Batman VS. Wildcat!

Originally posted by namorsubby
they're you go specualting again.

1. you don't know at all whether ted has strength feats to match batman.
a.the one i showed actually is one.lol

2.you're assuming since ted can arm-wrestle him that his super-strength is "piss poor", but you have no idea what you're talking about in reference to the atom Al pratt.

this is why it is crap😆

1. No I do know he doesn't. Surely then you should post some.

2. No website or bio I can find even gives an example of Pratt's strength. It seems all they do is state he is superhuman. He is very likely rather low if any since WC was able to stalemate him for a very short amount of time before the scene ended. Maybe you could tell me some of Pratt's strength feats?

You are the one speculating.

Originally posted by namorsubby
they fought many times. wildcat won once, the rest were inconclusive.

who exactly surpasses ted that he's trained?

Namorsubby. Here are Batman's clear and measurable strength feats. Lets see you post anything Ted has done which even comes close.

Supports the weight of a 1000lbs ceiling. I'm not sure if this one is post crisis though.

http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc244&image=77c_bat1000.jpg

Lifts up a large beam in order to help people escape. These beams can weigh anywhere from 400lbs to 1000lbs. Either way they are heavy.

http://img101.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc278&image=d54_batbeam4.jpg

Lifts a large totem off him.These can usually weigh a tonne.

http://img20.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc27&image=d5c_batotem4.jpg

Supports the weight of debris. One of the characters summarizes it probably weighs at least a tonne. He is probably correct.

http://img45.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc204&image=215_baton1.jpg
http://img111.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc192&image=b12_baton2.jpg

Easily swings around a 600lbs Man-bat.

http://img130.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=58961_batswing_122_564lo.jpg

Rips open a car boot underwater.
http://img120.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc136&image=0fa_batrunk.jpg

Rips up a huge metal pipe.

http://img111.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc201&image=1f4_batduct.jpg

Rips out prison bars.

http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batmanthelonghalloween8pg070wv.jpg

Bends the barrel of a gun.
http://img44.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc93&image=f84_batbend.jpg

Breaks steel chain handcuffs with one hand.
http://img44.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc239&image=73f_batchain1.jpg

Rips nailed steel.
http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc231&image=957_batcord.jpg

Benches 600lbs of loose soil while in a weakend and drugged state.
http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batman68115wg2.jpg

http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batman68116pl5.jpg

Now let's see Ted top these with measurable strength feats. Not vague armwrestling contests.

Batman has already defeated WC.... He's stronger, faster, smarter, better control over his body, and a far batter fighter. Batman stomps. Batman 8-9/10.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Batman has already defeated WC.... He's stronger, faster, smarter, better control over his body, and a far batter fighter. Batman stomps. Batman 8-9/10.

Originally posted by Warrior18
Namorsubby. Here are Batman's clear and measurable strength feats. Lets see you post anything Ted has done which even comes close.

Supports the weight of a 1000lbs ceiling. I'm not sure if this one is post crisis though.

http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc244&image=77c_bat1000.jpg

Lifts up a large beam in order to help people escape. These beams can weigh anywhere from 400lbs to 1000lbs. Either way they are heavy.

http://img101.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc278&image=d54_batbeam4.jpg

Lifts a large totem off him.These can usually weigh a tonne.

http://img20.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc27&image=d5c_batotem4.jpg

Supports the weight of debris. One of the characters summarizes it probably weighs at least a tonne. He is probably correct.

http://img45.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc204&image=215_baton1.jpg
http://img111.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc192&image=b12_baton2.jpg

Easily swings around a 600lbs Man-bat.

http://img130.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=58961_batswing_122_564lo.jpg

Rips open a car boot underwater.
http://img120.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc136&image=0fa_batrunk.jpg

Rips up a huge metal pipe.

http://img111.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc201&image=1f4_batduct.jpg

Rips out prison bars.

http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batmanthelonghalloween8pg070wv.jpg

Bends the barrel of a gun.
http://img44.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc93&image=f84_batbend.jpg

Breaks steel chain handcuffs with one hand.
http://img44.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc239&image=73f_batchain1.jpg

Rips nailed steel.
http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc231&image=957_batcord.jpg

Benches 600lbs of loose soil while in a weakend and drugged state.
http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batman68115wg2.jpg

http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batman68116pl5.jpg

Now let's see Ted top these with measurable strength feats. Not vague armwrestling contests.

BTW, there's nothing you can show/tell me about my all time fav character.......besides spidey of course. i know what bats can do, better than you even, but their fights and the close stats say this is a really close match. if i was going simply off of what batman does like you i'd probably share the same opinion.

point is you think he wins 10/10 in a pwn.......there's no point in even arguing with you.

Originally posted by Warrior18
1. No I do know he doesn't. Surely then you should post some.

2. No website or bio I can find even gives an example of Pratt's strength. It seems all they do is state he is superhuman. He is very likely rather low if any since WC was able to stalemate him for a very short amount of time before the scene ended. Maybe you could tell me some of Pratt's strength feats?

You are the one speculating.

i'll just throw one of ted's feats out there in a nice little bow for you and see how you like it:

1. ted holds an crocodile's mouth open, not closed. they close thier mouths with over 5000lbs of force. i doubt any human alive can do that:
http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo227/wilcat92/guy_gardner_36_08.jpg

Originally posted by namorsubby
no he hasn't. but ted has beaten him.

