You forgot to add "in your opinion", as In My Opinion, Cap would eventually take both (his shield is a Great item for both offense and defense) and Batman in time takes IF (hes ALOT more than just HTH, Bruce is) and loses to Wolverine. Again, thats MY opinion, and notice Im not telling you youre wrong for disagreeing with me. 🙂
But your opinion is wrong. I am not gunna sugar coat the fact yoru extreemly mistaken.
First how capt going to beat wolverine? with time? really how much time do you think he can go with out beign stabbed?
I mean you do realize Capt facing a foe who just as skill, more expereince as good if not better physically and has a healing factor that lets him take 100 claws punches. But you some how think capt going to prodcues that amount of damage before he hit by some one just as skilled and who likly faster or a the very least euqual.
now tell me how that makes senses to you that capt can logicall take the majoity vs a carbon copy who needs one hit to to pritty much end it and can take hits from him all day.........
Batman does not really have much choses you realize IF is phsycaillly superior to him in ever way and jusr as skilled and can shoot range chi blast...........but it makes senses to you that batman wins?
My God, that is one of the best lines Ive ever read in any Vs Battle Thread.
My Opinion Is Wrong. Hahahaha, I tell you man, you are a trip.
Im not even going to go into how I think (or is that, how I KNOW? 😛) this would end up, as you wont listen to any of it, and why bother, anything I say is Wrong anyway.
Originally posted by DTMYou were wrong in thinking Iron Fist can't use his IF too often, which I assume is because you haven't been reading Iron Fist comics this year.
Im wrong in thinking Batman or Cap would beat IF? Not any "in your opinion" or anything, thats fact, IF beats Batman and Cap and thats all there is?
Originally posted by DTM
My God, that is one of the best lines Ive ever read in any Vs Battle Thread.My Opinion Is Wrong. Hahahaha, I tell you man, you are a trip.
Im not even going to go into how I think (or is that, how I KNOW? 😛) this would end up, as you wont listen to any of it, and why bother, anything I say is Wrong anyway.
Those are your opinions (if IF can use his IF more often now, I stand corrected), but as for who beats who, I feel my thoughts are just as valid as anyone elses, and for them to simply be called Wrong is downright insulting (but hey, Ive been doing the Vs Battle thing for Years now, so Ill just take what Im given here, and learn to avoid threads with certain members on them in order to avoid having my valid opinions being called Wrong because they go against anothers).
Originally posted by DTM
Those are your opinions (if IF can use his IF more often now, I stand corrected), but as for who beats who, I feel my thoughts are just as valid as anyone elses, and for them to simply be called Wrong is downright insulting (but hey, Ive been doing the Vs Battle thing for Years now, so Ill just take what Im given here, and learn to avoid threads with certain members on them in order to avoid having my valid opinions being called Wrong because they go against anothers).
Hey man. Please don't take it like that. If you read comics (and I'm pretty sure you do), you can come to conclusions of an outcome base on a characters consistence feats and the times where they are at their limits. I try to respect everyone opinions. You are free to feel what you want. But sometimes you just have to see all the factors of a fight, characters abilities, and how well they use them. IF and Wolverine's abilities would be very hard for most street levelers to get by.
Originally posted by Mindset
Did I call you're opinion wrong, or your statement about the limitations of his powers wrong?I believe it was the latter.
Now if that wasn't directed at me, fine, but you really should be talking to the person you have a problem with, not me.
I wasnt talking about you, nor did I even hint that that comment was directed at you, so not sure why youre getting so defensive really.
Originally posted by Mindset
Marvelknight, I remember a time when you woulda gave Batman the win, what happened?
Sometimes you just have to except the fact that your favorite character can't always win. I've also been reading a hell of a lot more comics (mainly DC comics), so now I have a better understanding on characters abilities and their limits. I have about 360 DC comic books now. Back then I only had maybe around 50-60 comics.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Hey man. Please don't take it like that. If you read comics (and I'm pretty sure you do), you can come to conclusions of an outcome base on a characters consistence feats and the times where they are at their limits. I try to respect everyone opinions. You are free to feel what you want. But sometimes you just have to see all the factors of a fight, characters abilities, and how well they use them. IF and Wolverine's abilities would be very hard for most street levelers to get by.
See, now this guy I like. 🙂
First off, I wouldnt call Cap a street leveler. The guy has fought solo and alone, many a superpowered being, and wins almost every single time. His shield allows him to block even Wolverines claws, and attack back with blunt force that even Iron Man can feel (Wolverine in general is more vulnerable to blunt attacks, especially those that rattle his head, over sharp or edges ones which he can heal Very Quickly).
To me (notice the To Me here guys) Cap is a better fighter than Logan, hes also noticeably faster and more agile. Its his superior speed, agility, superior overall fighting ability, and mastery at using his Shield (both for offense and defense) that I believe he eventually beats Logan (and moreso on Iron Fist personally).
Ill change my earlier statement and say Batman and Iron Fist are a relative wash (with Batman ending with a slightly better win record overall), with Logan beating Bruce more than not. Batman has LOADS of things to bring to a fight other than martial arts prowess. It will be through his other advantages that I see him beating Danny more than not, again slightly, though not Logan.
Overall, I stand by my earlier vote and think Cap and Bats take it maybe 5.5 / 10, in a Very Close match up here. 🙂
Originally posted by DTM
See, now this guy I like. 🙂First off, I wouldnt call Cap a street leveler. The guy has fought solo and alone, many a superpowered being, and wins almost every single time. His shield allows him to block even Wolverines claws, and attack back with blunt force that even Iron Man can feel (Wolverine in general is more vulnerable to blunt attacks, especially those that rattle his head, over sharp or edges ones which he can heal Very Quickly).
To me (notice the To Me here guys) Cap is a better fighter than Logan, hes also noticeably faster and more agile. Its his superior speed, agility, superior overall fighting ability, and mastery at using his Shield (both for offense and defense) that I believe he eventually beats Logan (and moreso on Iron Fist personally).
Ill change my earlier statement and say Batman and Iron Fist are a relative wash (with Batman ending with a slightly better win record overall), with Logan beating Bruce more than not. Batman has LOADS of things to bring to a fight other than martial arts prowess. It will be through his other advantages that I see him beating Danny more than not, again slightly, though not Logan.
Overall, I stand by my earlier vote and think Cap and Bats take it maybe 5.5 / 10, in a Very Close match up here. 🙂
I see your point. Cap and Bats have beat foes with much greater power than them.
You can believe the other all you want your still wrong.
Opinion can be wrong and your is.
hell you can have the opinion that batman beats superman in h2h fight, does not make it true.
just like you think a Capt can defeat the majority of the time a character who A is just as skilled, B is as good physcially or superior, C who has vastly more experience, D who can one shot Capt if he hits him, E Has damage soaking capabilities beyond what Capt can produce damage wises him self.