Prove what? He was given a serum to turn him into a werewolf, but was reversed due to his healing factor however the mental effects remained which is what allowed the guy who could controll the werewolfs to controll wolverine as well.
No he could control Logan because he was a master of the mystic arts of the mind. He controlled Moonrider easily and he did not take the wolf serum.
Originally posted by horrorwolfback on topic...
If Wolverine was "stronger" than Cap, he would not have gotten pwned by Cap in those scans...leverage or not. CA imposed himself on Wolverine in those scans to a degree that:
1. Captain America clearly FORCED Wolverine to have to retract his own claws to prevent Cap from being forced to stab himself with HIS OWN claws, which is funny enough in itself.
2. The "physically superior" Wolverine had to resort to KICKING to free himself. LuLz.
Sorry but that argument is fail....as the very scans posted dispute Wolverine being any stronger than Cap, and if anything the scrapper got dominated physically.
hahahahahahahaha
your a funny guy
I mean trying to make a claim that capt stronger based of a very curcumstanial event is amusing.
First-Logan was not 100% or closes to it prior to fighting nuke
second-He just fought nuke
third-Capt had momentium
fourth-running start
fifth-leverage
sixth- Logan arm are in such an angle that he would not even beable to uses his entire chest unlike capt.
dominated? Capt with so many advantages in his favor still was able to put logan claws into him self.
Oh and you do realizes capt ened up having to go to the hospital after the fight? so stop saying he dominated when he ends up losing the fight. It jsut soudns stupid.
you have also yet to provide evidences that capt stronger. Oh and even though I believe there roughly the same strength at normal levels.
Logan berserker is clearly stronger then capt
Originally posted by Daredevil1
No he could control Logan because he was a master of the mystic arts of the mind. He controlled Moonrider easily and he did not take the wolf serum.
Originally posted by horrorwolfYour belligerent ignorance and neglect towards facts and common sense don't validate your claims OR your opinions for that matter.
😆FYI, I dont give a rats ass about if you, joeblow or anyone else here "takes me seriously" here or not. Actually, the very thought makes me lol. This is a message board, nothing more...just as my opinion is just as valid or invalid as yours may or may not be.
...So ....I'll let you spend your own time worrying about being validated by people on these boards.
K?...Thanks. 😉
back on topic...
If Wolverine was even the slightest bit "stronger" than Cap, he would not have gotten pwned by Cap in those scans...leverage or not. CA imposed himself on Wolverine in those scans to a degree that:
1. Captain America clearly FORCED Wolverine to have to retract his own claws to prevent Cap from being forced to stab himself with HIS OWN claws, which is funny enough in itself.
2. The "physically superior" Wolverine had to resort to KICKING to free himself....as he appeared to lack to upper body strength to push Cap away.... LuLz.
Sorry but that argument is 100% fail....as the very scans posted dispute Wolverine being any stronger than Cap, and if anything the scrapper got dominated physically.
I like how your assumption disregards the difference of one muscle group working against many. How you completely ignore that leverage and moment make a difference. And, how you carelessly assume that the scans mean anything revolving around a Wolverine at 100% anyway.
I would spend more time telling you how you're wrong but I can clearly see now that you probably have to get back to eating your milk and cookies while finishing your masterpiece for the fridge.
All I hear are a lot of excuses for why Cap is able to physcially dominate Wolverine for well over 5 panels.
I will give you the fact that leverage would account for Caps landing...but what about the other 5 PANELS of having his claws forced into his own face by Cap?
We can make excuses of why Wolverine was tired, or blindsighted etc...but he got plain dominated in those scan by what appears to be a physically superior combatant.
Unless you can show scans of him dominating Cap...this case is closed. Wolverine got pwned.
Originally posted by jinzin
Your belligerent ignorance and neglect towards facts and common sense don't validate your claims OR your opinions for that matter.I like how your assumption disregards the difference of one muscle group working against many. How you completely ignore that leverage and moment make a difference. And, how you carelessly assume that the scans mean anything revolving around a Wolverine at 100% anyway.
I would spend more time telling you how you're wrong but I can clearly see now that you probably have to get back to eating your milk and cookies while finishing your masterpiece for the fridge.
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more hurt feelings, and excuses.
If you can show a scan of Wolvie dominating Cap in like manner, I will take your side....
