Ultimecia vs Jedah

Originally posted by SHM
Watch bellow Ultimecia's body, and you all can see the stars being absorbed by her cape.

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/ffviii-final-boss-battle-ultimecia-final-form/655970683

at what time? I watched the video and saw a few lowbie old game graphical effects, flashing lights, no stars/suns etc, no reprisentation of existence being swallowed.

Also what are you getting "Ultemecia can absorb existence" from, does some character just say it, does she say it? or is it actually spoken as fact from an official source?

Originally posted by Burning thought
at what time? I watched the video and saw a few lowbie old game graphical effects, flashing lights, no stars/suns etc, no reprisentation of existence being swallowed.

Also what are you getting "Ultemecia can absorb existence" from, does some character just say it, does she say it? or is it actually spoken as fact from an official source?

You have to play FFVIII before you say she can't do something when it has been shown that she can.

your not reading any of my posts, if you going to start coughing up your crap and bile into this thread please at least read my posts, nowhere in that post did I say Ultimecia could not do something, I asked someone to show me.

If you cannot show backup for your characters then you cannot use powers and feats that you claim them to have without evidence.

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Originally posted by Burning thought
your not reading any of my posts, if you going to start coughing up your crap and bile into this thread please at least read my posts, nowhere in that post did I say Ultimecia could not do something, I asked someone to show me.

If you cannot show backup for your characters then you cannot use powers and feats that you claim them to have without evidence.

It has been shown in this video: http://video.aol.com/video-detail/f...-form/655970683.

And if you read my post very carefully you may read very very carefully that I said at what time in the video? give me the exact number, stop blurting out posts and actually take time to read my sentences, if your this bad in a few sentences you could hardly debate with the likes of me, Jaxx and the long posters.

Originally posted by Burning thought
And if you read my post [b]very carefully you may read very very carefully that I said at what time in the video? give me the exact number, stop blurting out posts and actually take time to read my sentences, if your this bad in a few sentences you could hardly debate with the likes of me, Jaxx and the long posters. [/B]

I don't have video's on my computer, so you will have to ask SHM for the exact time, not me. Videos don't load for me 🙁 .

okie dokie, well my first post on this page goes to him or anyone who can tell me, either way it shows nothing of stars from what ive seen in that video.

Originally posted by Burning thought
at what time? I watched the video and saw a few lowbie old game graphical effects, flashing lights, no stars/suns etc, no reprisentation of existence being swallowed.

At what time?! During the entire battle, dude. We can see the stars approaching her from all directions, and entering her body.
I don't understand how you couldn't see that.

Also what are you getting "Ultemecia can absorb existence" from, does some character just say it, does she say it? or is it actually spoken as fact from an official source?

It's stated in the Scan. Scan is something made by the creators to explain to the player, abilities and characteristics of all enemies fought in the game(normal enemies and bosses).

its stated in the scan? a comic or book you mean?

also no I dont see it, i see flashy lights, theres no stars at all...I just watched it again, theres nothing that resembles at all stars, they look more like the sort of things you see in Kingdom hears when you attack enemies. How do you know its stars and not just some random light effect?

Originally posted by Burning thought
its stated in the scan? a comic or book you mean?

Not this type of scan. The Scan is an ability you can use, to get more information about the enemy. For example, if you want to know how much HP is still left to kill the enemy, instead of attacking him, you can Scan him.
It's practicaly a scanner.

also no I dont see it, i see flashy lights, theres no stars at all...I just watched it again, theres nothing that resembles at all stars, they look more like the sort of things you see in Kingdom hears when you attack enemies. How do you know its stars and not just some random light effect?

The fight is happening in space. The "flashy lights" approaching and entering her body, are stars.

And even if we assume they aren't stars, there IS a reason why they are being absorbed by Ulti.
The Scan states that she is absorbing all existence. Then we can see her absorbing some points of light.
Logical conclusion: These "points of light" being absorbed by her are, obviously, representing existence. They aren't "random light effects".

Originally posted by SHM
Not this type of scan. The Scan is an ability you can use, to get more information about the enemy. For example, if you want to know how much HP is still left to kill the enemy, instead of attacking him, you can Scan him.
It's practicaly a scanner.

The fight is happening in space. The "flashy lights" approaching and entering her body, are stars.

And even if we assume they aren't stars, there IS a reason why they are being absorbed by Ulti.
The Scan states that she is absorbing all existence. Then we can see her absorbing some points of light.
Logical conclusion: These "points of light" being absorbed by her are, obviously, representing existence. They aren't "[b]random light effects". [/B]

So its an ability you can use in-game that shows gameplay (HP for example) information?....riiiigghht great, thats nearly as bad as you taking evidence for her absorbing existence her own speech.

