Superman/Orion vs Thor/Silver surfer

Started by The Great Galen3 pages

Originally posted by Raoul
superman could take thor, but orion isn't beating surfer, he doesn't fight nearly smartly enough to outwit norrin imo...

if norrin fights any way intelligently, team 2 should win... if he tries to duke it out, he'll be destroyed, imo...

I think ur cutting Orion off way to short, in fact supes wopuld have a easiar time disposing of Thor then SS would orion. I call it 5/5 depending on the macthes.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
I think ur cutting Orion off way to short, in fact supes wopuld have a easiar time disposing of Thor then SS would orion. I call it 5/5 depending on the macthes.

i'm not cutting orion short at all, but he's just too hot headed to beat norrin by outsmarting him... if he got within arm's reach, then, maybe...

Team two 7-8/10.

slight edge to team 2

Originally posted by Raoul
i'm not cutting orion short at all, but he's just too hot headed to beat norrin by outsmarting him... if he got within arm's reach, then, maybe...

Norrin's frequent battle tenencies are to go within arm's reach of his opponent heh. A astrol wielding Orion would do well agaisnt SS if not even a couple wins, so no i dont think this a stomp considering Thor is the weakest link.

Silver Surfer, the guy with Power Cosmic and Cosmic Awarness against a team of two, where Sups is in?

Surfer would hold is own against these two, because of his powerset and the fact that he is a plot device by himself against Sups, let alone if THOR enter the fight.

Team 2 smack they're face 10/10

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Norrin's frequent battle tenencies are to go within arm's reach of his opponent heh. A astrol wielding Orion would do well agaisnt SS if not even a couple wins, so no i dont think this a stomp considering Thor is the weakest link.

CIS OFF
Bloodlust ON

Norrin would blast the shit out of Orion.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Norrin's frequent battle tenencies are to go within arm's reach of his opponent heh. A astrol wielding Orion would do well agaisnt SS if not even a couple wins, so no i dont think this a stomp considering Thor is the weakest link.

this is the forum though... superman isn't standing there allowing himself to be hit, thor is using his various powers that don't involve aiming the hammer at someone's face and swinging, and norrin isn't getting involved in fisticuffs...

if he was, then maybe...

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Silver Surfer, the guy with Power Cosmic and Cosmic Awarness against a team of two, where Sups is in?

Surfer would hold is own against these two, because of his powerset and the fact that he is a plot device by himself against Sups, let alone if THOR enter the fight.

Team 2 smack they're face 10/10

So you honestly think SS could sole Orion and supes by himself...based on what exactly. One armbar is all orion and supes need and considering SS level of speed he usually displays in battle...I don't see him beating both of these guys by himself.

Originally posted by Raoul
this is the forum though... superman isn't standing there allowing himself to be hit, thor is using his various powers that don't involve aiming the hammer at someone's face and swinging, and norrin isn't getting involved in fisticuffs...

if he was, then maybe...

Right, so with forum rules Supes blitz KO's Thor and Orion tries to engage SS at close range while fending off SS ranged attacks.

Originally posted by Raoul
i'm not cutting orion short at all, but he's just too hot headed to beat norrin by outsmarting him... if he got within arm's reach, then, maybe...
Depends on who's writing Orion. Byrne's Orion was a calculating warrior.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Right, so with forum rules Supes blitz KO's Thor and Orion tries to engage SS at close range while fending off SS ranged attacks.

pretty much, if thor faced superman (though its not going to be exactly quick) and orin faced norrin...

Originally posted by fangirl101
Depends on who's writing Orion. Byrne's Orion was a calculating warrior.

those were the days eh?

Re: Superman/Orion vs Thor/Silver surfer

Originally posted by Nihilist
Orion has the astro force
Why would he NOT have the Astro-Force?
You realise it's as much a part of his character, as the Power Cosmic is for Surfer?
Just like his Harness, is as much a part of him as Surfer's board is to him?

Originally posted by Raoul
pretty much, if thor faced superman (though its not going to be exactly quick) and orin faced norrin...

those were the days eh?


Orion is pretty much the Hulk with Blast These days. the days of cosmic storms, Super speed battles, and manipulating energy to amp punches is gone until Grant brings him back.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Orion is pretty much the Hulk with Blast These days. the days of cosmic storms, Super speed battles, and manipulating energy to amp punches is gone until Grant brings him back.

yeah... 🙁

People remember there are two match here.
SS vs Superman
Orion vs Thor

Or
Thor Vs Superman
SS Vs Orion

Either way team 2 wins, but in match up 2, they have a higher chance(3/10)(4/10). In Match Up one, SS can expliot Superman's weakness.

Any ways if SS is not allowed to exploit Superman weakness which is Kryptonite, and Red Sun Light

Originally posted by Juntai
Why would he NOT have the Astro-Force?
You realise it's as much a part of his character, as the Power Cosmic is for Surfer?
Just like his Harness, is as much a part of him as Surfer's board is to him?
the only reason i stated it is because it usually gets asked.

Originally posted by Raoul
pretty much, if thor faced superman (though its not going to be exactly quick) and orin faced norrin...

those were the days eh?

With no weakness to exploit, how is Orion a easy win for SS. Orion has delt with insane lightray and handled better agaisnt a FP DS then supes ever has...and to top it off he has solo'ed the deep six and a group of insane new gods that has a member who gave supes some difficulty. Astrol wielding Orion is not a slouch that SS will walk over, the same cannot be said about Thor agaisnt supes whom supes would blitz KO fairly early on in the fight.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
With no weakness to exploit, how is Orion a easy win for SS. Orion has delt with insane lightray and handled better agaisnt a FP DS then supes ever has...and to top it off he has solo'ed the deep six and a group of insane new gods that has a member who gave supes some difficulty. Astrol wielding Orion is not a slouch that SS will walk over, the same cannot be said about Thor agaisnt supes whom supes would blitz KO fairly early on in the fight.

you're underselling thor, imo. it's not going to be exactly easy for superman, given the type of stuff thor can bring to the field.

and i never said it would be easy for norrin, either...

Originally posted by kevdude
Team 2, shoulda given Orion someone like Sodam Yat 😉
That wouldnt change anything.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Versatility is overatted, and supes already has a confident victory over Thor and orion could easily hold his own agaisnt SS.
He barely won. He also won imo due to Thor's astonishment at supes stopping his hammer.