What's DS's most impressive strength feat?
I believe that Juggernaut's might does grow when he needs it to grow. He stated this during the match with the demon D'Spayre. "Cause life is pain. Pain leads to despair. An' the only way to beat despair is through rage. And rage feeds The Juggernaut. Once The Juggernaut feels rage...nothing...of this or any world... NOTHING CAN STOP THE JUGGERNAUT!" *shrug*
Originally posted by Allankles
🙁 Current DS would have Cytorrak pissing his pants. Juggs stands no chance.
Until Darkseid is confirmed to be on the level of a Celestial, threads such as this one should be closed or not made at all.
You can't go from being a challenge to even getting walked on by Superman, which makes it possible for someone like Cain to beat you, to being able to take on Galactus. If I was a Mod this thread would be closed right now.
No Offense to anyone.
Anyone that fights on the ground, and is able to be beaten by SUperman would be a decent fight for the Juggernaut... and that Access crap isn't canonical.
Oh and Cyttorak could easily be on Galactus' level or greater than him... his Herald or Avatar after all would be able to take anything that Galactus' Heralds could dish out.
Originally posted by Stoic
Until Darkseid is confirmed to be on the level of a Celestial, threads such as this one should be closed or not made at all.You can't go from being a challenge to even getting walked on by Superman, which makes it possible for someone like Cain to beat you, to being able to take on Galactus. If I was a Mod this thread would be closed right now.
No Offense to anyone.
Anyone that fights on the ground, and is able to be beaten by SUperman would be a decent fight for the Juggernaut... and that Access crap isn't canonical.
Oh and Cyttorak could easily be on Galactus' level or greater than him... his Herald or Avatar after all would be able to take anything that Galactus' Heralds could dish out.
Originally posted by Stoic
Until Darkseid is confirmed to be on the level of a Celestial, threads such as this one should be closed or not made at all.You can't go from being a challenge to even getting walked on by Superman, which makes it possible for someone like Cain to beat you, to being able to take on Galactus. If I was a Mod this thread would be closed right now.
No Offense to anyone.
Anyone that fights on the ground, and is able to be beaten by SUperman would be a decent fight for the Juggernaut... and that Access crap isn't canonical.
Oh and Cyttorak could easily be on Galactus' level or greater than him... his Herald or Avatar after all would be able to take anything that Galactus' Heralds could dish out.
Everything you said is wrong
Originally posted by xJLxKing
That's as insult to the eyes, ears, and every organism in this entire universe!!! You are OUT OF HERE.Everything you said is wrong
What are you talking about? Mind explaining, because I understood Vlaaad12345's point perfectly, and couldn't agree more if what he says is true.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Except the true ds has never been walked on by superman all his loses essentialy got retconed in fc 5,superman has never fought the real new gods...only the idea of them
When I read that, I thought it was a clear example of hyperbole. I don't think he was actually suggesting what you are claiming.
Most of his losses were already retconned as being avatars. Until otherwise proven, his losses against Supes in AN and S/B 13 are valid.
Originally posted by Enyalus
When I read that, I thought it was a clear example of hyperbole. I don't think he was actually suggesting what you are claiming.Most of his losses were already retconned as being avatars. Until otherwise proven, his losses against Supes in AN and S/B 13 are valid.
I thought so, but I'm not an expert on the New Gods... so if what you say is true Darkseid could lose a battle against Juggernaut.
I don't see how Superman would ever be able to put him down outside of throwing him into space, which is a win, but if they were trapped and had to fight it out... well I think Superman would lose, due to Cains durability, I see the same thing happening to Darkseid if they slugged it out.
This is how I feel of course, if what you say about Darkseid is true.
Originally posted by Enyalus
When I read that, I thought it was a clear example of hyperbole. I don't think he was actually suggesting what you are claiming.Most of his losses were already retconned as being avatars. Until otherwise proven, his losses against Supes in AN and S/B 13 are valid.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345So DS is stronger than Galactus and the Celestials (except Scathan)?
I doubt it,as soon as he says that and gets up all space time becomes more fractured...the kind of thing morrison is trying to push is that we havn't really seen the new gods its essentially a second avatar retcon,unless you want to believe superman can beat multiversal characters.