Originally posted by EnyalusBut it didn't really 'kill' anything, if you think about it. Just transformed it. A process which Entropy was willing to accept.
I can see what you're saying...but the bottom line is that it was still Genis' power which 'killed' an abstract-level being. With one hit.
Originally posted by EnyalusRead the preceding story [I would skim it, but I'm at work]. I'm pretty sure Eternity was already dying, or somesuch. Could be wrong.
I totally missed the part where Eternity was ill in the first place - but whatever Galan says, I guess. 😛
Originally posted by Galan007Except Eternity wasn't weak and I'm not sure where you are getting that he was.
Didn't say that. Just said that it's nowhere near as impressive as if, say, Eternity wouldn't have already been weak, and had actively been trying to prevent it's death [and neither of which apply to the Genis/Entropy 'feat']
Him fighting back would have prevented him from being bound by Entropy, that says nothing about them not having the power to destroy him.
Originally posted by Galan007From the time the universe is formed Eternity is dying.
Could have sworn Eternity was dying [will look tomorrow] and if he was, we can logically assume he wouldn't have been at full power imo.
That doesn't mean Eternity was weak when they killed him.
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Originally posted by MindsetMeh, post the scans where those 2 actually see Eternity. I think it's mentioned there.
From the time the universe is formed Eternity is dying.That doesn't mean Eternity was weak when they killed him.
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Originally posted by Galan007
But it didn't really 'kill' anything, if you think about it. Just transformed it. A process which Entropy was willing to accept.
Okay - Genis provided the power to start a new Big Bang. How's that one sound?
Originally posted by Galan007
Read the preceding story [I would skim it, but I'm at work]. I'm pretty sure Eternity was already dying, or somesuch. Could be wrong.
I'm not gonna knock you much. 🙂 After all the stuff I don't remember correctly. But no, Eternity was not weakened. Entropy merely tells Genis that eventually the universe will end. And he'd rather do it now. And wants Genis' help.
Before that, though, Genis unleashes a 'Primal Scream' - "They hear his scream everywhere...everywhere. It's a Primal Scream. Happens every now and then when a truly cosmic being gets his knickers in a twist. It killed the dinosaurs, made humanity afraid of the dark, and annihilated half of Europe in the guise of the Black Plague. Cuts to the core of everything that is and was and will be."
So there you have it - Genis at that point was a 'truly cosmic being' ....abstract level?
Doesn't say anything besides who Eternity is, but:
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Originally posted by Enyalushttp://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l54/Markymark_016/CaptainMarvelIV05p16.jpg 😎Okay - Genis provided the power to start a new Big Bang. How's that one sound?
I'm not gonna knock you much. 🙂 After all the stuff I don't remember correctly. But no, Eternity was not weakened. Entropy merely tells Genis that eventually the universe will end. And he'd rather do it now. And wants Genis' help.
Before that, though, Genis unleashes a 'Primal Scream' - "They hear his scream everywhere...everywhere. It's a Primal Scream. Happens every now and then when a truly cosmic being gets his knickers in a twist. It killed the dinosaurs, made humanity afraid of the dark, and annihilated half of Europe in the guise of the Black Plague. Cuts to the core of everything that is and was and will be."
So there you have it - Genis at that point was a 'truly cosmic being' ....abstract level? [/B]
Originally posted by EnyalusGenis' gun = a big bang? lol, okay! 👆
Okay - Genis provided the power to start a new Big Bang. How's that one sound?
Originally posted by EnyalusHmm, like I said I could be wrong, I just though there was something about Eternity dying somewhere in there... Meh, I'll look tomorrow if I remember.
I'm not gonna knock you much. 🙂 After all the stuff I don't remember correctly. But no, Eternity was not weakened. Entropy merely tells Genis that eventually the universe will end. And he'd rather do it now. And wants Genis' help.
Originally posted by EnyalusAbstract level? Because he was responsible for a few earth-based scourges throughout time? C'mon. ermm
Before that, though, Genis unleashes a 'Primal Scream' - "They hear his scream everywhere...everywhere. It's a Primal Scream. Happens every now and then when a truly cosmic being gets his knickers in a twist. It killed the dinosaurs, made humanity afraid of the dark, and annihilated half of Europe in the guise of the Black Plague. Cuts to the core of everything that is and was and will be."So there you have it - Genis at that point was a 'truly cosmic being' ....abstract level?
Originally posted by Galan007
Abstract level? Because he was responsible for a few earthly scourges throughout time? C'mon. ermm
Uh. It says everywhere. And it 'cuts to the core of everything that is and was and will be.' The fact that it listed stuff that happened on Earth was obviously for reference.
It affected everything.
And - Genis' gun is powered by his energies. 😛 He kicked Hemidal's (sp?) ass with it.
Originally posted by iceman24567
I would not say Genis is abstract level
The period that he is commonly perceived of as Insane, I might be inclined to agree.
I think that Photon was his most powerful incarnation, and when he merges with his older self is his second most powerful. Technically, he's still crazy during those versions, but no one thinks of him that way.
Eternity was never weak during the Insane arc,
but he did want to die.
Regardless, it still took the power of Genis & Entropy to obliterate all that creation,
because it's not like Eternity assisted them in any way shape or form,
and all that space-time is the entire Marvelverse.
And lastly again, the arc alludes to Genis doing most of the work,
not to mention that out of all the beings in existence,
Entropy only came to Genis for help.
Genis initiated the next Big Bang, (like the spark)
but it was the energies contained within Entropy that actually re-created the Marvelverse.
