Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Taskmaster has thrown Iron Man across a room with one arm...Iron Man weighs a lot.
Tasky also killed a guy with a few double speed punches in his mini.
Do you have scans for the Iron man feat?
Killing a guy with punches is more do to with striking power. Real life boxers can punch with 1000lbs of force. Yet there is no way in hell they can lift that.
Originally posted by Warrior18'
Those are excellent feats. Far from what Task has ever done. Now imagine Caps feats and the gap is even bigger.Bullseye?
Cap's considerable strength advantage is a factor though. Strength is a factor in fights.
Cap is more durable.
He doesn't get tired compared to Task.
I don't know if Cap is faster but I can say for sure Task isn't going to be faster than Cap.
Cap is a top tier one of Marvel's best. So is Task.Cap wins. It's hard but he still wins.
Taskmaster isn't JUST a martial artist.
- He can become faster than Captain America if he so chooses to
- Taskmasters knows Cap in and out, he knows what moves Cap will use and can easily predict what he's going to do.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Tasky is faster than Cap with his bullet speed.He can also predict everything Cap does before Cap can..
Cap isn't going to land a blow.
1.He has caught a bullet once if I recall. It was incredibly difficult to do since he doesn't regularly catch bullets out of midair in fights. He is not a bullet catcher.
2. Yet several people beforehand have decked him. No offence but where did you get this somewhat laughable idea from? 😬
Striking Power is more important in a fight...
And the Iron Man fight (here's the whole thing)
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takesironman4nv3pc.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takesironman22ib0zs.jpg
http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/1372/takesironman35un2op.jpg
And here's Tasky vs Cap and Iron Man at the same time-
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takongdownavengers19rh4cf.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takongdownavengers28jp9rv.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takongdownavengers31fr3bj.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4752/takongdownavengers41uu7nl.jpg
And both of those fights were prior to gaining the bullet time thing.
Originally posted by Warrior18
1.He has caught a bullet once if I recall. It was incredibly difficult to do since he doesn't regularly catch bullets out of midair in fights. He is not a bullet catcher.2. Yet several people beforehand have decked him. No offence but where did you get this somewhat laughable idea from? 😬
1 - So what if he doesn't always catch a bullet, he CAN, it's feasible for him to do it.
2 - Having lost battles won't cut it as an argument. Taskmaster knows all of Cap's moves, pretty much like Iron Man. I don't see how Cap would land a single hit against someone who knows him inside out.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
'Taskmaster isn't JUST a martial artist.
- He can become faster than Captain America if he so chooses to
- Taskmasters knows Cap in and out, he knows what moves Cap will use and can easily predict what he's going to do.
1. How can he become faster? He can increase his speed for a very short period of time before his body literally falls apart. How can you even say this would be faster than Cap?
2. He knows what he has recorded. It hasn't saved him from losing to other fighters before has it?
Originally posted by Warrior18
1.He has caught a bullet once if I recall. It was incredibly difficult to do since he doesn't regularly catch bullets out of midair in fights. He is not a bullet catcher.2. Yet several people beforehand have decked him. No offence but where did you get this somewhat laughable idea from? 😬
Taskmaster's power is to remember and be able to perform any physical skill he sees performed. Thats how he knows the fighting style of like, most MU heroes and villains and thats how he beats people like Iron Man and Spiderman who physically outclass him in every aspect apart from skill.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Taskmaster's power is to remember and be able to perform any physical skill he sees performed. Thats how he knows the fighting style of like, most MU heroes and villains and thats how he beats people like Iron Man and Spiderman who physically outclass him in every aspect apart from skill.
The only difference is that Warrior 18's ridiculous bias will give Cap the win, no matter what. Taskmaster can fight both Captain America and Iron Man at the same time, but naturally Captain America beats him alone.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
1 - So what if he doesn't always catch a bullet, he CAN, it's feasible for him to do it.2 - Having lost battles won't cut it as an argument. Taskmaster knows all of Cap's moves, pretty much like Iron Man. I don't see how Cap would land a single hit against someone who knows him inside out.
1. No think. If he could catch bullets willy nilly all the time he would do it..........all the time. He doesn't. He did it once and it required ridiculous concentration. In fact it ended with him on the floor since he had to cushion the blow if I recall. Do you realise Cap can actually pretty much see bullets?
2. Where does it say he knows all of Caps moves if I may ask?
I have always thought he knows just what he has recorded?
Iron Man's knowledge of Cap's style was completely different. He used his computers to calculate what Cap would do.
Originally posted by Warrior18
1. No think. If he could catch bullets willy nilly all the time he would do it..........all the time. He doesn't. He did it once and it required ridiculous concentration. In fact it ended with him on the floor since he had to cushion the blow if I recall. Do you realise Cap can actually pretty much see bullets?2. Where does it say he knows all of Caps moves if I may ask?
I have always thought he knows just what he has recorded?
Iron Man's knowledge of Cap's style was completely different. He used his computers to calculate what Cap would do.
He didn't need to concentrate at all.
He wasn't even looking at the person who shot him.
And saying he'd do it all the time is not an argument. The Silver Surfer has made a black hole on panel but b/c he doesn't do it all the time he can't? Same argument.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
The only difference is that Warrior 18's ridiculous bias will give Cap the win, no matter what. Taskmaster can fight both Captain America and Iron Man at the same time, but naturally Captain America beats him alone.
