Wolverine vs Sebastian Shaw

Started by Wei Phoenix17 pages
Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully daken could tell if Logan was lieing for sure and daken would call logan on bullshit if he was lieing

Or he would just tell him to shut up like he did and fight. If he can tell if it was Wolverine's blood then wasn't he correct when he said he was in no condition to fight seeing as he saw it as his own blood?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
true. It was speed and power. shaw gets stronger and faster

And more durable.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
why would he lie? that be pritty dumb seeing as how if it was not shaw blood shaw be there already......or showing up within seconds.......

Logan had no reason to lie.

Maybe to intimidate?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
thats not the same for a body....if you move your arm the line would change........whiuch is what happen.....

mistake by the artist.......

what else do yuou think it was? they take place right after one another.

I messed up which I stated. I should have said he not the same as other mutants and they werent sure what he was, but they said he clearly was not the same as the others which I showed with a scan of the event.

Ok then take a marker and draw a straight line on your arm and tell me if the angle changes. A straight line will never slant up.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
To me it looks like a cut where blood is leaking from.

why arnt any of the other lines showuing blood?

if you look at how the artist draws he simply uses a lot mof random lines.....non of the others show blood.

on top of that we have logan stating it not his and to someone who cna detect if one is lieing.......

all evidences from the writer points to it not being his. even the blood spater near his hand is not consistent with it coming from a cut on his arm

Originally posted by Battlehammer
why arnt any of the other lines showuing blood?

if you look at how the artist draws he simply uses a lot mof random lines.....non of the others show blood.

on top of that we have logan stating it not his and to someone who cna detect if one is lieing.......

all evidences from the writer points to it not being his. even the blood spater near his hand is not consistent with it coming from a cut on his arm

That's how it looks to me. The blood starts right where the line is drawn.

Frankly, I think it was probably an artistic error, as the artist might have only had notes like "splash page: a blood covered Wolverine appears, brandishing claws, says this:"

Either way, even if it WAS Logan's blood, it still means Logan stayed to fight, implying he won...

Originally posted by Battlehammer
why would he lie? that be pritty dumb seeing as how if it was not shaw blood shaw be there already......or showing up within seconds.......

Logan had no reason to lie.

uh really? someone just said he got his ass handed to him.

He would lie just to save face.

Remember when BP said he didn't need Logan's help...you thought he was lying. BP had no reason to lie either except to save face.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Or he would just tell him to shut up like he did and fight. If he can tell if it was Wolverine's blood then wasn't he correct when he said he was in no condition to fight seeing as he saw it as his own blood?


No daken would say he lieing......

umm logans the one that says "your in no condition to fight" not daken.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix

Maybe to intimidate?

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........have you even read the arcs?

Daken has shown no fear of anyone logan would not bother intimidating some one who has shown no fear of him and even no fear of an opponet Logan himself has feared.......

Originally posted by Cavalier
Frankly, I think it was probably an artistic error, as the artist might have only had notes like "splash page: a blood covered Wolverine appears, brandishing claws, says this:"

Either way, even if it WAS Logan's blood, it still means Logan stayed to fight, implying he won...


cosigned

Originally posted by Starscream M
uh really? someone just said he got his ass handed to him.

He would lie just to save face.

Remember when BP said he didn't need Logan's help...you thought he was lying. BP had no reason to lie either except to save face.

BP is a character whose pride is a central part of who he is. Whether it's a black thing or just a BP thing, his independence is extremely important to him (or, at least, that's my take).

Logan, on the other hand, kicks peoples asses while bleeding all the time. I'd find it extremely hard to believe that he's a character who would feel shamed because somebody drew their blood- it's probably be more likely to make a comment like "You should see the other guy" or "Good ol' healing factor" if it was his blood.

Granted, I'm not the writer, but we're all trying to read between the lines at this point, so it's just my two cents.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's how it looks to me. The blood starts right where the line is drawn.

why don't any of the other lines have blood then?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
naw he can't he might have believed he could, but he would have been mistaken. though he must of been pritty amp in terms of strength even to state such a thing.
Logan's bones are unbreakable....not unbendable. Hulk has never tried to bend logans bones.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
why don't any of the other lines have blood then?
Maybe they were not deep enough to bleed? I'm not saying Wolverine ran, I am saying it looks like blood is leaking from that wound. The edge of the blood runs flush with the cut on his arm.

Originally posted by Cavalier
it's probably be more likely to make a comment like "You should see the other guy" or "Good ol' healing factor" if it was his blood.
true

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No daken would say he lieing......

umm logans the one that says "your in no condition to fight" not daken.

........have you even read the arcs?

Daken has shown no fear of anyone logan would not bother intimidating some one who has shown no fear of him and even no fear of an opponet Logan himself has feared.......

They call Daredevil the man without fear yet people still try to put fear into him.

Originally posted by Starscream M
uh really? someone just said he got his ass handed to him.

He would lie just to save face.

Remember when BP said he didn't need Logan's help...you thought he was lying. BP had no reason to lie either except to save face.

differnces is Logan does not lie like that. Logan states when he gets beat......he does not lie about it.

Black panther on the other ahnd has repeatedly lied to save face. It part of his cocky manner and character.

Logan character not like that he actaully admitts when he gets beat or out matched

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Maybe they were not deep enough to bleed? I'm not saying Wolverine ran, I am saying it looks like blood is leaking from that wound. The edge of the blood runs flush with the cut on his arm.

and yet none of the other lines are bleeding and some of the other lines are far bigger.......it just does not add up......and shaw only using blunt force not piercing

Originally posted by Battlehammer

Logan character not like that he actaully admitts when he gets beat or out matched
I've seen Logan talk smack to and act as if he could beat Juggernaut lol

Originally posted by Battlehammer
and yet none of the other lines are bleeding and some of the other lines are far bigger.......it just does not add up......and shaw only using blunt force not piercing
It does not matter how long a cut it. It's how deep it is.

9/10 people are gonna say it looks like that cut is leaking blood.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
They call Daredevil the man without fear yet people still try to put fear into him.

thats not the same.

just becuases your known for something does not make it so.

Logan knows his son not scared of him, it been proven so he have no reason to intimated some one he straight up kn ows does not fear him

Originally posted by Battlehammer
and yet none of the other lines are bleeding and some of the other lines are far bigger.......it just does not add up......and shaw only using blunt force not piercing
Blunt force can open cuts just like a knife.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
It does not matter how long a cut it. It's how deep it is.

9/10 people are gonna say it looks like that cut is leaking blood.


yet the line looks no worse then anyone other line......

the artist draws lines all over yet non show blood else were.

the blood near his hand could not have come from the suposes cut.

Logan states it not his blood.

shaw does not have percing attacks.......