Then you are ignoring what people say because you like Dark Khan so much. Try to be objective. People have explained in great detail why he's unoriginal and a lazy design. Be honest, are you saying that you couldn't have came up w/an idea like Dark Khan in under a minute?
Originally posted by Bro SMASHThe thread starter asked for opinions. We are giving those about a character who sux. Relax.
In the end, this is what counts the most:
Originally posted by Bro SMASHHmmm. Those rules also say "no fanboy bickering". Be honest. Didn't that last statement sound like a perfect way to start fanboy bickering? MK has had extremely powerful characters for years. They've had GODS on the roster from day one. That's an extremely poor excuse for a reason people don't like D.Kahn. You can do better.
I think people are just mad because MK got an extremely powerful character.
Originally posted by I-Drop
Then you are ignoring what people say because you like Dark Khan so much. Try to be objective. People have explained in great detail why he's unoriginal and a lazy design. Be honest, are you saying that you couldn't have came up w/an idea like Dark Khan in under a minute?
The idea, yes. The design, no. And that can be said for many different designs.
Originally posted by I-Drop
The thread starter asked for opinions. We are giving those about a character who sux. Relax.
But you know the rules.
Originally posted by I-Drop
Hmmm. Those rules also say "no fanboy bickering". Be honest. Didn't that last statement sound like a perfect way to start fanboy bickering? MK has had extremely powerful characters for years. They've had GODS on the roster from day one. That's an extremely poor excuse for a reason people don't like D.Kahn. You can do better.
Actually, it's a good reason because there have been some who said that the MKverse is weak and that "gods are just a title". Now that it has a much more powerful character who makes the MKverse almost unbeatable, people wanna throw a hissy fit. And there's no fanboy bickering. I just don't get why out of every other character with a "lazy design", this one is the only one getting the most heat.
Originally posted by majid86
Dark Kahn deserves no respect what so ever, he is a big pile of shit.
Man, i feel sorry for the people who actually LIKE him (the RAGE must have affected them big time).Shao Kahn = Cool
Darkseid = Cool
Dark Kahn = TOTALLY LAME!
Darkseid = uber awesomeness
Shao Khan = a lamer version of General Zod (bow to me!), and a poor man's Onaga as far as MK bosses go
Dark Khan = gay incarnate
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
All I hear is "he's a lazy design", "he's unoriginal", but I never see a good explanation for why.
Originally posted by majid86
Dark Kahn deserves no respect what so ever, he is a big pile of shit.
Man, i feel sorry for the people who actually LIKE him (the RAGE must have affected them big time).Shao Kahn = Cool
Darkseid = Cool
Dark Kahn = TOTALLY LAME!
Please, Shao Kahn is nowhere near Darkseid's level of coolness/awesomeness; no-one from MK is for that matter, not even Onaga, unarguably the coolest villain in MK.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
All I hear is "he's a lazy design", "he's unoriginal", but I never see a good explanation for why.
Lazy Design - Nothing but Shao Kahn's face mask design on top of a body that highly resembles Blaze's body structure. Also, calling his main ability RAGE? That's really stupid.
Unoriginal - He's only original in the fact that there has never been a character like him before.
A fusion between two beings has been done long before. Also, there's the small matter of his name. Darkseid + Shao Kahn. Again, not original, and very lazy in fact.
It's akin to me meshing Kung Lao and Liu Kang together to create Kung Kang, or Liu Lao. 😐
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixLazy Design - Nothing but Shao Kahn's face mask design on top of a body that highly resembles Blaze's body structure. Also, calling his main ability RAGE? That's really stupid.
I do see a resemblance between him and Blaze but they're not THAT much a like. There's plenty of designs like that anyway. And...what's wrong with RAGE? It makes sense looking at how it effects people.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Unoriginal - He's only original in the fact that there has never been a character like him before.
Or look completely like him.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
A fusion between two beings has been done long before. Also, there's the small matter of his name. [b]Darkseid + Shao Kahn. Again, not original, and very lazy in fact.
It's akin to me meshing Kung Lao and Liu Kang together to create Kung Kang, or Liu Lao. 😐 [/B]
A lot of fused characters borrows parts of the characters' name they are fused with. What do you expect? Mr. Rage?
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
The way I see it,Darkseid = uber awesomeness
Shao Khan = a lamer version of General Zod (bow to me!), and a poor man's Onaga as far as MK bosses go
Dark Khan = gay incarnateWell, how is he not unoriginal, and what exactly is unique about his recycled design?
Oh come on! Now ya hating on Shao Kahn!
Well anyway, I think it has more to do with the fact that he doesn't look that much like Shao Kahn or Darkseid. You can easily distinguish him. Plus, his abilities aren't just mix ups of Shao Kahn and Darkseid. He actually has an ability unique to him (the RAGE).
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Please, Shao Kahn is nowhere near Darkseid's level of coolness/awesomeness; no-one from MK is for that matter, not even Onaga, unarguably the coolest villain in MK.
He also had no fatality. I blame Dark Khan.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
A lot of fused characters borrows parts of the characters' name they are fused with. What do you expect? Mr. Rage?
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
Oh come on! Now ya hating on Shao Kahn!Well anyway, I think it has more to do with the fact that he doesn't look that much like Shao Kahn or Darkseid. You can easily distinguish him. Plus, his abilities aren't just mix ups of Shao Kahn and Darkseid. He actually has an ability unique to him (the RAGE).
gay_rage
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
Actually, it's a good reason because there have been some who said that the MKverse is weak and that "gods are just a title". Now that it has a much more powerful character who makes the MKverse almost unbeatable, people wanna throw a hissy fit. And there's no fanboy bickering. I just don't get why out of every other character with a "lazy design", this one is the only one getting the most heat.
