Originally posted by namorsubby
these guys have a teacher/mentor relationship and are sparring mates. their expert cooperation wouuld be vital.
Cap. is stronger and faster, maybe even more agile than both of them. Than DD's super senses put him over both of them as well. This is two highly skilled and trained human fighters against. A highly skilled and trained super soldier and a mma with unparalleled senses
cap and bats are pretty much even. i think bats is more skilled. i say wildcat takes DD too, but let's say DD is slighty superior.same with cap compared to bats. it's irrelevant IMO. what really puts the icing on the cake is the way these 2 would operate together. they've got far better cooperation on their side. and bats will always have the superior tactics. wildcat plays along, and they win.
Originally posted by namorsubby
cap and bats are pretty much even. i think bats is more skilled. i say wildcat takes DD too, but what really puts the icing on the cake is the way these 2 would operate together. they've got far better cooperation on their side. and bats will always have the superior tactics. wildcat plays along, and they win.
okay fine you make a really good point about the team work. I don't know about Wildcat taking DD though, I feel like DD is underrated, with his superior senses I feel this gives him the upper hand. He could probably read anybodies movements and counter them. At least that is what I think. Granted I do not read much of DD at all. Also Batman and Cap. being equal with no prep and no weapons, I do not think so. Maybe Batman is a more skilled fighter maybe, but Cap. definitely has superior strength and speed. With weapons and gadgets maybe I will give it to Batman, but otherwise I am inclined to give it to Cap.
sorry, changed my statment a bit:
cap and bats are pretty much even. i think bats is more skilled. i say wildcat takes DD too, but let's say DD is slighty superior.same with cap compared to bats. it's irrelevant IMO. what really puts the icing on the cake is the way these 2 would operate together. they've got far better cooperation on their side. and bats will always have the superior tactics. wildcat plays along, and they win.
you've never seen 2 guys in a comic engage seperate dudes while working together smoothly? happens all the time.
btw, i'm sorry if it seems i was trying to imply that dd and cap wouldn't have good teamwork, but i'm confident ted and bruce's would be quite superior. even if the had the disadvantage against their individual opponents, i bellieve their teamwork would see them through.
this is of course just my opinion
i say all opponents are only arguably better than the other. and the teamwork factor may be arguable, but the thing is cap and dd simply don't have the kind of relationship wc and bat have. WC is batman's long-time mentor and sparring partner. they've fought together and know each other well. it would be reasonable to say that their teamwork would be far better, especially considering batman's tendency to worked based on tactics/cooperation.......especially when he feels his team is at a disadvantage.
that's fine.........although they have worked together several times before i doubt they've never worked together against these particular foes.....so yes, you are correct.
it just seems to me that the evidence points to them having better teamwork....it is purely speculation however.
either way, agreeing to disagree is fine with me.🙂