Full Power Tyrant Vs Yuga Khan

Originally posted by Red Hulk
That I haven't seen him job when reading the same comics you have/haven't.

Show me him 'jobbing' when he's weakened.

I said he jobs in general, I wasn't reffering to him jobbing specifically when he is weakened.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

Here, I'll help you say some feats off the top of my head, you'll add onto them since he jobs so much:

He got taken down by some heroes (Thor, Doctor Strange, FF, Avengers).
He got cheapshot Godblasted by Thor after he beat Ego, and Ego saved Thor.

What does that have to do with what I said:

Originally posted by Classic NES

Of course, but if he's always shown to be hungry than they are just providing reasons so he can lose. His hunger in essense is being used as a plot device to write him down, that counts as jobbing.

Originally posted by Classic NES
I said he jobs in general, I wasn't reffering to him jobbing specifically when he is weakened.

What does that have to do with what I said:

That if you can't prove he jobs, then what's the point in saying it?

That's not jobbing... that's being weaker...

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Well then, prove that he jobs in general.

That if you can't prove he jobs, then what's the point in saying it?

Maxing his energies on Thanos shield

Getting smacked by the FF

Getting smacked by Avengers and Alpha Flight

Getting knocked down by a blast from Thanos

Originally posted by Red Hulk

That's not jobbing... that's being weaker...

I think you need to look up the definition of Jobbing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_(professional_wrestling)

Originally posted by Classic NES
Maxing his energies on Thanos shield

Getting smacked by the FF

Getting smacked by Avengers and Alpha Flight

Getting knocked down by a blast from Thanos

I think you need to look up the definition of Jobbing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_(professional_wrestling)

He's never been beaten straight up by the F4 to my knowledge. In fact, he usually ends up beating them, and them having to run and get a plot device to save themselves (Galactus's equipment).

His powers weren't working properly, as well as being hungry. That's only three occurrences of actual jobbing by your definition and Wiki's.
Avengers/FF/Strange
Cheapshot Godblast while fighting Ego
Alpha Flight/Avengers where his powers weren't working properly
And if memory serves me correct, that's the only times he's ever 'straight up' lost to heroes.

He's never been shown impervious to being moved. He took that blast full on without a shield and wasn't hurt, only moved/thrown.

I'm glad you gave me a link that said that the jobbing figure loses... You gave me three showings in the same post to reinforce jobbing, that contradicts this definition. lulz

Although, I find it funny how we call Galactus a jobber because of circumstances, but if that's only when he jobs, then how is that relevant to Tyrant?

Originally posted by Red Hulk
He one-shotted Thanos... the specifics of how his powers work was poorly written. It completely goes against his entire history.

That crosses over to the realm of jobbing.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

He's never been beaten straight up by the F4 to my knowledge. In fact, he usually ends up beating them, and them having to run and get a plot device to save themselves (Galactus's equipment).

I didn't say they beat him , just smacked him around. That shouldn't be possible with it something writing him down.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

His powers weren't working properly, as well as being hungry. That's only three occurrences of actual jobbing by your definition and Wiki's.
Avengers/FF/Strange
Cheapshot Godblast while fighting Ego
Alpha Flight/Avengers
And if memory serves me correct, that's the only times he's ever straight up lost to heroes.

He doesn't have to lose you know, because constant bad showings are jobbing feats as well.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

He's never been shown impervious to being moved.

He doesn't have to, that blast should have not knocked him down based on the level of power he has. Being impervious to damage has nothing to do with it.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

I'm glad you gave me a link that said that the jobbing figure loses... contradicts this definition. lulz

Your being pedantic, I used that definition as an example not a rule. Jobbing isn't only limited to loses, just bad showings in general. Also, see the red highlights, all those happen because he's written down. . .That's jobbing.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Although, I find it funny how we call Galactus a jobber because of circumstances, but if that's only when he jobs, then how is that relevant to Tyrant?

It's relevant to those who keep using FP Tyrant vs Galactus as a pretext to hype him up. Because if that's the case than we would have alot of characters who are the same status that people are making Galactus out to be.

Originally posted by Classic NES
That crosses over to the realm of jobbing.

It didn't even make sense, and no other showing that I can ever recall has had him deplete energy like that in one little palm blast, let alone a big blast.

Originally posted by Classic NES
I didn't say they beat him , just smacked him around. That shouldn't be possible with it something writing him down.

Or can you show me Galactus having the power of the Blob, and being unmovable on the ground?