I don't know why you are being so hostile to me. I haven't been rude to any of you guys. I'm not bias. I actually like Taskmaster and I get annoyed when he loses to guys like Moonknight by simply crying on the floor. It is degrading to a good character.
It is just Cap is physically (strength, durability, stamina) superior to task based on feats. He is also very very fast and is t least as good of a fighter.
Originally posted by Warrior18
I don't know why you are being so hostile to me. I haven't been rude to any of you guys. I'm not bias. I actually like Taskmaster and I get annoyed when he loses to guys like Moonknight by simply crying on the floor. It is degrading to a good character.It is just Cap is physically (strength, durability, stamina) superior to task based on feats. He is also very very fast and is t least as good of a fighter.
For some reason you won't accept that strength and stamina do not make such a big difference when fighting someone who knows what you're going to do. Taskmaster took on Cap and Iron Man, Cap and Power Pack and did just fine. He was able to defeat Spider-man and Deadpool and completely humiliate Spider-Woman when they fought back in the day.
Superhuman stats do not make that big of a difference when fighting him, the man has already beaten people with far superior stats.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
He didn't need to concentrate at all.He wasn't even looking at the person who shot him.
And saying he'd do it all the time is not an argument. The Silver Surfer has made a black hole on panel but b/c he doesn't do it all the time he can't? Same argument.
It is an argument. I don't read SS so I won't comment. Why would SS want to make Bllack holes all the time anyway?
Yet in task's case how can you guys assume he has regular bullet speed and he has only done it once. Out of all the gun battles he has been in it makes no sense for him to not utilise that ability regularly does it not?
By the way he flat out told Moonight or Marlene that he has no superspeed.
Those scans are great Almighty but this is a h2h battle. No cool toys. He might be able to dodge and flip people like Iron man but without weapons there would be no way for Tasky to actually damage IM significantly like he did with the energy shield thingie and the disruptor arrow.
On the same token, IM said that Tasky was able to perfectly counter Cap's attack. They both used sheilds and if the sheilds were taken away, I think tasky can still anticipate Cap's moves. Based on what IM said on panel.
Originally posted by Lord Feron
Those scans are great Almighty but this is a h2h battle. No cool toys. He might be able to dodge and flip people like Iron man but without weapons there would be no way for Tasky to actually damage IM significantly like he did with the energy shield thingie and the disruptor arrow.On the same token, IM said that Tasky was able to perfectly counter Cap's attack. They both used sheilds and if the sheilds were taken away, I think tasky can still anticipate Cap's moves. Based on what IM said on panel.
You do realize that Cap is much more dependent on having his shield than Taskmaster is? Task can just switch to another style, still predict what Cap does and beat the living crap out of him.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
For some reason you won't accept that strength and stamina do not make such a big difference when fighting someone who knows what you're going to do. Taskmaster took on Cap and Iron Man, Cap and Power Pack and did just fine. He was able to defeat Spider-man and Deadpool and completely humiliate Spider-Woman when they fought back in the day.Superhuman stats do not make that big of a difference when fighting him, the man has already beaten people with far superior stats.
Taskmaster doesn't know what Cap is going to do though. He has just recorded some of his fighting style if I recall.
And yes superior physical stats will be insanely important. Particularly when Cap is at least as good of a fighter.
Originally posted by Warrior18
It is an argument. I don't read SS so I won't comment. Why would SS want to make Bllack holes all the time anyway?Yet in task's case how can you guys assume he has regular bullet speed and he has only done it once. Out of all the gun battles he has been in it makes no sense for him to not utilise that ability regularly does it not?
By the way he flat out told Moonight or Marlene that he has no superspeed.
That Moonknight arc was hardly the best interpretation of Tasky in the world.
But if we're honest, he hasn't been in many gun situations since his own mini.
Agent X would probably be the last time we've seen someone shoot him, as he's been playing with hero's in every appearance since then since then.
But he has shown that speed in a combat situation-
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/4624/marvelcomicstaskmaster004147fz.jpg
Moving so fast the men couldn't aim at him.
And a strength feat- first a one hit kill with a palm strike, then crushing a guy's skull-
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/6879/marvelcomicstaskmaster004062hq.jpg
Originally posted by Warrior18
Taskmaster doesn't know what Cap is going to do though. He has just recorded some of his fighting style if I recall.And yes superior physical stats will be insanely important. Particularly when Cap is at least as good of a fighter.
Ok, here's an example of Tasky predicting moves via watching someone fight-
Watches Deadpool-
http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool002092ed.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool002107xx.jpg
And then fights him-
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool002111pl.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2329/deadpool002125xf.jpg
Missing the most important scan where Tasky comments on what Deadpool was about to do then counters it... but here's how the fight ends anyway.
http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deadpool002141by.jpg
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
You do realize that Cap is much more dependent on having his shield than Taskmaster is? Task can just switch to another style, still predict what Cap does and beat the living crap out of him.
Hope you know I am agreeing with you... you sound as if I am not but I could be just be moody...
Originally posted by AlmightyKfishhttp://img489.imageshack.us/img489/4624/marvelcomicstaskmaster004147fz.jpg
Moving so fast the men couldn't aim at him.And a strength feat- first a one hit kill with a palm strike, then crushing a guy's skull-
http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/6879/marvelcomicstaskmaster004062hq.jpg
Again good feats. Yet the speed isn't anything above what other street levelers have done.
Again Cap has demonstrated equal to or more impressive strength or striking power feats before.
