Wolverine Villains vs Symbiotes

Started by Battlehammer2 pages

Originally posted by SamZED
I was always under the impression that the REASON Wolverine can survive and even win a fight against Omega Red is because of his hf. Also, since when is OR iclass 90? Not saying I dont believe you, its just I didn't know. Also Venom usually has unexpected reactions when someone's trying to effect him somehow, Ghostrider's ps backfired at him, toxins that were supposed to kill him gave him extra voices, A magician with Doc Strange's level telepathy couldn't control Venom. Just saying.
Also there was a guy (forgot his name) who had a touch of death, anything he touches dies, he tried that on Venom and it didn't kill the symbiote.

Wolverine never beaten omega red with out a plot devices. You are thinking about the death spores there different, which venom may or may not be able to withstand, but the death factor a lot different it like morlun power on steriods. Omega red tends not to uses his death factor on wolverine becauses he wishes to make him suffer, thats really the only reason wolverien does not get destroyed in pannel or two.

Omega red always been crazy strong, he shown to holding colossus to the point colossus was powerless.

There really no reaosn it should not work, it enevr failed as long as there enegery/life force in the body he can take it away and uses it to amp him self. Making him insanly powerful.

Toxin could take out Venom and Carnage alone, Carnage at one point took groups of people to stop him. I see them taking the majority.

Originally posted by SamZED
Cant say anything about Toxin or Carnage but Venom (Brock) has been taking punches from the likes of Hulk and Juggernaut and laughing at'em. There's no way to tell if the life draining thing would work on the symbiotes until we see him try but they have a powerful HFs so I really doubt it would.

Didnt namor 3 shot venom?

Originally posted by carver9
Didnt namor 3 shot venom?

That was Gargan Venom. I could 3 shot Gargan Venom..

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Toxin could take out Venom and Carnage alone
Agreed on the Carnage part, but Toxin can only take Carnage alone. He lost when he fought both of them at the same time.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Wolverine never beaten omega red with out a plot devices. You are thinking about the death spores there different, which venom may or may not be able to withstand, but the death factor a lot different it like morlun power on steriods. Omega red tends not to uses his death factor on wolverine becauses he wishes to make him suffer, thats really the only reason wolverien does not get destroyed in pannel or two.

Omega red always been crazy strong, he shown to holding colossus to the point colossus was powerless.

There really no reaosn it should not work, it enevr failed as long as there enegery/life force in the body he can take it away and uses it to amp him self. Making him insanly powerful.

Ah my bad, I really was thinking about the death spores. In that case I guess OR gives team one the majority. But im still givving team 2 some wins If something crazy happens, with symbiotes you never know. In planet of the symbiotes its been said that they can never truely die unless they do it willingly (commit suicide)😐

Originally posted by Battlehammer
depends really how much the symbiot are effected by cis. Also though people love to say it won't Omega red death factor would be devistating

Thats what im thinking Death Factor FTW.

Originally posted by Digi
Thunderclap? You know a character has to be close to or beyond class 100 for a thunderclap to have serious effects, right? You don't see Luke Cage t-clapping foes into submission, for example. The lowest strength I've ever seen deliver a convincing t-clap was Thing, who is 80+ depending on what source you believe for his strength level.

No clue who wins. But it wouldn't be via thunderclap.

Doc Samson is class 75 and ive seen him do it.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

Omega red always been crazy strong, he shown to holding colossus to the point colossus was powerless.

You sure his DF and spores werent weaking Collosus?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Thats what im thinking Death Factor FTW.

You sure his DF and spores werent weaking Collosus?

Spores dont work on colossus.

He dident uses the DF the first time he did it.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Toxin could take out Venom and Carnage alone, Carnage at one point took groups of people to stop him. I see them taking the majority.

Omega red uses to stomp teams of x-men rather effortlessly.

Originally posted by SamZED

Agreed on the Carnage part, but Toxin can only take Carnage alone. He lost when he fought both of them at the same time.

No, I'm pretty sure he creamed both of them. Either way he's more than Venom or Carnage.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Omega red uses to stomp teams of x-men rather effortlessly.
Which Xteams are this? Becuase a very high number of them could stomp Omega red in a KMC fight? Do you mean them being caught off gaurd? If that's the case I can use Spiderman and secret wars... not pretty. Omega red isn't on Toxin's level, and not really even Carnage, but his deathspores might give him more of a chance. Scans and issue numbers, I'm reading up all claims made on the forum this point out. I'm sure he's done it as a villain to introduce him, but I want the context of what was happening.