Originally posted by Classic NES
He doesn't have to lose you know, because constant bad showings are jobbing feats as well.

Either way, that one was already filed under the loss column.

Originally posted by Classic NES
He doesn't have to, that blast should have not knocked him down based on the level of power he has. Being impervious to damage has nothing to do with it.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Your being pedantic, I used that definition as an example not a rule. Jobbing isn't only limited to loses, just bad showings in general. Also, see the red highlights, all those happen because he's written down. . .That's jobbing.

Taking into account everything mentioned so far, and using your logic to explain jobbing. He only has 6 'jobbing feats' out of in excess hundreds of appearances. Should we ignore all his regular showings (hundreds) in favor of the vastly outnumbered 'jobbing' occurrences?
Because that's terrific logic as well.

Originally posted by Classic NES
It's relevant to those who keep using FP Tyrant vs Galactus as a pretext to hype him up. Because if that's the case than we would have alot of characters who are the same status that people are making Galactus out to be.

What are they making him out to be exactly?

meh, iirc darkseid when given the opportunity to kill a healthy galactus with his omega beams was shown to be less effective in that endeavor than norrin was.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
No, it goes to pis. Plot induced stupidity.

It didn't even make sense, and no other showing that I can ever recall has had him deplete energy like that in one little palm blast, let alone a big blast.

PIS and jobbing aren't mutually exclusive, that's a redundant point. 😬

Originally posted by Red Hulk

All they have managed to do, was move him... not hurt him.Why shouldn't it have knocked him down? Like I said, he's never been impervious to being moved in his career.
Thanos surprised him with what seemed like a full power blast, he got thrown, but not hurt.
Well, if he's not hurt, then all you have is him being thrown due to a blast... I don't understand how this can do anything in a battle, and actually taking into account Thanos' power level; how it can be a low showing as well.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

And if they have explanations. . .

Jobbing can happen with explanations it's called cleaned Jobbing. We are talking about character history, if the most powerful Character in the universe is always being smacked around by far weaker foes on a regular basis because something always comes up that's chalked up as jobbing.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

You gave me a page definition that only talked about losses as counting.

I repeat that was an example not a rule.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

Taking into account everything mentioned so far, and using your logic to explain jobbing. He only has 6 'jobbing feats' out of in excess hundreds of appearances. Should we ignore all his regular showings (hundreds) in favor of the vastly outnumbered 'jobbing' occurrences?
Because that's terrific logic as well.

Those are only feats so far, I can pull out more. Like him being surprised by missles.

-Smacked around by DP Tyrant
-Smacked around By rachael
-Stalemated by sentry lol

Originally posted by Red Hulk

But you're only using fights with circumstances to call him a jobber , and downplay Galactus's feat, and Tyrant. It is completely irrelevant to Tyrant, as non of the circumstances came into play during the battle.

Except I wasn't talking about circumstances rather character history which is much more profound. If a character is all powerful, but always loses or gets smacked around chances are circumstances are bias.

Originally posted by Classic NES
PIS and jobbing aren't mutually exclusive, that's a redundant point. 😬

Either way, the Thanos thing made absolutely no sense at all.

Originally posted by Classic NES
They knocked him down which shouldn't even be possible because he's experience things that are far more powerful than the blast. Like going in the core of a star which is a nuclear furnace and he was fine. Unless Thanos was emitting energy that was superior to that I do not see how that would matter if he was surprised. It would be like saying I could hurt superman with a bullet if I catch him off guard.

Of course he was fine, just like he was fine when he was knocked down by Thanos, and the F4. In fact, he wasn't hurt in either.
And I wouldn't put it past Thanos to shoot full out blasts far more powerful than a nova.

You could if he had kryptonite poisoning, and then that would be jobbing apparently... either way, the difference between being moved, and being hurt is vast.

😐

Originally posted by Classic NES
Jobbing can happen with explanations it's called cleaned Jobbing. We are talking about character history, if the most powerful Character in the universe is always being smacked around by far weaker foes on a regular basis because something always comes up that's chalked up as jobbing.

Either way, he's not always smacked around by weaker foes, in fact, he's only been smacked around twice. Although smacked around is now heroes managing to move you, so...

Originally posted by Classic NES
I repeat that was an example not a rule.

If we're going to insert our own versions of it, then I'll insert mine:

Losing when you shouldn't.

And that's a definition that's actually relevant to the forum.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Those are only feats [b]so far, I can pull out more. Like him being surprised by missles.

