COIE Anti-Monitor vs. this Team

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Dark phoenix has never canonically destroyed a universe to my knowledge,being stronger then a weak galactus is not really a big feat either,it took a amped spectre who then went into a coma after the battle just to drive the AM off,he was amped by over a dozen precrisis magicians including a 5d imp...so no that team is nowhere near that spectre or the AM in this thread,and galactus potential really doesn't matter since hes never at that level.

Straight from the Watcher's mouth:

"A primal force second only to the Creator."

As for destroying universes, well, that's part of her job:

"The Phoenix is both the spark that ignites creation and the final fire that consumes it."

And about Galactus - both Phoenix and Onslaught have access to all psionic energy and are the premier telepaths. They can easily replicate what Tiamut did to Galactus via mind tampering to put him at the omniversal destroying level.

Omniversal eating level which he would still die before getting close to eating it.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Omniversal eating level which he would still die before getting close to eating it.

Why? Anti-matter wave?

Multiversal+power dropped on his dome piece would be the reason.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Multiversal+power dropped on his dome piece would be the reason.

Galactus' Omniversal power > AM's Multiversal power.

Plus teamates.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Hell, Blackbolt and Odin can produce anti-matter blasts. Anti-matter didn't affect Celestials. Why would it affect beings like Galactus, Tyrant, etc?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Galactus is capable not only of eating universes, but of eating the omniverse.

Originally posted by Enyalus
DP was said to possess power to rival Galactus and her strength was increasing - not to mention that she's capable of destroying universes

Originally posted by Enyalus
Galactus' Omniversal power > AM's Multiversal power.

Plus teamates.

You're shitting me, right? Galactus does NOT have Omniversal power. 😐

Originally posted by Enyalus
Galactus' Omniversal power > AM's Multiversal power.

Plus teamates.

Originally posted by Galan007
Because if Marvel's anti-matter didn't affect them, DC's wouldn't either, right? srsly

Anti-matter is anti-matter...

Originally posted by Galan007
Provide evidence of Galactus devouring even a single universe without Celestial enhancement.

He hasn't. I'm not saying he can do it on his own. I explicitly said DP and Onslaught are more than capable of getting his mind into that state.

Originally posted by Galan007
The only time DP actually destroyed a universe on panel, was in a What If. Are we using What If's as 100% canonical now?

What did I just post, man? It is her job to destroy it and recreate it with a Big Bang. That's what she does.

Originally posted by batdude123
You're shitting me, right? Galactus does NOT have Omniversal power. 😐

Again, not on his own. Did you read what I wrote prior to that last comment of mine?

Originally posted by vlaaad
he cannot instantly eat the omniverse not can he destroy an omniverse with an energy blast or anything and he has never shown anything close to multiversal+durability

Neither can AM. So I don't see how that's relevant.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Anti-matter is anti-matter...

Originally posted by Enyalus
He hasn't. I'm not saying he can do it on his own. I explicitly said DP and Onslaught are more than capable of getting his mind into that state.

Originally posted by Enyalus
What did I just post, man? It is her job to destroy it and recreate it with a Big Bang. That's what she does.

Even if we take the speachification literally, destroying a universe simply isn't a tactic she would use in a battle.

Originally posted by Galan007
So nothing ever varies from company to company? Gotcha.

Things like Entropy vary from Marvel to DC because they are clearly depicted different. Far as has been shown, anti-matter is anti-matter. Prime survived it.

Originally posted by Galan007
We have no clue if they can affect his mind, so that's a moot argument imo.

Not really. They're on the same team. It isn't like they're fighting him in order to do it.

Originally posted by Galan007
Okay, so When has she actually done it on panel? She hasn't.

I never said she had.

Originally posted by Galan007
Even if we take the speachification literally, destroying a universe simply isn't a tactic she would use in a battle.

Of course not. Would AM? I'd think that'd be a BFR of some sort, wouldn't it? I'm just attempting to shed light on her power. You've got universe busters in this lineup, and one capable of eating the entire omniverse. AM isn't going to walk over these guys.

Originally posted by Enyalus

Neither can AM. So I don't see how that's relevant. [/B]

Originally posted by batdude123

Originally posted by Enyalus
Straight from the Watcher's mouth:

"A primal force second only to the Creator."

Regarding this fight anti-monitor wins. If a pre-crisis universe could not stop him , if an amped spectre could not.

I don't see this team doing anything.

The only minor hope would be the UN even then than it's a iffy subject.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Far as has been shown, anti-matter is anti-matter. Prime survived it.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Not really. They're on the same team. It isn't like they're fighting him in order to do it.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I never said she had.

Originally posted by Galan007
Prime also punched a Multiverse back into existence.. What's your point?

Who is exaggerating now?

Originally posted by Galan007
That's a sketchy line of thinking. We simply can't be sure either way.

Why? Because it hurts your argument?

Originally posted by Galan007
Which is my point. Phoenix does not go around busting universes - never has. She would not do it here.

You missed my point on this one. AM wouldn't run around busting universes in order to defeat this team, either. That wasn't what I meant. She's got that level of power. That was my intention. AM isn't up against PC Supes. He's up against people who've rocked multiverses, who have the potential to destroy the omniverse, and people who can kill universes.

And again amped spectre could only drive am off not beat him,amped spectre>this team,galactus potentiol doesn't matter since he won't be eating anything in this fight,universe destroyers don't mean anything to the AM and everyone else on that team is useless,and you still can't prove that dark phoenix or onslaught have the power to do to galactus what the celestial did,AM stomps end of story,hell damn near everyone on that team would have their powers instantly absorbed to boost the Am.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Who is exaggerating now?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Why? Because it hurts your argument?

If you have proof to the contrary, please provide it. 🙂

Originally posted by Enyalus
He's up against people who've rocked multiverses, who have the potential to destroy the omniverse, and people who can kill universes.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
And again amped spectre could only drive am off not beat him,amped spectre>this team

You wanna prove that, instead of blatantly dismissing everything else?

He's got what, two feats? Merging the remaining multiverse into Earth-1 and not putting down AM.

I'm impressed.

Again about a dozen precrisis magicians,a 5d genie(you know the guys who have more power then 5d imps you know those guys who snap universes out of existence)+god backing if you can't see why a spectre acting in favor of the entire multiverse+magic amping so much that he went into a coma from channeling that much power is above freaking normal level galactus and dark phoenix you have problems,and again pretty much everyone on that team is a snack for the am in a weakened state he absorbed several dozens precrisis peoples powers(including several kryptonians)in an instant at his I stalemate an amped spectre level of power he will siphon their energies with no trouble.