Not really.
MK already had the One Being, who is essentially God.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
I do see a resemblance between him and Blaze but they're not THAT much a like. There's plenty of designs like that anyway. And...what's wrong with RAGE? It makes sense looking at how it effects people.
Blaze's second design is remarkably like Dark Kahn's in fact. From the magma like flow of energy in their body, and the rock like body. Dark Kahn is pretty much a fusion between Darkseid & Blaze in terms of design, with a little bit of Shao Kahn thrown in. (face-mask)
If there are plenty of designs like that, it fails to qualify as original.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
Or look completely like him.
Yet he has numerous other factors that make him unoriginal and show signs of laziness on the part of the Creators. You say that he's original as no one else looks completely like him; I'll say that he's unoriginal as he makes people fight against each other.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
A lot of fused characters borrows parts of the characters' name they are fused with. What do you expect? Mr. Rage?
This makes it original how exactly?
Rather, it's just lazy. We're back to the hypothetical situation of me naming a Kung Lao + Liu Kang fusion either Kung Kang, or Liu Lao. Both names are retarded, and show laziness on my part.
Mr. Rage would in fact be better than Dark Kahn. Or even Emissary of RAGE. Granted, EoR is more of a title, but they're better than Dark Kahn.
What would you name a fusion between Onaga & Mongul? If we go by the creators' method, we'd get Onagul, or Monga.
Starting to see the stupidity and laziness of their naming method yet?
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Not really.MK already had the One Being, who is essentially God.
For the MK verse at least. He doesn't lord over other universes.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Agreed. I'd like to point out though that Darkseid himself was disappointingly horrible in MKvsDC; Almost as much as Dark Khan. Seid's voice in that game not only sounded terrible compared to in the animated series, but was nothing like it as well. At least the voices of Batman and Joker sounded remotely similar to Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill, although granted, Darkseid didn't have nearly as many lines as those two characters, since he spoke only a little at the beginning and end of the story.He also had no fatality. I blame Dark Khan.
Yeah, he was rather disappointing. And his voice was rather gay.
To date, I can only find a handful of voices that can reach the level of badassery & awesomeness that Michael Ironside's Darkseid had.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
haermm Even that would've been a better name than Dark Khan. Onslaught doesn't borrow any part of Xavier's or Magneto's names now does he?
Yeah, whoever named him is creative, when compared to the dudes that made Dark Kahn.
Also, me using that Liu Kang + Kung Lao (= Kung Kang/Liu Lao) fusion example to illustrate Dark Kahn's naming laziness, has made me realize that the names of those two monks are so bloody similar. >__>
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Never found Khan to be all that great. Even Tsung is more badass IMO, despite not being as apparently powerful.
Tsung looks even more badass in the sig I've made. 313
Also, I liked MK1 Tsung. Even MK2 Shao Kahn. They were rather badass when they first appeared, but subsequent appearances screwed that up.
The next badass villain was Onaga.
Originally posted by Bro SMASHGlad to see you finally admit he's a lazy design. &Nah, it's a very foolish reason. 1. People are against him because he sucks. 2. He doesn't make the MKverse unbeatable because a)He's deader than fried chicken IIRC & b) he doesn't and never has existed in the canon MKverse. He's just a poorly made character created for a poorly made game. Now you're just using a poor excuse to explain why people dislike him. As I said, you can do better.
Actually, it's a good reason because there have been some who said that the MKverse is weak and that "gods are just a title". Now that it has a much more powerful character who makes the MKverse almost unbeatable, people wanna throw a hissy fit. And there's no fanboy bickering. I just don't get why out of every other character with a "lazy design", this one is the only one getting the most heat.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenixhysterical I might have to use one of those next time I change my username
A fusion between two beings has been done long before. Also, there's the small matter of his name. [b]Darkseid + Shao Kahn. Again, not original, and very lazy in fact.
It's akin to me meshing Kung Lao and Liu Kang together to create Kung Kang, or Liu Lao. 😐 [/B]
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix😆
What would you name a fusion between Onaga & Mongul? If we go by the creators' method, we'd get [b]Onagul, or Monga.
Starting to see the stupidity and laziness of their naming method yet? [/B]
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yeah, he was rather disappointing. And his voice was rather gay.
To date, I can only find a handful of voices that can reach the level of badassery & awesomeness that Michael Ironside's Darkseid had.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yeah, whoever named him is creative, when compared to the dudes that made Dark Kahn.Also, me using that Liu Kang + Kung Lao (= Kung Kang/Liu Lao) fusion example to illustrate Dark Kahn's naming laziness, has made me realize that the names of those two monks are so bloody similar. >__>
lol Yeah. I guess it's no coincidence.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Tsung looks even more badass in the sig I've made. 313Also, I liked MK1 Tsung. Even MK2 Shao Kahn. They were rather badass when they first appeared, but subsequent appearances screwed that up.
The next badass villain was Onaga.
Yeah. Khan was all right in MK2 and MK3, but after that was when he started going downhill for me, and then came Onaga, the original true ruler of Outworld.
Originally posted by I-Drop
Glad to see you finally admit he's a lazy design. &Nah, it's a very foolish reason. 1. People are against him because he sucks. 2. He doesn't make the MKverse unbeatable because a)He's deader than fried chicken IIRC & b) he doesn't and never has existed in the canon MKverse. He's just a poorly made character created for a poorly made game. Now you're just using a poor excuse to explain why people dislike him. As I said, you can do better. hysterical I might have to use one of those next time I change my username 😆
I put said "lazy design" with a parenthesis so that's not exactly what I think. And really, even if he didn't exist in MK canon, he's still part of MK. Also, all I'm hearing from you is that he's a poorly made character. That's pretty much it. I don't consider that a good enough reason.