Thanos vs Juggernaut

Originally posted by quanchi112
Their feats. Its all speculation. Whats he done that puts him up there with Odin. He was more powerful during the 8 th day saga than he is normally.

It is true that on a feats perspective that Cyttorak isn't really strong at all seeing that Cain was able to beat him even though that was an incredibly gay human version of Cyttorak. I however still believe that Cyttorak should be represented more seeing as Cain only has a fraction of his power and that he seems to do fine against earth and a few upper beings.

During their second fight Thor couldn't hurt Cain until he took his FF away. I don't really reference the 1st fight seeing as Thor was weakened except for the fact that a weakened GB couldn't hurt him.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
It is true that on a feats perspective that Cyttorak isn't really strong at all seeing that Cain was able to beat him even though that was an incredibly gay human version of Cyttorak. I however still believe that Cyttorak should be represented more seeing as Cain only has a fraction of his power and that he seems to do fine against earth and a few upper beings.

During their second fight Thor couldn't hurt Cain until he took his FF away. I don't really reference the 1st fight seeing as Thor was weakened except for the fact that a weakened GB couldn't hurt him.

Odin created Thor's hammer and it has chased off Galactus. he also created the Destroyer which would defeat Juggs as well imo. Odin himself also has tremendous feats while Cytorrak doesnt.

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Absense of proof isn't proof of absense. Cyttoraks lack of feats means nothing. Zom, Dormammu, Ancient One, Classic Strange have all invoked Cyttoraks power. Cyttorak has created life out of nothing, something neither Galactus or Odin can claim.

Cyttorak>All other members of the octessence, proven.

Cyttorak, like all evil mystical deities, are banished from this plane of exsistance.

To say Galactus or Odin are easily more powerful than Cyttorak is pure conjecture.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Absense of proof isn't proof of absense. Cyttoraks lack of feats means nothing. Zom, Dormammu, Ancient One, Classic Strange have all invoked Cyttoraks power. Cyttorak has created life out of nothing, something neither Galactus or Odin can claim.

Cyttorak>All other members of the octessence, proven.

Cyttorak, like all evil mystical deities, are banished from this plane of exsistance.

To say Galactus or Odin are easily more powerful than Cyttorak is pure conjecture.

Odin has rocked the multiverse while Cytorrak hasnt. Galactus created Tyrant which >>>>>Juggs. Odin has created Thor;s hammer which is more powerful than Juggs and the destroyer armor which I would argue is more invulnerable than Juggs imo.

When was it proven that Cytorrak was more powerful than the other members? If so what does that have to do with Odin or Galactus?

To suggest Cytorrak is on their level without any proof is fanboyism at its finest.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Cain was the only one who was able to defy his being and still retain his individual personality.

Odin created Thor's hammer and it has chased off Galactus. he also created the Destroyer which would defeat Juggs as well imo. Odin himself also has tremendous feats while Cytorrak doesnt.

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That same hammer has bounced right off of Cain. His hammer can't hurt him. I don't know much about the Destroyer to claim that Cain could beat it.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
That same hammer has bounced right off of Cain. His hammer can't hurt him. I don't know much about the Destroyer to claim that Cain could beat it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Godblast son. 😎

Godblast can't hurt him either son.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How do you know he is so powerful then? I know you like Juggernaut and can see why you would defend him. Wha is this based on? Statements? Juggs feats?

Odin has rocked the multiverse while Cytorrak hasnt. Galactus created Tyrant which >>>>>Juggs. Odin has created Thor;s hammer which is more powerful than Juggs and the destroyer armor which I would argue is more invulnerable than Juggs imo.

When was it proven that Cytorrak was more powerful than the other members? If so what does that have to do with Odin or Galactus?

To suggest Cytorrak is on their level without any proof is fanboyism at its finest.

Again, absence and all that. Just because he hasn't doesn't mean he can't.

Thor with his hammer hasn't been able to do anything more than BFR Juggernaut.

Destroyer armor more invulnerable than Juggernaut? Based on what?

