Electronic Games and guys

Originally posted by inimalist
male to male competition that requires nobody to be hurt or friendships to be broken

a civilized form of beating our chest and locking horns with eachother

I dunno about that..

coicidentaly enough, earlier this evening my first cousins, both brothers', got into a literal fist fight in my living room over madden '08 (36o). it was the classic "you suck i'm, i'm destroying you", "what happened the last game?", "you're a bum", "i'm a madden god" back and forth rant that escalated over three quarters with me telling them in one manner or another to just chill the fcuk out that it's just a game. next thing you know one of them said something slick, the other got up and told him to repeat it. he did, he pushed his face and they went at eachother full force with me diving in the middle to stop it. my closet door was ran into (now it closes funny) and I got hit in the eye with an elbow while trying to break them up while pushing them away from my flat screen and home theatre system.

just basically 2 men acting like kids. about a half hr ago I called david, the younger one, to see if he was alright and he told yea but that he honestly wished he didn't have a brother. they're 19 and 22.

so video game comp isn't always peachy.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
Why do they, i.e. guys, like them? 😕 😑

I think the question should be why guys over a certain age play still play them. I stopped when I was a teenager, its something I grew out of.

Originally posted by BackFire
Why does one watch films? Why does one read a novel? For escape, gaming is no different. Gaming can have the same artistic and intellectual merits of any novel or film, and anyone who says different simply hasn't played enough video games to have a worth while opinion on the subject.

And the presentation that it's only guys who like it is very wrong. More and more females are getting into games these days, it's a new medium that is growing at an incredible rate, already rivaling film in revenue. As it grows its scope and attraction will grow with it and more diverse people will engage themselves in the format of gaming.

I think there's a difference between an adult reading Uncle Tom's Cabin and a bunch of kids "owning" each other in some shoot'em-up video game.

Unlike movies and novels, and like comicbooks and Star Trek, video games are a big-time girl repellent.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I think the question should be why guys over a certain age play still play them. I stopped when I was a teenager, its something I grew out of.

I think there's a difference between an adult reading Uncle Tom's Cabin and a bunch of kids "owning" each other in some shoot'em-up video game.

Unlike movies and novels, and like comicbooks and Star Trek, video games are a big-time girl repellent.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota

Unlike movies and novels, and like comicbooks and Star Trek, video games are a big-time girl repellent.

That's not really as true anymore. I believe that, just like comics, video games just have to face a rather close minded approach to them atm, as many of the older generations still can't get their head around to see them as having merit on their own, especially for Comic Books, which, to any thinking human being that did more than 3 minutes of research, is obviously a valid art for in itself, while, admittedly video games are generally aimed more at relaxing and spending your free time. But really, kinda like every other medium that might just be the early phases of art form. We certainly see that video games have brought vast improvements to certain areas, and will likely continue to do so.

And really, wasn't when you stopped being a teenager the time that Pong was considered the must have high end game? How can you judge video games on a fair basis?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I think the question should be why guys over a certain age play still play them. I stopped when I was a teenager, its something I grew out of.

I think there's a difference between an adult reading Uncle Tom's Cabin and a bunch of kids "owning" each other in some shoot'em-up video game.

Unlike movies and novels, and like comicbooks and Star Trek, video games are a big-time girl repellent.

Originally posted by dadudemon
While you play video games a loooooonnng time, I'll keep your wife occupied a loooooonng time. Your kids can **** themselves because I like women. 😐

Oh.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I think the question should be why guys over a certain age play still play them. I stopped when I was a teenager, its something I grew out of.

Games are not like they used to be. Some games are made specifically for adults. They are no longer something you grow out of.

Now, you can feel that you are above games, and that's fine. But it has nothing to do with age or maturity due to age.

Some games cost just as much as some movies to make and they are much more immersive than any movie. Some video game story lines are every bit as good as the movies Hollywood churns out.

I'm going to have to say that one of my favorite multimedia stories was Knight of the Old Republic. (The first one.) Amazing story.

Some games make more money, singularly, than any movie in history. This is done quite often nowadays.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I think there's a difference between an adult reading Uncle Tom's Cabin and a bunch of kids "owning" each other in some shoot'em-up video game.

There's also a difference between a child an adult reading the same book, just as there's a difference between an adult and a child playing the same video game. Your point is also lost on the millions of rabid sports fans who fight their petty fights of lameness.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Unlike movies and novels, and like comicbooks and Star Trek, video games are a big-time girl repellent.

I've noticed a steady trend of more and more female gamers. In fact, there are so many female gamers now that the "male dominant" argument is becoming weak. For exampe, my wife, one who never played video games because she thought they were lame, is now playing video games quite often. I don't remember the exact number, but I think females make up around 40% of the market now.

In South Korea, there are game-thletes that garner the attention of thousands to millions of young women. They are celebrities. These super star gamers have fingers faster than Jimmy Hendrix.

Jimi

Only guys play games?

Well, shit. Guess I should quit my job, get rid of my collection of 20 years worth of video games, and resign my job modding here.

Or not ermm Seriously, these days a rather large chunk of people who play games are female. Still not a majority, and when you translate that into number of girls who play games, it's not a huge number (something like half of all people play video games, and about 40% of gamers are female), but still. Female gamers are not a rare special thing. It's just that it's only in the past couple of years that games have actually been marketed towards women.

I also don't understand this mindset of "you're over a certain age, why do you still play games?". It's ridiculous. You wouldn't tell someone to stop reading books or watching movies over a certain age, would you? This idea that games are for children is a myth and always has been. The core demographic for video games is males in their 20s and 30s. And even if it wasn't, that doesn't mean that once you hit a certain age you should put away your hobbies that you enjoy.