-Smacked around by DP Tyrant
-Smacked around By rachael
-Stalemated by sentry lol[/B]

Was this when he destroyed the human missiles, or when he destroyed the Shi'ar missiles unaffected?
Or when he got surprised that the humans attacked him, and got angry? Unaffected, unmoved, just pissed off.

Edit:
DP Tyrant? Lulz. Anyway, he only managed to reverse his tech, but otherwise, he was getting owned in the battle. As well as DP Tyrant being extremely powerful, and no where near comparable to any Earth beings. Although I find it funny how you brought up Tyrant, when before you were trying to downplay Tyrant.

Rachel? Lulz. Rachel is an abstract level being... or extremely high up there.

Sentry is only from a statement Spider-Man said... we know nothing about this, and we can safetly see from Sentry's current showings that it's a load of shit from Spidey.

Either way, I can't see how so few feats in comparison to his normal feats can override an average... but apparently it does.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Except I wasn't talking about circumstances rather character history which is much more profound. If a character is all powerful, but always loses chances are circumstances are bias.

Even in character history (which would only be relevant to weak Galactus if we follow this discussion), he isn't a jobber.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Not with your definition... jobbing ranges anywhere from losing, to being moved.

Strawman

Jobbing is consistent low showings, mack.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

They only managed to knock him down... seriously. And every knockdown they've caused him has been by surprise...

F4 (Thanos as well, and Thing has only manged to move him three times off the top of my head; one with Galactus's own tech, one when Galactus was distracted and slingshotted into him, and another time when he lifted his foot). He's only 20 some tons after all.

Doesn't matter how they did it because they should not have been able too even make him stagger. The only exception is maybe with tech. Furthermore he's taken more damage without flinching, damage that is far above anything they can throw [Going into stars]. Furthermore Galactus has cosmic awareness, how the heck does he get surprised? Bottom line is Galactus is written down for the heroes to win.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

Of course he was fine, just like he was fine when he was knocked down by Thanos, and the F4. In fact, he wasn't hurt in either.
And I wouldn't put it past Thanos to shoot full out blasts far more powerful than a nova.

He was fine as he wasn't knocked down, has nothing to do with him being hurt. If he can stand without flinching in the core why can he not stand Thanos blast? If it's nova prove it.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

You could if he had kryptonite poisoning, and then that would be jobbing apparently... either way, the difference between being moved, and being hurt is vast.

😐

Red herring, Kryptonite ain't got jack to do with what I said. Are you saying that surprise can cause a being who can walk in to a star without flinching can be knocked down by attacks with far less damage?

Originally posted by Red Hulk

Then it's automatically ignored on the forum because the same circumstances won't arise unless the thread dictates it.

We do not count low showings, but a character who has as much lows a Big G does not have as much credibility as a character who does not have much low showings.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

Either way, he's not always smacked around by weaker foes, in fact, he's only been smacked around twice. Although smacked around is now heroes managing to move you, so...

If by move you mean while he's flat on his arse are staggering in awkward positions then okay. 🙂

He's been smacked by: FF on his first appearance, on Byrnes run of FF, he stalemated Sentry, was smacked by Rachael, knocked down by Thanos and maxed out on Thnaos shield, Cloned and said clone was stated to be more powerful than the original only to lose. . .More than twice.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

That was the full definition. Everything else is just other people inserting opinions.

Wikipedia isn't the authority of any definition nor was it intended to be by myself. It's not really a credible source which is why I used it as an example.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

If we're going to insert our own versions of it, then I'll insert mine:

Losing when you shouldn't.

And that's a definition that's actually relevant to the forum.

Character history ain't relevant in this forum? Because if several reputable writers are writing Galactus down is that not gonna effect how marvel presents him?

Then the Wikipedia definition disagrees with you because it states

Originally posted by Red Hulk

By all means, pull them out. Because it seems that any minor low feat, or not even a low feat (no matter what happens next), is him jobbing. I wonder if I can turn Hulk, and Thor into a jobber using this logic.

Sure if Hulk constantly loses to army ants considering that's what the people who Galactus get's smacked around by should be to him.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

Actually, Surfer's a jobber too, since his entire stay on Earth was apparently him depowered, and he has had low feats in that time frame.

Agree'd. 🙂

Originally posted by Red Hulk

Hell, Superman could pretty much be qualified as a jobber. Hmm... this logic seems flawless.

Supes is the most inconsistent character in comics.

