Wolverine vs Sebastian Shaw

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
I think its safe to say that he didn't want X to do something good for the benefit of mankind.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
X didn't know Claudine was there so he can't obviously defend himself against a surprise attack which was proven so yeah he was in danger, if he didn't think he could ever be in danger then he wouldn't have warned X to leave if something goes down and then make the same claim when shit does go down.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
I don't think that X went through the door that he Shaw came out of, I think he went to an entirely different room/part of his property.

Its good to know that I'm not worth the effort for you to sound/seem intelligent and have more than 3rd grade level grammar.

so your entire arguements foolish. If Logan ran shaw would have fallowed.......Logan clearly fought and defeated him which is why shaw make it there.........and which is why Logan has ripps in his suit he did not have before and is also why Logan cut out the lights inorder toi give him selof the advantage.

If you think so and being intellegent and seeming so are not that same thing.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
..........yes, but that gives Logan no reason to assume he need Logans help they werent going to a picknick after all. X knows the risks and wolverine knows he can handle him self.

...........x knew there was a telepath there.........he even states so to Logan.........

does not matter.........shaw knows were claudine is he have no trouble going there at all........only the lights out side were cut not the ones inside..........

so your entire arguements foolish. If Logan ran shaw would have fallowed.......Logan clearly fought and defeated him which is why shaw make it there.........and which is why Logan has ripps in his suit he did not have before and is also why Logan cut out the lights inorder toi give him selof the advantage.

If you think so and being intellegent and seeming so are not that same thing.

If he knew he could handle himself then why would he tell him to run? that makes no sense. He said don't argue with me just run if I say so.

So X knew someone else was there and still got caught off guard and beat? So what does that say about Wolverine's judgment of character and ability?

I think that they were outside until X walked in the room which means that it would be hard to see where you are going even if you are at home.

Good to know seeing as you have yet to show either.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
If he knew he could handle himself then why would he tell him to run? that makes no sense. He said don't argue with me just run if I say so.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
So X knew someone else was there and still got caught off guard and beat? So what does that say about Wolverine's judgment of character and ability?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
I think that they were outside until X walked in the room which means that it would be hard to see where you are going even if you are at home.

Good to know seeing as you have yet to show either.

I not sure what your not crasping here...........

says the man that thinks shaw unitterupted could not find his way back into his home from 30 feet away in darkness.........

Originally posted by Battlehammer
when did he say that again? Im not seeing it.

have you even read the issue? clearly you have not............X never got beat..........he won........he however trigger the mental block in daken mind which had trigger mental type assault which attack him. It had nothing to do with shaw or his telepath..........

...............the lights inside the house still work...........and shaw was at best 30 feet away..........he have no trouble getting back into his house.......unless some one prevented in............like the man fighting him..........

I not sure what your not crasping here...........

says the man that thinks shaw unitterupted could not find his way back into his home from 30 feet away in darkness.........

Told him to keep going and don't look back in the first scan.

Yeah X was the winner seeing as he was on the ground helpless.

You're right, I'm not crasping anything seeing as I don't know what crasp means.

Says the man who thinks Wolverine had enough time to fight him, overload him and then save X before he died. Why didn't Wolverine just say "I can overload you and win" or why didn't he do it when the lights were on unless Shaw is also a better fighter than he is?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Told him to keep going and don't look back in the first scan.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Yeah X was the winner seeing as he was on the ground helpless.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Says the man who thinks Wolverine had enough time to fight him, overload him and then save X before he died. Why didn't Wolverine just say "I can overload you and win" or why didn't he do it when the lights were on unless Shaw is also a better fighter than he is?

we have no idea how Long x was in daken mind or how long his fight with miss sinster was. Logan likly had plenty of time. Logan had no reason to believe x could not defeat another telepath........seeing as how x is the best telepath on the planet............

why would Logan tell sahw what he plan to do?

........he could not do it in a straight fight because shaw to powerful. He grows faster and stronger. Logan needed to shift the battle field in his favor. By making shaw unable to see it gave him a hgue advantage, becuases even though shaw becames stronjger and faster he can't beat what he can't hit. Logan could keeping land successiveful hits while recieving far less counter acts landing on himself.

In the preview art for Origins 30, Wolverine tells Daken that he is no match for him, Daken says something like "Big words from someone who looks like he just got his ass kicked," and Wolverine nonchalantly says "This isn't my blood."

Wolverine didn't run from Shaw, that should be painfully obvious, even if you didn't read the preview pages, by their exchange when Wolverine cut the power...

The only way Wolverine wins this is if they fight in a freezer, and that's if Shaw still possesses that particular weakness still.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
In the preview art for Origins 30, Wolverine tells Daken that he is no match for him, Daken says something like "Big words from someone who looks like he just got his ass kicked," and Wolverine nonchalantly says "This isn't my blood."

Wolverine didn't run from Shaw, that should be painfully obvious, even if you didn't read the preview pages, by their exchange when Wolverine cut the power...

Yet the blood in the pic Guy posted showed it coming from a cut and his mouth.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
............so..........thats not telling him to run that telling him to complete his objective and not worry about (Logan). In no way is that telling him to run away.

........go read the issue before speaking. He neevr got beat. He trigger a trap set in daken mind by romulas/weapon x.........who suposes to be an apoc level threat.
It had nothing to do with shaw or his telepath.

.........now your jsut being foolish.

we have no idea how Long x was in daken mind or how long his fight with miss sinster was. Logan likly had plenty of time. Logan had no reason to believe x could not defeat another telepath........seeing as how x is the best telepath on the planet............

why would Logan tell sahw what he plan to do?

........he could not do it in a straight fight because shaw to powerful. He grows faster and stronger. Logan needed to shift the battle field in his favor. By making shaw unable to see it gave him a hgue advantage, becuases even though shaw becames stronjger and faster he can't beat what he can't hit. Logan could keeping land successiveful hits while recieving far less counter acts landing on himself.

Shaw easily.

Logan couldn't beat him straight up so he resorted to bullsh!t and tricks.

Unless they fight in a pitch black room it looks like Shaw'll take it.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Logan couldn't beat him straight up so he resorted to bullsh!t and tricks.

Wouldn't really call it bull, a trick yes, but if Superman came to your house right now bloodlusted and slapped you around a bit. You then find an uzi loaded with kryptonite bullets would you not shoot him?

Wolverine was godamm lucky Shaw allowed him to reach the lights imo.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Wouldn't really call it bull, a trick yes, but if Superman came to your house right now bloodlusted and slapped you around a bit. You then find an uzi loaded with kryptonite bullets would you not shoot him?

Worst analogy ever.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Wouldn't really call it bull, a trick yes, but if Superman came to your house right now bloodlusted and slapped you around a bit. You then find an uzi loaded with kryptonite bullets would you not shoot him?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Yet the blood in the pic Guy posted showed it coming from a cut and his mouth.

Originally posted by godking
So Wolverine hides in the Shadows and potshots Shaw ? . What happens then single hits are not going to hurt Shaw and it would take a long time for Shaw to lose his power . If Wolverine potshots Shaw then hides again in the shadows the fight is essentially a stalemate since one or two hits are not going going to put shaw down and those two hits will slightly increase Shaws power. The most logical course for Logan would have been to avoid Shaw .

Originally posted by Battlehammer
well the preview says other wises........and you assumed it was from a cut......which it was not

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Wolverine was godamm lucky Shaw allowed him to reach the lights imo.

True.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
Worst analogy ever.

How so?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I wouldn't need a uzi with K-nite bullets to beat Supes.

Touche...