Iceman vs WWH

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Iceman isn't just making it cold. He's halting kinetic energy, and he can do so until there's virtually no molecular motion i.e. absolute zero.

Iceman isn't just encasing things in ice. He's halting the kinetic energy of the matter of things.

Hulk not going "Brrr" when it's winter means shit all.

It doesn't matter that Hulk is superuberawesomely teh strongerest!!1!!!1 Not everything boils down to a physical confrontation. 😐

True, but Iceman brings kinetic energies to a halt on a molecular level how?
By a rapid change in temperature....and this has been proved to have no effect on Hulk's cellular activity.....even at subatomic levels.

So...yeah what he could do is likely virtually freeze everything around WWH...but this won't do jack to WWH himself....and yeah, WWH would break out anyway.

His upgrade lets him do it. 😐

Originally posted by *T*
His upgrade lets him do it. 😐

No it doesn't. ❌

"Iceman brings kinetic energy to a halt on a molecular level how?" Is a redundant question.

Iceman controls molecular kinetic energy. That's his power.

Iceman doesn't change temperature to halt kinetic energy.
Iceman halts kinetic energy to change temperatures.

Anyone with a basic understanding of what 'temperature' is should realise that.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
True, but Iceman brings kinetic energies to a halt on a molecular level how?
By a rapid change in temperature....and this has been proved to have no effect on Hulk's cellular activity.....even at subatomic levels.

So...yeah what he could do is likely virtually freeze everything around WWH...but this won't do jack to WWH himself....and yeah, WWH would break out anyway.

Iceman can do as X said, halting the kinetic motion of Hulk's cells. But if you want to talk about the old fashioned way:
http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theincrediblehulkv2336205xk.jpg
http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theincrediblehulkv233621e1xk.jpg

And this was WAAAAAAAAY before Bobby got his "upgrade". Though in that same vein this isnt WWH.

But still, Iceman turns WWH into water and the case is closed ermm

Or do something along the lines of this:
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenn41p143oa.jpg

Or better yet as X said this:
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iceman13gv.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iceman20rs.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iceman32ns.jpg

Originally posted by horrorwolf
No it doesn't. ❌

hulk smash mister frosty

Originally posted by Blair Wind

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Iceman can do as X said, halting the kinetic motion of Hulk's cells. But if you want to talk about the old fashioned way:
http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theincrediblehulkv2336205xk.jpg
http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=theincrediblehulkv233621e1xk.jpg

And this was WAAAAAAAAY before Bobby got his "upgrade". Though in that same vein this isnt WWH.

But still, Iceman turns WWH into water and the case is closed ermm

Or do something along the lines of this:
http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenn41p143oa.jpg

Or better yet as X said this:
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iceman13gv.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iceman20rs.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iceman32ns.jpg

None of which even harmed Hulk whatsoever.
And as mentioned WWH is invulnerable to cold on a subatomic level. again...this wouldn't do jack to World War Hulk...but piss him off.

Good scans though.

Originally posted by *T*
Yes it does. Its his power. 😐

but WWH currently renders it completely useless against him directly. Cold has no effect on Hulk's cellular activity.

What the scans show is exactly what I said, freezing everything around Hulk....and doing absolutely nothing damage-wise to Hulk whatsoever.

Ironic that those scans show exactly what I mentioned earlier.

..imprisoning Hulk in blocks of ice.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
but WWH currently renders it completely useless against him directly. Cold has no effect on Hulk's cellular activity.

What the scans show is exactly what I said, freezing everything around Hulk....and doing absolutely nothing damage-wise to Hulk whatsoever.

Ironic that those scans show exactly what I mentioned earlier.

..imprisoning Hulk in blocks of ice.

Its not ironic...I choose them because you said Hulk would break free. Obviously he did not.

Obviously, you did not look at the scans I presented. One is not even about "cold" its him directly dehydrating someone by stealing all of the water in their body and making himself a new one. How is Hulk going to deal with his entire "juice", anything liquid, being ripped away from him?

As for "energy" Iceman froze the heat beams coming from Stranger (someone who can match Silver Surfer), and also froze an entire Celestial Ship (every single atom of it).

So, your assessment that Iceman is nothing more than a cold projector is false and frankly ignorant when the others have told you otherwise.

Besides to end this silly argument:
http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hvsfffdcp0005ci2.jpg
Read it and weep. Have a good day 🙂

edit: Yes I know...but it was too good a scan to pass up 😆

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Besides to end this silly argument:
http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hvsfffdcp0005ci2.jpg
Read it and weep. Have a good day 🙂

In all fairness, that's a non-enraged Hulk who lost his focus, completely different than WWH. Hulk has evolved a long way since then.

WWH still loses this match of course, just saying in regards to your last scan.

Btw, That's from the Hulk vs Fing Fang Foom one-shot that was released this year
http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=7805

No, its not WWH, but still. It applies 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Blair Wind
That's from the Hulk vs Fing Fang Foom one-shot that was released this year
http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?id=7805

Yes I have that issue at home. It's a story of classic Hulk retold. They even try to draw Hulk as he used to look, thick brow ridge and all.

Hulk has evolved physically and mentally a lot since then. It's like comparing Superman from DOS to Superman at OWAW - they might as well be separate heroes, for all the vast difference in their power levels and how they use it.

For example Hulk used to have to hold his breath underwater - no he no longer needs to, as his body grew the organs necessary to breath underwater. Same thing goes for space.

I still agree with the outcome loses every time in this battle, as there is literally no way for him to win, but I disagree with the way you are using the scans, that is all.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Yes I have that issue at home. It's a story of classic Hulk retold. They even try to draw Hulk as he used to look, thick brow ridge and all.

Hulk has evolved physically and mentally a lot since then. It's like comparing Superman from DOS to Superman at OWAW - they might as well be separate heroes, for all the vast difference in their power levels and how they use it.

For example Hulk used to have to hold his breath underwater - no he no longer needs to, as his body grew the organs necessary to breath underwater. Same thing goes for space.

I still agree with the outcome loses every time in this battle, as there is literally no way for him to win, but I disagree with the way you are using the scans, that is all.

Originally posted by Kutulu

Which makes about as much sense as being half-pregnant, if one knows what 'temperature' is.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Can you confirm or deny for me the thus far unsubstantiated claim that "Hulk is immune to temperature change at the subatomic level."

Which makes about as much sense as being half-pregnant, if one knows what 'temperature' is.

Hulk has resisted every attempt at freezing him. If it wasn't at a cellular level...for obvious reasons it should have killed him....Ice, cold and subzero temperatures have never taken out Hulk.

Ice does nothing more than temporarily slow down Hulk....and that's just regular Hulk.

I don't even see anything that could protect Iceman from being taken down by a halfway decent thunderclap.

Environmental cooling not killing the Hulk, in no way implies a resistance to Iceman's power to control molecular kinetic energy, or in the cases of solids and monoatomic fluids, atomic kinetic energy.

Cells are not subatomic particles. 😐

Iceman can reform from being exploded, as has already been posted in this thread, or atomized. 😐

You're a waste of time.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Environmental cooling not killing the Hulk, in no way implies a resistance to Iceman's power to control molecular kinetic energy, or in the cases of solids and monoatomic fluids, atomic kinetic energy.

Cells are not subatomic particles. 😐

lol I didn't say they were. 😮

Hulk is however said to show resistance at a sub-atomic level to his environment.