Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Only the Supermen and Jedi/Siths have a legitimate shot at winning at a straight out battle. I think Palpatine or Yoda(or Luke Skywalker even) could take on Superman. Don't Force sensitives have omnipresence in the sense that they control the general "flow" of how events occur?
They don't have a chance. Superman's ridiculous factor defeats all.
Originally posted by Dr Will HatchWrong. Palpatine is certainly the most poweful here assuming were using them at their prime FROM the movies. This would make Kenobi, Dooku, Yoda, and Windu ROTS. And Luke, Vader, and Palpatine ROTJ. Combined they couldn't take Superman. Luke is nowhere near the equivalent of the Force God he is in the EU yet from ROTJ. Hell he's the weakest Jedi on the list in Force mastery and saber skill.
I think Palpatine or Yoda(or Luke Skywalker even) could take on Superman.
No one in this thread is capable of taking the two Supermen.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Only the Supermen and Jedi/Siths have a legitimate shot at winning at a straight out battle. I think Palpatine or Yoda(or Luke Skywalker even) could take on Superman. Don't Force sensitives have omnipresence in the sense that they control the general "flow" of how events occur?
obviously not seeing as how 99% ended up getting brutally killed in one way or another
Originally posted by Darth Martin
He's on both of the lists.
Originally posted by Placidity😕 Where?
Heroes from superhero Franchises face off against each other!For the scenario, because I CBS, I'll just copy the "MK vs DCU" game's plot, which is that different universes are merging/colliding, and the Heroes and Villains must fight together against other alternate universes, blah blah.
Actually, I'll just make it that they are all entered into a team tournament.
[b]Team Hulk
Hulk (Hulk)
Hulk (The Incredible Hulk)
Abomination
David Banner (Absorbing Man's Powers)Team Spiderman
Spiderman
New Goblin
Green Goblin
Venom
Doctor OctopusTeam X-men
Magneto
Juggernaut
Wolverine
Pyro
Cyclops
Storm
Jean Grey (Not DP)
Colossus
IcemanTeam Underworld
Selene
Marcus
Viktor
Michael
Lucian
William
RazeTeam Ironman
Ironman
WarmongerTeam Force
Yoda
Mace Windu
Emperor Palpatine
Darth Vader
Obi Wan
Count Dooku
Darth MaulTeam F4
Silver Surfer
Doctor Doom
Reed Richards
Susan Storm
Human Torch
The ThingTeam Superman
Superman (Routh)
Superman (Classic)Team Transformers
Megatron
Starscream
Optimus Prime
Blackout
Bonecrusher
Devastator
IronhideTeam AvP
Wolf (P)
Celtic (P)
Scar (p)
Chopper (P)
Grid (Alien)
Alien QueenTeam Terminator
T-X
T-1000
T-101. . .
List teams that finish 1st, 2nd and 3rd, and also last. [/B]
Originally posted by jaden101I think my theory could still apply. The way I see it, Palpatine was so powerful in the Force that he clouded everyones mind willingly, and converting Anakin to evil just tipped the balance even further. When Luke was old enough to put his angst and righteousness to good use, he inadvertenly tipped the scale back into the light, since he is technically more powerful than both Palpatine and Vader. Luke was corrupted by Palps ghost, and that would explain why the galaxy has been in torment from that period to the Yuuzhan Vong invasion, who of course have nothing to do with the Force.
obviously not seeing as how 99% ended up getting brutally killed in one way or another
True, but since Palps is supposed to be more powerful than any of them, he willed them into screwing up. Sort of like an unconscious battle meditation. That's my theory for explaining various inconsistencies in SW. For example, since Luke at the time of ROTJ wasn't as well versed at Palps, his subconscious Force ability allowed Palps to be wrong about his visions.
I wouldn't go as far as saying he "willed" them, that implies that he had control of their minds. I believe he was just really good at covering his tracks, at using others to accomplish his goals. Look at Dooku, he had served his purpose, so Palpy manipulated Annie into killing him. THAT was willing someone, he had control of Annie and he knew it.
I mean that he had mastery over the Force enough to slip up the Jedi Council. The Force itself is all powerful, and Force sensitives are merely avatars of the Force which can't manifest it in all its glory for some reason. Palps was a Machiavellian and strategic genius in his own right, but his control over the Force led to all the corruption that occured.