Was this when he destroyed the human missiles

No, when he had to use a train to attack them and was surprised by missles despite having cosmic awareness.

or when he destroyed the Shi'ar missiles unaffected?

That's expected 😬

Or when he got surprised that the humans attacked him, and got angry? Unaffected, unmoved, just pissed off.

Again, that's expected.

Edit:
DP Tyrant? Lulz.

Anyway, he only managed to reverse his tech, but otherwise, he was getting owned in the battle. As well as DP Tyrant being extremely powerful, and no where near comparable to any Earth beings. Although I find it funny how you brought up Tyrant, when before you were trying to downplay Tyrant.

In his depowered state he shouldn't be able to do jack to big G.

Rachel? Lulz. Rachel is an abstract level being... or extremely high up there.

Phoenix is an abstract but the Rachael Pheonix version is not on par with Big G.

Sentry is only from a statement Spider-Man said... we know nothing about this, and we can safetly see from Sentry's current showings that it's a load of shit from Spidey.

Whether it happens or not isn't my point, it's the fact that they have to write stuff into the canon that defaces the character. It happens consistently which is why he is a jobber.

Either way, I can't see how so few feats in comparison to his normal feats can override an average... but apparently it does.

I'm talking about his fights, though. Not his feats in general because that's where we mostly gauge jobbing. So far I've named over six instances, that's alot.

But you brought it up to try and downplay Tyrant. It is completely irrelevant to Tyrant.

Even in character history (which would only be relevant to weak Galactus if we follow this discussion), he isn't a jobber.

I didn't downplay him, I think him busting galaxies with big G is impressive. But, of we are gonna say he's tough because h makes Big G struggle than the same should apply to everyone who has done so.

He is a jobber based on chracter history.

Yuga owns no way he loses.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Strawman

Jobbing is consistent low showings, mack.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Doesn't matter how they did it because they should not have been able too even make him stagger. The only exception is maybe with tech. Furthermore he's taken more damage without flinching, damage that is far above anything they can throw [Going into stars]. Furthermore Galactus has cosmic awareness, how the heck does he get surprised? Bottom line is Galactus is written down for the heroes to win.

Because he's not paying attention, and thus doesn't care.

He was normal powered when he entered the star, and he was being moved when he was on the ground, and when he wasn't ready. He was flying when he entered the star. As well as a star not being so impressive... Surfer flies through stars, Drax has been flown through stars (and has ripped out the core of a small sun), Thor has been in the core of the sun, Surfer has been hit by a Nova, Superman has been hit by a nova... etc.

He's weakened, not written down. And the heroes don't win... and that's the problem.

Originally posted by Classic NES
He was fine as he wasn't knocked down, has nothing to do with him being hurt. If he can stand without flinching in the core why can he not stand Thanos blast? If it's nova prove it.

The fact that Thanos can cause Surfer the most pain he's ever felt as a spirit, when Surfer has taken a nova in his first appearance is enough in itself. He was able to take out Thor with eyeblasts, when Thor has walked, talked, and fought in the sun.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Red herring, Kryptonite ain't got jack to do with what I said. Are you saying that surprise can cause a being who can walk in to a star without flinching can be knocked down by attacks with far less damage?

Apparently it can, as blasts work differently in comics. And the star wasn't throwing Galactus's own tech at him, and trying to lift him.

Originally posted by Classic NES
We do not count low showings, but a character who has as much lows a Big G does not have as much credibility as a character who does not have much low showings.

Originally posted by Classic NES
If by move you mean while he's flat on his arse are staggering in awkward positions then okay. 🙂

He's been smacked by: FF on his first appearance, on Byrnes run of FF, he stalemated Sentry, was smacked by Rachael, knocked down by Thanos and maxed out on Thnaos shield, Cloned and said clone was stated to be more powerful than the original only to lose. . .More than twice.

He's been knocked down by Thing throwing Galactus's machine at him while he was trying to arm it.

He had his foot lifted by Thing after Thing was punching him to no effect, and Galactus was trying to crush Surfer.

He stalemated Sentry according to Spider-Man, and is in no way definitive proof. It could have been a one-panel fight for all you know. And Sentry hasn't shown the power to even touch the weakest Galactus we've seen in comics.

How the hell is Rachel even being brought up? She's the f*cking Phoenix. You might as well go a step higher, and tell of how Galactus was beaten by Thanos with the IG.