They are stars? from what? their just flashy things, they look nothing like stars, stinks of an assumption to me. An assumption backed by nothing.

Or thats just another one of your assumptions and their just old game lightning effects, just like you get in most of gameplay, hell that video you showed was gameplay and those flashes and w/e you want to call them could easily be as I said, gameplay lightning effects just to make a character more interesting rather than a far reaching assumption.

You see BT, they're in space. That's why the humans aren't even vaguely effected by the lack of oxygen or gravity.
It's not space. It's just a void.

That was another thing i was wondering, i doubt its space due to your reason, I doubt their stars because they look nothing alike, FF7 seems to have older looking graphics and they can show planets and stars when they want to.

In conclusion the fans of Ultemecia are wanking her up unless they have any good evidence.....

Originally posted by Burning thought
So its an ability you can use [b]in-game that shows gameplay (HP for example) information?....riiiigghht great, thats nearly as bad as you taking evidence for her absorbing existence her own speech.[/B]

Are you purposefully ignoring what I'm saying? The Scan doesn't show only gameplay information. It gives a little explanation about the character in the story, too.
Hell, what the fu*k "absorbing all existence as we speak" have to do with gameplay/game-mechanics?! Absolutely nothing.

Originally posted by SHM
Are you purposefully ignoring what I'm saying? The Scan doesn't show only gameplay information. It gives a little explanation about the character in the story, too.

Don't try to convince BT, bacause he won't believe shit. I know you are right, because I know what happens. She was sucking all existence, but PK, and BT think they know everything. Everyone knows it except for them, so don't try. It is worthless.

Originally posted by SHM
Hell, what the fu*k "absorbing all existence as we speak" have to do with gameplay/game-mechanics?! Absolutely nothing.

Agree

The Scan Data of all the sorceress in FF8:

Edea
A powerful sorceress and ruler of Galbadia. Her sorceress
powers may be the most powerful in the world.

Edea (Galbadia Garden)
A sorceress bent on conquering the world. Hired Galbadia Garden
forces to destroy SeeD, which stands in her way.

Adel
Esthar's ruler before Laguna and company confined her. Released
by Ultimecia, and gaining strength.

Sorceress
Sorceress from beyond time who appeared due to Time Compression.
Uses magic, but is not very powerful.

Ultimecia
A sorceress trying to change the world by compressing time and
taking power from all sorceresses.

Ultimecia (junctioned to Griever)
Ultimecia junctioned to Griever. A powerful monster that
combines Ultimecia and Griever's forces.

Ultimecia (final form)
Ultimecia, transformed to absorb all time and space. Absorbing
all existence as we speak.

The game states Ultimecia in her final form can absorb all of space and time, you cannot deny this.

as we speak? as who speaks?

also whats important to know, what does the principles of time, space and existence mean to the people? to the perception of some the "World" means a universe or dimension...or it could mean a planet, as in the Earth is our world, excistence to those people could just be their existence, their world, their planet.

The scan sounds very vey basic, is it even credible, for example

Sorceress
Sorceress from beyond time who appeared due to Time Compression.
Uses magic, but is not very powerful.

uses magic but is not very powerful? sounds like the most basic of scans and by the sound of it, the scan itself is an in-game player used piece of equipment, it may just show basic gameplay backgrounding.

Originally posted by SHM
Are you purposefully ignoring what I'm saying? The Scan doesn't show only gameplay information. It gives a little explanation about the character in the story, too.
Hell, what the fu*k "absorbing all existence as we speak" have to do with gameplay/game-mechanics?! Absolutely nothing.

you as thick as shit or something? perhaps...otherwise surely you would realise that I outlined exactley what you said about the scanner:

Not this type of scan. The Scan is an ability you can use, to get more information about the enemy. For example, if you want to know how much HP is still left to kill the enemy, instead of attacking him, you can Scan him.
It's practicaly a scanner.

so you being a fool? or? because all you said about the scan is a gameplay mechanic as far, at least Terry provided some useful information 😬

Originally posted by Burning thought
you as thick as shit or something? perhaps...otherwise surely you would realise that I outlined exactley what you said about the scanner:

so you being a fool? or? because all you said about the scan is a gameplay mechanic as far, at least Terry provided some useful information 😬

*facepalm*

Originally posted by SHM
For example, if you want to know how much HP is still left to kill the enemy, instead of attacking him, you can Scan him.

It was an example! I never said the Scan could only do that.
So before insulting me like a jackass, try paying attention to what I'm saying.

Originally posted by Terryc250
The game states Ultimecia in her final form can absorb all of space and time, you cannot deny this.

But they are, of course.