Re: Whose: The Sith or The Jedi
Originally posted by dark-jaina
The Sith say their all powerful,but they get their ass all the time by the Jedi. Isn't it true.Give me your opinion.
Not really,
Maul kills Qui-gon and out duels Obiwan but his overconfidence allows Obiwan to kill him. Sith 1, Jedi 1
In AOTC Count Dooku injures both Obiwan and Anakin in their duel but is forced to retreat to Yoda. Sith 3 Jedi 2
In ROTS"
Sidious kills 3 jedi masters who were some of the greatest duelists in the jedi order's entire history in seconds and the Mace outduels. The lightning scene is interesting because we see what happens to Sidious but it is worth mentioning that his lightning forces Mace's saber to come so close to his face that he chokes on its ozone. But I'd give a point to the jedi there so the score is now Sith 6 ,Jedi 3.
Earlier in the movie Dooku knocks out Obwian (could have killed him if is was 1v1) and dies to Anakin. Sith 7, Jedi 4.
When Vader goes to the jedi temple he certainly racks up a high kill count but I will only count the two he killed as we see kill in the holo Obiwan watches. Sith 9,Jedi 4.
At the end of the movie Obiwan beats Vader. But the Sidious vs Yoda fight ended in a draw as neither were able to kill or severely harm the other one. Sith 9, Jedi 5.
In ANH Obiwan sacrifices himself to Vader so I wont give either side a point. In ESB Vader beats Luke. Sith 10, Jedi 5
In ROTJ Luke chops off Vader's hand. Then newly redeemed Anakin Skywalker hurls Sidious down the reactor shaft. Sith 10, Jedi 6. However I'm giving the sith a point (I'd understand if you wouldn't) because Sidious's lightning is what kills Anakin.
So it is Sith 11,Jedi 6.
Re: Whose: The Sith or The Jedi
Originally posted by dark-jaina
The Sith say their all powerful,but they get their ass all the time by the Jedi. Isn't it true.Give me your opinion.
They trade off, The Sith defeat the Jedi, the Jedi defeat the sith... and back and forth and back and forth...
Originally posted by queeq
Use things from the movies or drop the argument.
Or it could be moved to the EU fourm so that we could use ALL of Star Wars, and then you wouldn't get upset that we are not following your all's dogmatic narrow view of Star Wars (Ya know, saying that only the movies count.)
Re: Re: Whose: The Sith or The Jedi
Originally posted by THE JLRTENJAC
Or it could be moved to the EU fourm so that we could use ALL of Star Wars, and then you wouldn't get upset that we are not following your all's dogmatic narrow view of Star Wars (Ya know, saying that only the movies count.)
Agreed to an extent. The Prequel and OT forums are obsolete in situations like this.
well it hasnt been moved so we are sticking to the movies only....breaking it down... Yoda showed he is more powerful in the force than Palps by taking his best and shoving it right back in his face....he would have fully succeeded in defeating him if they were in a place he wouldnt have fell...Mace beat him in swordsmanship(much debate gone on there as this was annie's turning point and he MAY have lost on purpose there?) Luke simply whined to daddy to beat the emperor..lol...after beating vader too...me on the other hand I defeated sweersa by hitting him with a yellow snowball...lol...oh wait wrong thread...back to it...obi-wan defeated vader in the first battle...annie defeated dooku finally in #3...yoda showed he was more powerful than dooku as he couldnt even scratch him using force power after saying he was more powerful than any jedi...Luke told the emperor he was weak due to overconfindence...so.... I say IMO overconfidence is the sith's weakness that makes them not all powerful...yeah thats my opinion based on movies only....Jedi r more powerful..good triumphs over evil as is the case with most sci-fi movies....that was all to much thinking time to head to the milk bar for refreshments..lol..Ive confused myself again
Originally posted by chilled monkey
Speak for yourself. I prefer the books.Besides, as long as it doesn't directly contradict the movies, it should be counted.
Uncle Owen is Obi-Wan's brother then. and Jedi plural is "Jedis," lastly Hutt is spelled "Hut."
I would never take anything from these books canon if they are not in the movies. Star Wars is all about the films, the books are based on the films not the other way around like Harry Potter.