Supreme wasn't winning either, champ. That's why they call it a stalemate. 🙂
Look, you've made it perfectly clear that you're not going to look at the facts and use those to determine the outcome here, so there's really no point in discussing with you any further. When you realize that your opinion doesn't hold any sway when logic shows it to be incorrect, then we'll continue.
Originally posted by Brutacus
It was not state in the comic that supreme was 2 time's stronger than gladiator read it again.
It was on the back cover.
See the whole Glads vs Supreme fight here.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=497251&highlight=clones+forumid%3A77
Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
If anything, it's ridiculous that Pitt would be able to generate enough force to knock out Supreme.
Unless he was created that strong, right?
When has Pitt ever been put down due to physical domination? Never.
When was Rulk put down due to physical dominance? Recently
Who has more feats? Pitt.... Rulk as of now only lasted for what 7 maybe 8 appearances... and suddenly he can't be beat, and there are feats to prove it?
Everything that happened in those Loeb books are canon, and from what was shown in Rulks defeat, he would not have the staying power to beat Pitt, he might be a little stronger, but strength isn't everything Pitt would outlast him.
When Thor got serious on Rulk what happened? Rulk was just superhyped but in the end he got a pin stuck in his balloon.
Pitt was assaulted by a God Slayer and lived through the ordeal, an ancient God Slayer to boot, Rulk would have been eaten.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Supreme wasn't winning either, champ. That's why they call it a stalemate. 🙂Look, you've made it perfectly clear that you're not going to look at the facts and use those to determine the outcome here, so there's really no point in discussing with you any further. When you realize that your opinion doesn't hold any sway when logic shows it to be incorrect, then we'll continue.
By all means bow out.
Originally posted by Brutacus
Show it.
In here.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=497251&highlight=clones+forumid%3A77
Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
It was on the back cover.See the whole Glads vs Supreme fight here.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=497251&highlight=clones+forumid%3A77
Seen the fight over 100 times allready not the first time I'm on this forum.
The fight ends in a stalemate because the output of there energy would destory the planet or something so gladiator was just playing dead.
Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
In here.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=497251&highlight=clones+forumid%3A77
Don't see where it state he is 2 times stronger show the back cover.
Originally posted by Brutacus
Ok yeah I see it your right on the back of the cover first scan.
Still it was a stalemate.
Stalemate or not Gladiator without CIS would ruin Rulks day just like Thor was about to.
Supreme and Gladiator may have stalemated, but it was still stated that Supreme was above him, and it showed that Supreme was getting the better of Gladiator, because let's face it, when has Gladiator ever b@@ched up to someone beneath him? Like never.
Rulk has no staying power this would be the deciding factor, and he doesn't get stronger either, and he doesn't hit as hard as Gladiator on panel.
Originally posted by Stoic
Stalemate or not Gladiator without CIS would ruin Rulks day just like Thor was about to.Supreme and Gladiator may have stalemated, but it was still stated that Supreme was above him, and it showed that Supreme was getting the better of Gladiator, because let's face it, when has Gladiator ever b@@ched up to someone beneath him? Like never.
Rulk has no staying power this would be the deciding factor, and he doesn't get stronger either, and he doesn't hit as hard as Gladiator on panel.
Euh based on what???
Hulk beat gladiator allready.
Has it ever been the other way around nope.
Originally posted by Brutacus
Euh based on what???
Hulk beat gladiator allready.
Has it ever been the other way around nope.
Did you notice what personae that Hulk was? It was the Maestro personae, not Savage. Anyone that knows anything about the Hulk knows that his power is a state of mind, and Savage Hulk always starts his battles as a humble five year old.
The Hulk that battled Gladiator was cool and calculating; even cruelty was not beneath him, a true killer.
Rulk is a killer as well, which took Savage Hulk by storm, and Thor as well.
Pitt is also a killer. he was bred as the perfect organism, with the ability to kill any given species, a doomsday device if you can imagine, but he was able to get away from his father Zoyvod, and thus embrace his humanity.
However Pitt has two sides, and the more damge he sustains the more his father's side of the coin comes out of him, this is most likely the form that Rulk would see after a prolonged (and much "heated" battle).
Rulk would start to melt like frosty, and Pitt would have grown into a true monster without the abilty to be reasoned with.
Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
Glads lost to Hulk because of his weakness to radiation.
You're totally right it was the Radiation, not gamma but the radiation from the facility, so Rulk would not be able to affect Gladiator in this way.
Here's a question for you who did the Hulk look like when he was hitting Gladiator though? Do you remember the look on the Maestro's face when he was putting the beat down on Professor Hulk in Future Imprefect?
Your point is that the hulk may not have beaten Gladiator if not for the radiation though, but even if he could not, he would have a better shot at it than a guy that gets hotter as he gets more upset.
Rulk in truth and potential is the weakest link, and he is excused.
Originally posted by StoicOK, maybe I'm missing something but I went back to the Ugly Americans issue and I didn't see any different form of Pitt. I saw him with his skin burned off by the Sunspot laser that he didn't grow back for almost a day. I went back farther in the comics and I think that you are getting the form that he was in when he was battling his brother Quagg then Wroth, that was the start of the possession of Zoyvod. This was started by Quagg hitting him with a flashback of memories of his creation which triggered a psychological change in Pitt. During the later battle with Wroth is when Zoyvod took over.
No read the end of the Arc when Pitt loses control of his retractable claws, and goes in search of the President of the US.