He only got knocked down... again, not hurt. And maxing out of Thanos's shield made no sense at all. At least the others have explanations.

Even saying Omega was more powerful than Galactus... he was only said as such on his ship, and he had heavily slowed reactions.
As well as it only being statements.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Wikipedia isn't the authority of any definition nor was it intended to be by myself. It's not really a credible source which is why I used it as an example.

Certainly seems like you used it as the definition.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Character history ain't relevant in this forum? Because if several reputable writers are writing Galactus down is that not gonna effect how marvel presents him?

Then the Wikipedia definition disagrees with you because it states

OK.

Anyway, can you finally answer this question:

How can one be a jobber when your good showings heavily outweigh your bad ones?

Originally posted by Classic NES
Sure if Hulk constantly loses to army ants considering that's what the people who Galactus get's smacked around by should be to him.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Agree'd. 🙂

Supes is the most inconsistent character in comics.

I see this is pointless then.

Originally posted by Classic NES
No, when he had to use a train to attack them and was surprised by missles despite having cosmic awareness.

Ya well, he was in the middle of a monologue.

Originally posted by Classic NES
That's expected 😬

Originally posted by Classic NES
Again, that's expected.

Originally posted by Classic NES
In his depowered state he shouldn't be able to do jack to big G.

He only managed to control Galactus's tech because he's a master of biotechnology.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Phoenix is an abstract but the Rachael Pheonix version is not on par with Big G.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Whether it happens or not isn't my point, it's the fact that they have to write stuff into the canon that defaces the character. It happens consistently which is why he is a jobber.

Originally posted by Classic NES
I'm talking about his fights, though. Not his feats in general because that's where we mostly gauge jobbing. So far I've named over six instances, that's alot.

Over 6 instances is nothing... what, how many showings do you think Galactus has, 20? He's got at least 30 fights... alone. Ignoring just random showings of power, manipulation of energy, absorption, etc.

Originally posted by Classic NES
I didn't downplay him, I think him busting galaxies with big G is impressive. But, of we are gonna say he's tough because h makes Big G struggle than the same should apply to everyone who has done so.

He is a jobber based on chracter history.

I got to say, you're not close there, and it's bordering on annoying. I'm almost tempted to post everything I have in my Photobucket just because of it.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
Well then, that rules out Galactus as being a jobber, as he doesn't have consistent low showings, he's got showings where he's been moved apparently... and three where he's been beaten by lesser heroes.

Showings where he is smacked around and moved by lesser heroes many times is low showings and therefore count as jobbing.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

Says what? Besides, one was with Galactus's own tech

I don't have a problem with that one like I said.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

, and the other was lifting up a 20 ton being when you're a 100 or so tonner

Unless he wanted to be carried I don't see how they can lift him against his will considering the abilities he has. 20 tons, 1 tons, 5 pounds, it really doesn't matter.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

(not counting when the Avengers/FF/Strange fought him). It wasn't staggering.

Still moved against his will.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

Because he's not paying attention, and thus doesn't care.

Wouldn't matter if he wasn't paying attention and he obviously cared seeing he retaliated.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

He was normal powered when he entered the star,and he was being moved when he was on the ground, and when he wasn't ready. He was flying when he entered the star.

So, your saying he has to brace himself or else he will be knocked by attacks with far less damage? I guess supes better not blink or a regular bullet will hurt him.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

As well as a star not being so impressive... Surfer flies. . .

Stay on topic., we are talking about Galactus being knocked by hits that should not even make him blink.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

He's weakened, not written down. And the heroes don't win... and that's the problem.

They shouldn't win, they shouldn't even put pressure on him or make him stagger. Weakened Big G has fought off the In betweener and had a good showing against him. The same inbetweener who is way above most of the people who have knocked Big G down.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

You can't win a fight by knocking someone down...

That's nice, but we are talking about more than winning. You do not have to win to give someone a low showing.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

The fact that Thanos can cause Surfer. . .

Don't care back to Galactus.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

Kryptonite would be Superman's weakness. Which is about as relevant as bringing up Galactus being weakened.

Hunger shouldn't weaken Galactus as much as supes. Based on the fact that a hungry big G has fought the likes of the inbetweener and a watcher while hungry.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

Apparently it can, as blasts work differently in comics. And the star wasn't throwing Galactus's own tech at him, and trying to lift him.

A star's core is equivalent to several nuclear detonations, that would do more than knock you you down. Prove a blast works differently and would be able to knock someone who can take inside a stars core without flinching.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

He doesn't have that many low showings though, and we don't count pis on the forum (which would be every time he's weakened).