Yes he did. with one headbutt.

Originally posted by namorsubby
i know he's not stronger than al pratt. so none of this matters.

BTW, there's nothing you can show/tell me about my all time fav character.......besides spidey of course. i know what bats can do, better than you even, but their fights and the close stats say this is a really close match. if i was going simply off of what batman does like you i'd probably share the same opinion.

point is you think he wins 10/10 in a pwn.......there's no point in even arguing with you.

1.ABC logic with regard to a vague feat. Ted stalematimg Al Pratt in arm wrestling for a short amount of time does not in anyway trump or equal Batman's plethora of genuine measurable strength feats.

2.Lol. You assume much about my knowledge of Batman.Their stats say otherwise. Ted only has an endurance level which equals of trumps Bats. Everywhere else he is beaten.I look at both charachters.

3. Actually I'm sure I said any where from 7/10 to 10/10 in pure H2H. READ MY POSTS. If it makes you feel better I'll say 8/10. No point arguing with you. You are a pure fanboy my friend.

Originally posted by namorsubby
.........have you been to the thread?

i'll just throw [b]one of ted's feats out there in a nice little bow for you and see how you like it:

1. ted holds an crocodile's mouth open, not closed. they close thier mouths with over 5000lbs of force. i doubt any human alive can do that:
http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo227/wilcat92/guy_gardner_36_08.jpg [/B]

I have. Ted does not perform the kind of strength feat Batman does on a regular basis. Never mind that Ted is not as skilled and certainly not as fast.

2. Croc feat is impressive.Based on what he has already done I see no reason why Bruce couldn't replicate that. Batman performs more feats more often anyway. Often while injured etc.

ps. Why didn't you list or post that feat beforehand anyway? It's more impressive than that bullshit armwrestling feat you posted.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Yes he did. with one headbutt.

there's absolutely no way to tell what happened. he was barely in view, and you couldn't see his face.

i don't even think this comic is canon anyway.

Originally posted by Warrior18
1.ABC logic with regard to a vague feat. Ted stalematimg Al Pratt in arm wrestling for a short amount of time does not in anyway trump or equal Batman's plethora of genuine measurable strength feats.

2.Lol. You assume much about my knowledge of Batman.Their stats say otherwise. Ted only has an endurance level which equals of trumps Bats. Everywhere else he is beaten.I look at both charachters.

3. Actually I'm sure I said any where from 7/10 to 10/10 in pure H2H. READ MY POSTS. If it makes you feel better I'll say 8/10. No point arguing with you. You are a pure fanboy my friend.

in fact i voted batman standard gear and h2h slim majority beforehand.

you're not too bright.

honestly, Batman lost to ted once, the rest of the fights were undecided. I'm a Batman fan I actually really like the guy, he is one of my favorite comic book heroes. Still I do not buy into Batman can do anything, anytime anywhere (even though he seems to). But if we are going off Track record Wildcat beat him once, trained him. Ted use to Box but he also knows a lot more than that like Batman does. And honestly, Ted is heralded as the best/strongest "human/mortal/non-super-powered" fighters in the DC universe. So with this alone I think it would be a close fight. But with no weapons I think Ted takes it.

while i personally think ted would give batman a fight, batman tends to be just that but better than people on ted's level (like canary et al), more often than not...

batman for a decent, but not overwhelming majority, imo...

Originally posted by Raoul
while i personally think ted would give batman a fight, batman tends to be just that but better than people on ted's level (like canary et al), more often than not...

batman for a decent, but not overwhelming majority, imo...

Without her Shriek, Ted would take Canary. I know her trained her and she is a really good fighter, but in h2h Ted wins.

Originally posted by Silent Guardian
Without her Shriek, Ted would take Canary. I know her trained her and she is a really good fighter, but in h2h Ted wins.

i think he could take a few off of canary, though i would argue that she could take just as many...

and i did say 'on that level' as i don't think that even if ted is superior, its by that big a leap...

Originally posted by Raoul
i think he could take a few off of canary, though i would argue that she could take just as many...

and i did say 'on that level' as i don't think that even if ted is superior, its by that big a leap...

I would agree with you in that regard. I do not think it would be an easy/quick fight for Ted. Still i feel he has the edge and is the superior fighter. That being said it would be a good fight cause Canary can definitely hold her own and dish it.

Originally posted by Silent Guardian
I would agree with you in that regard. I do not think it would be an easy/quick fight for Ted. Still i feel he has the edge and is the superior fighter. That being said it would be a good fight cause Canary can definitely hold her own and dish it.

aye...

if i'm wanking canary too much, blame gail simone for her work on birds of prey...

ha-son

this'll be my final statement concerning this match:

initially i chose bats for the slim majority h2h, but now i'm unsure. considering their fights and close stats i'd say it could go either way. when 2 characters have stalemated so much in their actual encounters and their stats are so similar, it is only reasonable to consider the possibility that they are evenly matched.

with standard equipment i'd say bats for the majority. i'd say a rather large majority if i wasn't so sure that this is still most likely to turn into a brawl despite batman's gadgets. either way, with his belt batman's has the edge.

Originally posted by namorsubby

you're not too bright.

Lol. Well somehow I managed to get into university. 🙄