Originally posted by snoopdogg
There was no evidence to suggest that the story didn't happen son. Even at leaderslair they gave Rhino the win.
I'd take it with a grain a of salt.
Originally posted by Rhinoceros
Depowered Juggernaut did fare pretty well against Sasquatch.....
Depowered Juggernaut was never on a stable power level, he was like a balloon with a slow leak, and continued to lose power.
At the time when WWHulk slaughtered him he was running at about Mr. Hydes power level maybe even lower. As proof for my estimation, I am taking his beating at the hands of the Wrecking Crew as proof... it's really the only solid evidence to prove how strong he was at the moment that WWHulk kicked the shyt out of him.
All the same he (Cain) wouldn't be strong enough to beat Joe Fixit who was able to defeat a true class 100 when he put the hurt on the Absorbing Man, and the Super Skrull.
Fixit would win this no matter what.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Well, I think the editors at Marvel consider the events to have occured in Rhino's history to be cannon.
Do you have any scans on Rhino beating Joe Fixit? It would be the first time because the Gray/Green Hulk in classic days beat the Rhino every time they faced off... it was more difficult than it is today, but it happened all the same.
I'd love to check out some scans on their fight though... not to prove anything just out of pure curiosity.
Originally posted by Stoic
Depowered Juggernaut was never on a stable power level, he was like a balloon with a slow leak, and continued to lose power.At the time when WWHulk slaughtered him he was running at about Mr. Hydes power level maybe even lower. As proof for my estimation, I am taking his beating at the hands of the Wrecking Crew as proof... it's really the only solid evidence to prove how strong he was at the moment that WWHulk kicked the shyt out of him.
All the same he (Cain) wouldn't be strong enough to beat Joe Fixit who was able to defeat a true class 100 when he put the hurt on the Absorbing Man, and the Super Skrull.
Fixit would win this no matter what.
Mr.Hyde is like a class 40 or 60 and that statement is purely speculation.
WWH would've killed him..
Originally posted by Stoic
At the time when WWHulk slaughtered him he was running at about Mr. Hydes power level maybe even lower. As proof for my estimation, I am taking his beating at the hands of the Wrecking Crew as proof... it's really the only solid evidence to prove how strong he was at the moment that WWHulk kicked the shyt out of him.
Based on? Oh and the Wrecking Crew have one-shooted Savage Hulk before. He's not exactally Hyde level now is he?
Originally posted by -K-M-
Based on? Oh and the Wrecking Crew have one-shooted Savage Hulk before. He's not exactally Hyde level now is he?
Based on The Absorbing Man who has always been classified as being stronger than than any one individual in the Wrecking Crew. Based on the fact that every incarnation of the Hulk has always been able to increase in strength. Hyde isn't exactly a pencil neck, and as Snoop pointed out the Wrecker at full power was classified as being in the 40 ton range and when power sharing the rest of the Crew was in the 10 ton range. Hyde was classified as being a class 50.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Mr.Hyde is like a class 40 or 60 and that statement is purely speculation.WWH would've killed him..
Juggernaut continued to lose more and more power as time went on, I believe it was stated that he was in Excalibur, and so he chose to go on a quest to regain his power so that he wouldn't lose more.
Are you saying that the depowered Juggernaut that could not heal from getting injured, couldn't lift anywhere near what Colossus can, could beat Joe Fixit when he can increase in strength, durability, and heal himself?
Originally posted by Stoic
Based on The Absorbing Man who has always been classified as being stronger than than any one individual in the Wrecking Crew. Based on the fact that every incarnation of the Hulk has always been able to increase in strength. Hyde isn't exactly a pencil neck, and as Snoop pointed out the Wrecker at full power was classified as being in the 40 ton range and when power sharing the rest of the Crew was in the 10 ton range. Hyde was classified as being a class 50.
Absorbing Man varies depending on the substance he assimilates, bad comparssion. That's nice, and different versions of the Crew were stronger or weaker as well. You do know even the Wrecker has strength feats that put him over class 40 right? Are you familar with their feats?
If were going by handbooks, which you seem to be even depowered Juggernaut was still said to be class 100, not Mr.Hyde level
Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's called denial. Juggy was too pridefull at first to admitt he's weaker. And by the look on his face he wasn't gonna make the lift.
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It's not like he was completely struggling. He was still holding the weight when he asked them to crank it up.
I don't know why that's hard for you to grasp.