If they only Made Empire Strikes back

Originally posted by queeq
The ROTJ scenes between Vader and Luke, and with the Emperor are some of the best in the entire saga. Still, ESB works best as a whole movie.

Spot on. For me every scene in ESB is outstanding.

Originally posted by queeq
The ROTJ scenes between Vader and Luke, and with the Emperor are some of the best in the entire saga. Still, ESB works best as a whole movie.

I agree it is a good film but I wouldn't say it is "whole." It ends on a cliff hanger (Han being frozen) and the fate of the good guys is uncertain, they got their butts kicked. Then it ends.

It has no real good resolution other than a majority of the heroes rubbing from the Imperials after suffering losses.

It is a whole as a second act.

Originally posted by queeq
It is a whole as a second act.

Aren't they all though?

Nope. ANH is a first act, ROTJ a third.

Originally posted by queeq
Nope. ANH is a first act, ROTJ a third.

No, I mean whole. ANH is actually the 4th act, lol.

This post was an accident.

Originally posted by sweersa
No, I mean whole. ANH is actually the 4th act, lol.

No, not really. The PT is one story (where the acts are all screwy) and the OT is another. But then each movie has three acts as well..

Originally posted by queeq
No, not really. The PT is one story (where the acts are all screwy) and the OT is another. But then each movie has three acts as well..

It is all one story, three er I mean two trilogies, with 9 er I mean 6 films.

Basically yeah. Rise and fall of Anakin Skywalker.

Rise - story one
Fall - story two.

Originally posted by queeq
Rise - story one
Fall - story two.

Yuppers.

Done.

ESB would not work as a stand-alone because its very nature is a sequel with a cliffhanger and unresolved plot threads.

Originally posted by LordPrydon
ESB would not work as a stand-alone because its very nature is a sequel with a cliffhanger and unresolved plot threads.

Agreed.

I am honored. *bows*

This is just the beginning. Hahaha.

That it is.

Originally posted by LordPrydon
ESB would not work as a stand-alone because its very nature is a sequel with a cliffhanger and unresolved plot threads.

Of course not, what's your point? The same goes for ROTJ, AOTC and ROTS. Or even movies like LOTR - Two Towers and Return of the King. Still allows us to judge ESb as the best working part there is.

Never said you couldn't enjoy it. The point is it does not work as a stand alone. Which answers the OP as far as my opinion permits.

Originally posted by queeq
Of course not, what's your point? The same goes for ROTJ, AOTC and ROTS. Or even movies like LOTR - Two Towers and Return of the King. Still allows us to judge ESb as the best working part there is.

The only SW movie I can see as being stand alone is ANH. Because it very well could have been.