I however doubt you will produce anything in Wolverines favor to counter those two scans though, love to be proven wrong though, so I'll wait.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
All I hear are a lot of excuses for why Cap is able to physcially dominate Wolverine for 5 panels.I will give you the fact that leverage would account for Caps landing...but what about the other 5 PANELS of having his claws forced into his own face by Cap?
We can make excuses of why Wolverine was tired, or blindsighted etc...but he got plain dominated in those scan by what appears to be a physically superior combatant.
Unless you can show scans of him dominating Cap...this case is closed. Wolverine got pwned.
.......Logans claws were at his face for a single pannel.......one not five........
..........dominated? His opponet ran caught him by surprized and nocked him on the ground..........there nothing that even suggest domination.........how dilusional are you?
wtf are you talking about. Capot dident dominate anything god lord, your a retard.
Originally posted by BattlehammerOh and Logan has also pinned Capt down before.
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/622/captainamerica5pz3.jpg
Originally posted by Battlehammer
all I hear from you is a bunch of dilusional thoughts........Logans claws were at his face for a single pannel.......one not five........
..........dominated? His opponet ran caught him by surprized and nocked him on the ground..........there nothing that even suggest domination.........how dilusional are you?
wtf are you talking about. Capot dident dominate anything god lord, your a retard.
domination is getting your own claws forced into your own face....and get it done over 5 panels. Not only that, he was forced to retract his claws...as well as resort to kicking to escape. very poor showing for a character who is supposedly superior in strength.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
domination is getting your own claws forced into your own face....and get it done over 5 panels. Not only that, he was forced to retract his claws...as well as resort to kicking to escape. very poor showing for a character who is supposedly superior in strength.
It was only one pannel..........and he was only able to get into that postion becauses of many circumstances.........are you like a little slow? or not well at comprehention?
No there are the same strength unless wolverine berserker.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
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more hurt feelings, and excuses.If you can show a scan of Wolvie dominating Cap in like manner, I will take your side....
I however doubt you will produce anything in Wolverines favor to counter those two scans though, love to be proven wrong though, so I'll wait.
Excuses... right... I'll just take it then that you've never picked up a weight in your life that wasn't labeled a quarter pounder.
Thing is, I don't NEED to counter those scans since they don't prove anything other than the fact that Cap is barely stronger using his full weight against Wolverine than Logan's one muscle group of Tricep Brachi. If your argument is that Cap's got more pound for pound strength than Wolverine's tricep then you're doing one hell of a job. 🙄
Originally posted by Battlehammer
...........and yet they never hit his face.........It was only one pannel..........and he was only able to get into that postion becauses of many circumstances.........are you like a little slow? or not well at comprehention?
No there are the same strength unless wolverine berserker.
So I guess he retracted his own claws only because he didnt want them to "reflect light into his own eyes" or some bs....and not because of the danger to himself...???
Wolverine's own words:
"whats he think Im stupid? Ill just.." SNIK! SNIK!....
he ended up being forced to retract his own claws, because he needed to keep Cap from gradually forcing his own claws into his skull. This is the only reason Wolverines own claws didnt impale himself.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
So I guess he retracted his own claws only because he didnt want them to "reflect light into his own eyes" or some bs....and not because of the danger to himself...???
Originally posted by horrorwolf
he ended up being forced to retract his own claws, because he needed to keep Cap from gradually forcing his own claws into his skull.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
So I guess he retracted his own claws only because he didnt want them to "reflect light into his own eyes" or some bs....and not because of the danger to himself...???Wolverine's own words:
"whats he think Im stupid? Ill just.." SNIK! SNIK!....
he ended up being forced to retract his own claws, because he needed to keep Cap from gradually forcing his own claws into his skull. This is the only reason Wolverines own claws didnt stab himself.
Clearly you are a man who is not familiar with the human skull. There aren't any openings on a human skull that would be big enough for a single one of Wolverine's claws to penetrate without forcing them through the skull... which would be impossible in Wolverine's case due to adamantium. The fact that he has three claws on each hand, all of which are the same length with more than an inch spacing between makes it even more impossible.
Wolverine retracted his claws to prevent mild superficial damage... coincidental the only type of damage Cap can dish out against Wolverine. 😄
Originally posted by horrorwolf
You have still produced nothing proving Wolverine to be stronger than Captain America....as you somehow claim.What do you base this on?
Your the one trying to say capot better using highly circumstanial evidences which does not even prove what your trying to say it does.
I said Berserker wolverine stronger there a big differences, but as usual you likly have no diea what that differences is would you like me to explain it?
