untrue. Superman's willpower even the Guardians claimed to be the greatest in the universe. Before they realised his potential as Superman, they wanted him to lead their Green Lantern Corp as the greatest it would ever know.
Pre-Crisis Superman also showed the ability to backlash mental powers back at their user. I'll attempt to get the scan if I feel ambitious enough.
Thanos used the Power Gem alone for half of one issue. PC Supes had a quarter of a century's worth of issues to develop his feats. We already know he can destroy planets with ease, considering he wasn't bothered by Celestials throwing them at him. And Champion one-shotted a planet. Thanos has far more control over the gem than he did - as evidenced by the scans I provided. He can do far worse. Like shattering vibranium. And the whole Superman/Supergirl thing, is a traveling speed feat. We don't count that in a battle. Not that it matters - because with the Space Gem Thanos can be anywhere and everywhere at once.
This wasn't a reply to me, but I'll take initiative and cover it anwyays. It doesn't count in close quarters sure, but his speed certainly counts overall. Getting from point A to point B is always a factor. I like how we're going back to leaning on the space gem in the debate now though, because we realise how much the power gem showings are failing next to Superman's, and how much he needs the space gem to contend here. Coming from the guy who said;
Originally posted by Enyalus
Anywho, he beats PC Supes with just the PG.
lol.
Next?
He was amped for the solar system feat.
Says who? He caught a cold via magic, because he's otherwise immune to cold and disease. Superman has feats blowing around giant stars and planets with his breath outside of that showing anyways, without effort. Try again.
Darkseid has physically dominated him before. As have plenty of others. Thanos with the PG is beyond them. Remember when Darkseid grabbed PC Supes by the throat without Supes even seeing him move? With the SG Thanos can easily duplicate that feat. Grabs him by the throat and reduces him to dust like so:http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/The_Infinity_Gauntlet_04-38.jpg
lol. You see the scan I posted of that guy that hit Superman with the force of a hundred galaxies? He's a bug next to PC Darkseid.
That team wouldn't have even lasted that long against PC Darkseid.
It's an easy win for Thanos. With numerous ways for him to achieve it. [/B]
Could be, I never said Superman wins. I've just been debating, and winning, which is clear from your debating methods. 1) The way I'm getting you to double back on debating points- for example; how you started saying he won't need the space gem, then going right back to using the space gem in your reply. Or for another example; how you said he'd kill Superman in one shot. And 2) Starting to wildly claim events and applications on Superman's character without proving said applications. Thanos having higher willpower, Thanos being able to do this or that.
Try to reply to this without wildly running off on tangents or doubling back on your aguements, because it's entirely true.
Originally posted by Juntai
Thanos suffered a flash knockout from Thor in the scans posted a page ago. Enough for Doom to rush in and start trying to wrestle the glove from his hand. In fact, he was battered around quite a bit through that encounter.None of those characters possess Superman's speed strength, or offensive output in general. Not one of them.
Superman starts to think he might be in trouble, when he gets hit with the force of a hundred galaxies.
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