And let's not get into fanboyism. You are fan boy personified.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
It is true that on a feats perspective that Cyttorak isn't really strong at all seeing that Cain was able to beat him even though that was an incredibly gay human version of Cyttorak. I however still believe that Cyttorak should be represented more seeing as Cain only has a fraction of his power and that he seems to do fine against earth and a few upper beings.

During their second fight Thor couldn't hurt Cain until he took his FF away. I don't really reference the 1st fight seeing as Thor was weakened except for the fact that a weakened GB couldn't hurt him.

Juggernaut never beat Cyttorak, at least not the real Cyttorak; it was revealed that the being that Cain beat was only an aspect or an Avatar of the real Cyttorak, which makes alot of sense. The real Cyttorak was said to be capable of destroying all of reality, which would put him on or above Galactus at full power, meaning that he was approaching omniversal threat status.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How do you know he is so powerful then? I know you like Juggernaut and can see why you would defend him. Wha is this based on? Statements? Juggs feats?

Odin has rocked the multiverse while Cytorrak hasnt. Galactus created Tyrant which >>>>>Juggs. Odin has created Thor;s hammer which is more powerful than Juggs and the destroyer armor which I would argue is more invulnerable than Juggs imo.

When was it proven that Cytorrak was more powerful than the other members? If so what does that have to do with Odin or Galactus?

To suggest Cytorrak is on their level without any proof is fanboyism at its finest.

Cyttorak was exiled to the Crimson Cosmos as he was too much of a threat to remain in the mainstream Marvel dimension, and would have destroyed it had he not been exiled.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Godblast can't hurt him either son.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Again, absence and all that. Just because he hasn't doesn't mean he can't.

Thor with his hammer hasn't been able to do anything more than BFR Juggernaut.

Destroyer armor more invulnerable than Juggernaut? Based on what?

And let's not get into fanboyism. You are fan boy personified.

Im asking for something to suggest why he is on their level. What is it?

Originally posted by Stoic
Juggernaut never beat Cyttorak, at least not the real Cyttorak; it was revealed that the being that Cain beat was only an aspect or an Avatar of the real Cyttorak, which makes alot of sense. The real Cyttorak was said to be capable of destroying all of reality, which would put him on or above Galactus at full power, meaning that he was approaching omniversal threat status.

Cyttorak was exiled to the Crimson Cosmos as he was too much of a threat to remain in the mainstream Marvel dimension, and would have destroyed it had he not been exiled.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Really? Based on the destroyer feats and what not. War Hulk and Onslaught crushed Juggs.

Yeah, I seem to remember that time when Thor fired the GF blast and Juggernaut and it did absolutely nothing. hmmm...

War Hulk was amped and Onslaught? Really, leave it to you to use a PIS filled story to support your weak arguements. Point something out that made sense in that story.

Juggernaut has survived far worse than the Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Really?

He took a GB from him in their first fight.

so its a toss up

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Yeah, I seem to remember that time when Thor fired the GF blast and Juggernaut and it did absolutely nothing. hmmm...

War Hulk was amped and Onslaught? Really, leave it to you to use a PIS filled story to support your weak arguements. Point something out that made sense in that story.

Juggernaut has survived far worse than the Hulk.

War Hulk is still the Hulk and he beat the snot out of Juggs. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Leave it to you to excuse this showing in order to preserve Juggs as something he is not. It counts and is canon.

Very good stupid one.

War Hulk is still the Hulk and he beat the snot out of Juggs. 😂

Wait, so you believe it was ALL Hulk? Hulk simply overpowered the Juggernaut?

Where did War Hulk hurt Juggernaut?

All he did was punch him around. The real feat was stopping him.

The only time I remember it happening was when Quan read the book.

A properly written Juggernaut would stomp all over Thanos's prune head. A properly written Juggs has shown to be reduced to a simple skeleton and survived. And STILL kept on fighting.

Originally posted by cloud102
A properly written Juggernaut would stomp all over Thanos's prune head. A properly written Juggs has shown to be reduced to a simple skeleton and survived. And STILL kept on fighting.

Perhaps. I'm leaning towards a one on one battle. Something I don't think Thanos can win. Unless he BFR. He'd eventually go for the master prep or just out plan Cain. In that scenario, of course Thanos, but he didn't do it by physical force.