Superman vs Loki

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Ya, that's the same thing everyone discredits when people try to bring up Surfer's speed... Galen I recall does it every Surfer thread.

Well bullrushing isn't a battle tendency for SS as much as it is for Supes, and ur little explanation back there didnt awnser anything. Loki doesnt fight at the speed supes does and Loki will not be able to react to a bullrush going faster then a nanosecond. Comparing SS speed to supes speed is foolish IMO, SS doesnt fight nearly as fast as supes nor does he ultalize speed to the effect supes does in combat. Supes 10/10 in this fight.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Well bullrushing isn't a battle tendency for SS as much as it is for Supes, and ur little explanation back there didnt awnser anything. Loki doesnt fight at the speed supes does and Loki will not be able to react to a bullrush going faster then a nanosecond. Comparing SS speed to supes speed is foolish IMO, SS doesnt fight nearly as fast as supes nor does he ultalize speed to the effect supes does in combat. Supes 10/10 in this fight.

Loki doesn't need to fight at his speed, all he needs to do is react, which he most likely can, which is why I say that speed won't be a factor.

How fast does a nano second travel? The speed of sound? I'm going to say the speed of sound. 😐

I didn't compare Surfer's speed to Superman's...
I could have used Armadillo, and my example would have stuck (although you don't downplay Armadillo at every turn, so I had to use Surfer).

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
Maybe Superman could also fight Dormammu and get a few wins. 🙄

Given the fact Dormammu would normally own even Loki..okay.

Originally posted by kgkg
your basing this on what? AND which "clarification" was not correct? help me out here

I'm basing this on the way he's handled magic over the years.

As for which clarifications aren't correct, that kryptonite and magic will always be his weakness, for starters. Even kryptonite isn't as potent as it used to be, see Supes shrugging off nukes while surrounded by the stuff, surviving going through a field of kryptonite and then a red sun, then STILL retaining some power. I'm not saying there will come a time where it never weakens him, just that both kryptonite and magic aren't nearly as deadly as they once were.

Then I would also say that to claim the writers are "ignoring" the weakness is false, rather they are fine tuning it. Superman doesn't fold so easily against magic anymore.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
*insert palm on face*

Loki doesn't need to fight at his speed, all he needs to do is react, which he most likely can, which is why I say that speed won't be a factor.

How fast does a nano second travel? The speed of sound? I'm going to say the speed of sound. 😐

I didn't compare Surfer's speed to Superman's...
I could have used Armadillo, and my example would have stuck (although you don't downplay Armadillo at every turn, so I had to use Surfer).

Loki can't react, simple as that. Supes 10/10.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Loki can't react, simple as that. Supes 10/10.

Loki can blink from Asgard to earth in a milisecond.

Supes bullrushes him and its over, Loki doesnt have the speed to compete agaisnt Supes in any shape of form.

Originally posted by UKR
he's never fought a guy in Loki's class.

Which comics have you been reading? Supes has endured magical assaults from guys above Loki.

Originally posted by Starscream M
Could Superman overcome his magic weakness and defeat the trickster?

Originally posted by Badabing
Dude, WTF? 😑 He doesn't get past one. Doom, magic and brains. Fate, magic.

I'm about to close this for spite. uhuh

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm basing this on the way he's handled magic over the years.

As for which clarifications aren't correct, that kryptonite and magic will always be his weakness, for starters. Even kryptonite isn't as potent as it used to be, see Supes shrugging off nukes while surrounded by the stuff, surviving going through a field of kryptonite and then a red sun, then STILL retaining some power. I'm not saying there will come a time where it never weakens him, just that both kryptonite and magic aren't nearly as deadly as they once were.

Then I would also say that to claim the writers are "ignoring" the weakness is false, rather they are fine tuning it. Superman doesn't fold so easily against magic anymore.

Superman was fighting in Kyptonite gas in the 90's and high magical attacks. There are been cases of quick K.O in the 2000s by those attacks.

I agree that magic and Kryptonite aren't as bad as they used to be but i already exampled why.

Superman most definetely can fight out Magic, and Kryptonite. We have seen him(respect thread) fight of magical users who tend to use a lot of magic. Magic users who seem and most likely are better with magic then Loki. However, Superman is still affect by it.

I think Superman can take Loki out, but very hard. If Superman Speed Blitz's him then he can win even if he gets hit. Superman beats Loki in speed, strenght, smarts, and Durability. The only think Loki wins is Magic user since Superman isn't a magic user. So people only need to think of it this way. Can Superman defeat him using speed, and his huge power? Your opinion!! My opinion is Superman can 3/5

Superman beats Loki in smarts?

How?

He married a stuckup *****.

How's that for smarts huh!?

Not too good.

He also passed his chance with Maxima, Diana...

Hmph come to think of it...

I'm still wondering how fast a nano second travels.

the speed of bullrush approximately

ah, of course...

How fast is Loki?

Seconds, minutes?

An increment of time does not have a travel distance, you can measure how fast something can go in a nano second, but there isn't a speed a nano second travels, because it doesn't.

ergo, bullrush