And let's all grow up and get past the whole "girls don't like geeky things" idea, okay? It's patently not true. Some girls are shallow and like that, but hey, guess what, so are some guys.

The video game industry makes more than the movie industry, by the way, and made something like $20 billion last year. So yeah.

Originally posted by Peach
Only guys play games?

Well, shit. Guess I should quit my job, get rid of my collection of 20 years worth of video games, and resign my job modding here.

Or not ermm Seriously, these days a rather large chunk of people who play games are female. Still not a majority, and when you translate that into number of girls who play games, it's not a huge number (something like half of all people play video games, and about 40% of gamers are female), but still. Female gamers are not a rare special thing. It's just that it's only in the past couple of years that games have actually been marketed towards women.

I also don't understand this mindset of "you're over a certain age, why do you still play games?". It's ridiculous. You wouldn't tell someone to stop reading books or watching movies over a certain age, would you? This idea that games are for children is a myth and always has been. The core demographic for video games is males in their 20s and 30s. And even if it wasn't, that doesn't mean that once you hit a certain age you should put away your hobbies that you enjoy.

And let's all grow up and get past the whole "girls don't like geeky things" idea, okay? It's patently not true. Some girls are shallow and like that, but hey, guess what, so are some guys.

The video game industry makes more than the movie industry, by the way, and made something like $20 billion last year. So yeah.

Quiet, girl. It is men talking about men's stuff. Go play with dollies.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Quiet, girl. It is men talking about men's stuff. Go play with dollies.

You know, I would laugh so hard if you tried saying that to me in the SW game 😛

Originally posted by Peach
You know, I would laugh so hard if you tried saying that to me in the SW game 😛

Don't think Con would have much to laugh...

Originally posted by Peach
Only guys play games?

Well, shit. Guess I should quit my job, get rid of my collection of 20 years worth of video games, and resign my job modding here.

Or not ermm Seriously, these days a rather large chunk of people who play games are female. Still not a majority, and when you translate that into number of girls who play games, it's not a huge number (something like half of all people play video games, and about 40% of gamers are female), but still. Female gamers are not a rare special thing. It's just that it's only in the past couple of years that games have actually been marketed towards women.

I also don't understand this mindset of "you're over a certain age, why do you still play games?". It's ridiculous. You wouldn't tell someone to stop reading books or watching movies over a certain age, would you? This idea that games are for children is a myth and always has been. The core demographic for video games is males in their 20s and 30s. And even if it wasn't, that doesn't mean that once you hit a certain age you should put away your hobbies that you enjoy.

And let's all grow up and get past the whole "girls don't like geeky things" idea, okay? It's patently not true. Some girls are shallow and like that, but hey, guess what, so are some guys.

The video game industry makes more than the movie industry, by the way, and made something like $20 billion last year. So yeah.

The words mean so much more when they come from a female. (Who could kick my ass at just about any video game, no less.)

Originally posted by Bardock42
In character? 😛

Don't think Con would have much to laugh...

Out of character or in would be funny 😛 OOC would be "Shut up, I've been in this game forever", IC would be "hahahahahaha no" and then Rianna would dismember you 😄

Originally posted by dadudemon
The words mean so much more when they come from a female. (Who could kick my ass at just about any video game, no less.)

Actually, I probably couldn't! I enjoy games but I'm not very good at most 'competitive' ones. I don't play sports games at all and rarely play shooters, only when a really good one jumps out at me. They bore me for the most part 😛

Originally posted by Peach
I don't play sports games at all and rarely play shooters, only when a really good one jumps out at me. They bore me for the most part 😛

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I think the question should be why guys over a certain age play still play them. I stopped when I was a teenager, its something I grew out of.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I guess, personally I play Single Player or Co-op.

But I guess you could say it's that you'd like to win or at least do good in some way.

absolutly, I wasn't making my point very well

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I dunno about that..

coicidentaly enough, earlier this evening my first cousins, both brothers', got into a literal fist fight in my living room over madden '08 (36o). it was the classic "you suck i'm, i'm destroying you", "what happened the last game?", "you're a bum", "i'm a madden god" back and forth rant that escalated over three quarters with me telling them in one manner or another to just chill the fcuk out that it's just a game. next thing you know one of them said something slick, the other got up and told him to repeat it. he did, he pushed his face and they went at eachother full force with me diving in the middle to stop it. my closet door was ran into (now it closes funny) and I got hit in the eye with an elbow while trying to break them up while pushing them away from my flat screen and home theatre system.

just basically 2 men acting like kids. about a half hr ago I called david, the younger one, to see if he was alright and he told yea but that he honestly wished he didn't have a brother. they're 19 and 22.

so video game comp isn't always peachy.

lol!

no, that stuff happens as well 🙂

I remember when I used to live with my buddy, and we had our X boxes networked, and just getting so furious sometimes that I would run down stairs mad yelling at him.

Ah, the good old days.

I was talking more about natural male competition and social hirearchies, but even then, I didn't make the point very well. Funny story though 🙂 sucks about the closet

Originally posted by Peach
Actually, I probably couldn't! I enjoy games but I'm not very good at most 'competitive' ones. I don't play sports games at all and rarely play shooters, only when a really good one jumps out at me. They bore me for the most part 😛

I agree with your point about girl gamers, however, as you point out here, there are huge demographic differences in the types and play habits of men and women.

Not that there aren't girls who like shooters, and not that I'm saying anything about girls in general.

Violence and direct competition are, afaik, still much more appealing to male gamers.

Did someone really say that gaming is more of a girl repellent than Star Trek and comic books?

Electronic guys? 😐 Oh, wait...

Originally posted by Deja~vu
Why do they, i.e. guys, like them? 😕 😑