So, you agree that all his weakened matches are PIS? Cool than that means they are also viable to be called jobbing since you yourself said jobbing is when a character loses when he should not lose

Originally posted by Red Hulk

Yes. He wasn't hurt in any of them.

He's been knocked down by Thing throwing Galactus's machine at him while he was trying to arm it.

Unless that machines weight surpasses the conditions of the core of a star than it's a low showing.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

He had his foot lifted by Thing after Thing was punching him to no effect, and Galactus was trying to crush Surfer.

Yes, because there is no way he could have seen that coming despite having the power cosmic.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

He stalemated Sentry according to Spider-Man, and is in no way definitive proof. It could have been a one-panel fight for all you know. And Sentry hasn't shown the power to even touch the weakest Galactus we've seen in comics.

So, that statement is like I said casting a bad light on big G. . .cool.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

How the hell is Rachel even being brought up? She's the f*cking Phoenix.

The weakest one at that, we've seen some versions of phoenix struggle against heralds [Jean vs Fire lord]. So, being the Phoenix doesn't automatically mean she's high-level and lulz at making an analogy with I.G. and Rachael phoenix.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

He only got knocked down... again, not

Shouldn't be possible like I said many times.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

Even saying Omega was more powerful than Galactus... he was only said as such on his ship, and he had heavily slowed reactions.
As well as it only being statements.

Omega existing in the first place is silly and losing is even sillier.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

You used it to rule something out that I said...

Certainly seems like you used it as the definition.

Even though I stated more than twice that it was an example? How could it possibly sem that way when I keep saying it's not The definition?

Originally posted by Red Hulk

Unless it has to do with battles.
Evidently it hasn't, so what's the point there?

It is though.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

Anyway, can you finally answer this question:

How can one be a jobber when your good showings heavily outweigh your bad ones?

Doesn't apply to Big G.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

He does though. He gets knocked around by people with human level strength when he's supposed to be the strongest character in comics.

No, he doesn't and even if he does the gap is not comparable to Big G.

Originally posted by Red Hulk
He was surprised that they attacked him, not because of what they hit him with.

Which is why he covers his face with his hands and other exaggerated attacks?

Ya well, he was in the middle of a monologue.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

I brought up two missile parts.

That's the scene you brought up... 😐

Okay. . .I didn't say anything about who brought them up. I said that it's expected for them to have no effect, because if they did it makes no sense.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

He didn't.

He only managed to control Galactus's tech because he's a master of biotechnology.

A power which comes from Big G himself, since Tyrant was created in Galactus's image.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

By that time, I recall Rachel having the full power of the Phoenix.
And Galactus was ready to feed when Rachel attacked him.

Scan for the statements in red?

Originally posted by Red Hulk

They only wrote it in because it was Sentry's first appearance, and they wanted him to look like a God. They wanted people to go 'wow'.
Which is also why they had him beat a being that was beating every hero on Earth.

That's what jobbers do, make heroes look good. Thanks for agreeing with me. 🙂

Originally posted by Red Hulk

In his fights? So, you've mentioned what? Nine 'low feats' taking into account everything?

First it was six than it was nine. The point is the number keeps growing and I betcha I can find more.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

Over 6 instances is nothing... what, how many showings do you think Galactus has, 20? He's got at least 30 fights... .

I betcha I can find more.

Originally posted by Red Hulk

But he's tough because he's made normal Galactus struggle.
Everyone else has annoyed hungry Galactus.

Galactus is a jobber, like you said they do stuff to make a certain character look tough I.E. jobbing. 🙂

Originally posted by Red Hulk

I got to say, you're not close there, and it's bordering on annoying. I'm almost tempted to post everything I have in my Photobucket just because of it.

Do as you will.

I really don't think Galactus jobbed when he fought Tyrant. In his first appearance it was stated that a battle between the two of these guys rocked an entire universe, this is something that even the Inbetweener vs Galactus failed to do.

Tyrant was created to be a beast, and his powerset seemed to be a bane to energy manipulators based on his various showings. I don't think Darkseid would even be a slight challenge for a full powered Tyrant, and Yuga's power level was challenged by Darkseid therefore it seems to me like these two are on different levels, and Yuga would be overmatched.

Yuga was never challenged by darkseids power ever,a new god weaker then yuga has contained universe destroying energies,yuga khan depowered gods like that with a hand wave.