all he did was dodge him and then get that one awesome hit in, one that didn't even floor or hurt wildcat. how could he have had the edge?
btw, batman has been beaten by shiva, and KK. and sensi kicked the living crap out of him in that fight.
catman stalemating bruce doesn't give him an edge over wildcat.grant has done it too, and it's certainly not his highest end feat.grant is stated as peak,while catman is stated olympic level.there's nothing else to lead me to believe that CM's stats are above grants. i know grant takes the strength/durability category, and experience, and skill. catman developed skill living out in the jungle, his own freestyle sort of fighting i would presume. that's not even formal training. grant is barnone the best boxer in the DCU and has master several froms of martial arts.
Originally posted by namorsubby
all he did was dodge him and then get that one awesome hit in, one that didn't even floor or hurt wildcat. how could he have had the edge?btw, batman has been beaten by shiva, and KK. and sensi kicked the living crap out of him in that fight.
catman stalemating bruce doesn't give him an edge over wildcat.grant has done it too, and it's certainly not his highest end feat.grant is stated as peak,while catman is stated olympic level.there's nothing else to lead me to believe that CM's stats are above grants. i know grant takes the strength/durability category, and experience, and skill. catman developed skill living out in the jungle, his own freestyle sort of fighting i would presume. that's not even formal training. grant is barnone the best boxer in the DCU and has master several froms of martial arts.
Wildcat didn't do much damage or enough to do take him down. Bruce has a stronger will, even more so. he indured Sensei's attacks and eventually took him down.
Mastering most or all MA's doesn't always equate superior. Catman is unpredictable, as shown in some of Batman's fights.
As for Lady Shiva, didn't bruce take her down in Superman/Batman?
shiva was under mind control in that issue. and shiva has beaten him as well.
batman on average is simple beyondcatman either way.he's sueperior. and that was just one feat meant to re-establish CM after his disgraceful past. we need more than that to determine just how formiddable he is now.
WC did more than bats did in that fight.and WC almost certainly has the stronger will. he's not as skilled or as smart as bats, he has to have that
uncanny tenacity/stubborness on his side(along with that awesome damage soak) to fair so well.
btw, sensei simple kicked is tail. bats got lucky. imagine if their was no lazarus pit there at all. sensei would straight up mudered him, literally. no question there.
Originally posted by namorsubby
shiva was under mind control in that issue. and shiva has beaten him as well.batman on average is simple beyondcatman either way.he's sueperior. and that was just one feat meant to re-establish CM after his disgraceful past. we need more than that to determine just how formiddable he is now.
WC did more than bats did in that fight.and WC almost certainly has the stronger will. he's not as skilled or as smart as bats, he has to have that
uncanny tenacity/stubborness on his side(along with that awesome damage soak) to fair so well.btw, sensei simple kicked is tail. bats got lucky. imagine if their was no lazarus pit there at all. sensei would straight up mudered him, literally. no question there.
I'll try and find the Catman respect thread.
Here ya go. Looks like he had a couple of decent showings for Catman. I'm glad she's giving him his due.