Best Battle Rifle

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
Its funny I started this thread about "Battle rifles" thinking I might find some people who new what they were talking about . Weighing coast to Caliber to Quality but, what i keep seeing are these Barrett M107's?? They coast 10 to $13,000 ,not to mention the coast of .50 Cal. ammo, they weigh 30lbs, almost 5' long and have a 5 shot capacity. This is not even close to a Battle rifle. Its a Sniper Canon . I doubt anyone on this forum could afford one nor would they be skilled enough to shoot anything 1,900m away.

Sorry dont mean to be a dick but this is rediculous!

You never asked "best battle rifle you can afford" did you?

No.

Nor did you specify the parameters of the battle.

So stop moaning.

And besides. This is merely another thread to promote your militia, end of the world, governmental breakdown paranoia.

Noone's impressed by your knowlege of weapons or the fact that you own some because we all know it's just to make up for the fact that you have a tiny cock.

Originally posted by jaden101
You never asked "best battle rifle you can afford" did you?

No.

Nor did you specify the parameters of the battle.

So stop moaning.

And besides. This is merely another thread to promote your militia, end of the world, governmental breakdown paranoia.

Noone's impressed by your knowlege of weapons or the fact that you own some because we all know it's just to make up for the fact that you have a tiny cock.

ZING

Originally posted by jaden101
You never asked "best battle rifle you can afford" did you?

No.

Nor did you specify the parameters of the battle.

So stop moaning.

And besides. This is merely another thread to promote your militia, end of the world, governmental breakdown paranoia.

Noone's impressed by your knowlege of weapons or the fact that you own some because we all know it's just to make up for the fact that you have a tiny cock.

Actually I did express parameters: Caliber,Affordability and Quality. It is apparent that you didnt bother to read my initial post. I am not trying to impress anyone with my knowledge of weapons I simply wanted an intelligent discussion with like minded people. And my point was valid , a barrett .50 Cal. is not even a battle rifle. So if you have a problem then why bother posting at all. I guess making belittling comments about someone makes you and your Inferior Intellect, feel Superior.
Bravo with the tiny cock comment. Very original.

BTW. Me and my tiny cock fought for your freedom, to voice your simple minded opinions. I gained my knowledge of weapons in the U.S. Marine Corps. Where did you get yours?

Well if we are being picky and to be fair..neither the AK-47 or Mini-14 you chose would be classified as "battle rifles". They would be assault rifles and a carbine.

According to wikipedia at least 😄

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
Actually I did express parameters: Caliber,Affordability and Quality. It is apparent that you didnt bother to read my initial post. I am not trying to impress anyone with my knowledge of weapons I simply wanted an intelligent discussion with like minded people. And my point was valid , a barrett .50 Cal. is not even a battle rifle. So if you have a problem then why bother posting at all. I guess making belittling comments about someone makes you and your Inferior Intellect, feel Superior.
Bravo with the tiny cock comment. Very original.

BTW. Me and my tiny cock fought for your freedom, to voice your simple minded opinions. I gained my knowledge of weapons in the U.S. Marine Corps. Where did you get yours?

I'm afraid you never fought for my freedom because contrary to what you might believe, there's a whole world outside the USofA and those few countries it decides to "liberate"

I'd have to question the legitimacy of you saying you were in the Marines by saying you were fighting for people's freedom because i've never known that to ever be a genuine for people in the services. When you ask them why they are fighting it's always for the people they are fighting with. Of course the "fighting for freedom" line is always good to trot out as a PR thing or to try and make someone feel guilty for pointing out that blowing up weddings doesn't really fit the criteria of liberating the world from evil dictators.

And no..you didn't stipulate the parameters of the debate..you mentioned that 1 of your choices had expensive ammo and another was a cheap rifle to buy...Nor did you state the scenario of the battle...Unless, course, you're arguing that noone goes to battle using high calibre anti-material rifles.

Well done though. You gained your superior intellect in the Marines. I gained my inferior intellect doing a PhD at university. Your superior intellect with get you a job outside the military as a security guard at a shopping centre. Well done you.

I can only hope there is an extreme minority with the right mental reactionary mentality of

So All this being said. Arm yourselves. Remington 870 pump and 1100 auto are good shotguns. Czech made AK-47 are good battle riffles and cheap but wont penetrate body armor 7.62x39.. Stoner or Bushmaster AR-15(Expensive), Ruger Mini-14(Cheap to buy) H&K 93-91(Expensive) 5.56 and 7.62x59 both of these calibers will penetrate body armor. Springfield M1-A1 great weapon. Pistols Glock 17-21 9mm, SF XD9, Beretta storm, FNP.Start training. Learn to live off the land. Research local vegetation. Buy ammo now before Bidden passes sanctions on the purchasing of Ammo. Get Body armor before they outlaw the sale of it,which they are in the process now of doing. Get a med-pac and survivlae bag ready.

As for where i gained my knowlege of big scary guns...TEH INTERWEBZ111!!!!!

Actually i have more than a little knowlege about 1 battle rifle...the SA-80. Served some time in the TA. For me, It was a totally useless gun because i'm a left hander and the one i got ejected spent casings to the right, meaning right infront of and into my face. I also spent time in the TA at the time when the SA80 was having it's infamous reliability issues (although i'm informed they've been addressed) meaning it constantly jammed. The magazine release mechanism was a nightmare because you always hit it accidently and dropped the magazine out of the rifle.

So all things considered, I wouldn't choose that as my rifle.

Originally posted by KidRock
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The problem is there ARE different sort of battles.

look a the Palestinians now getting bombed the crap out of at the moment, their normal weapons, stones and the odd Ak 47, won´t do them any good against F16 bombers and Apache gunships now will it.

As for this "you fought for my freedom" comment, come ON!!!! are you really that blind, you (& I) fought for the rich big cats who control the governments and banks so they can get control of some more oil. Just because you fight for some government doesn´t mean you arn´t just some well trained mercenary.

And seeing as your an (ex) US marine, how many enemys have you stopped from invading the USA then?

I remember this one time I fought someone over a Mars bar. I got pwned.

She was a lesbian truck driver.

A "battle rifle" is a certain type of gun, I believe. The type of battle wouldn't really matter...

6.5 mm Grendel bullet in test, AR-15

It's a minimalist answer to what I think should replace the standard assault rifles being used.

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
Its funny I started this thread about "Battle rifles" thinking I might find some people who new what they were talking about . Weighing coast to Caliber to Quality but, what i keep seeing are these Barrett M107's?? They coast 10 to $13,000 ,not to mention the coast of .50 Cal. ammo, they weigh 30lbs, almost 5' long and have a 5 shot capacity. This is not even close to a Battle rifle. Its a Sniper Canon . I doubt anyone on this forum could afford one nor would they be skilled enough to shoot anything 1,900m away.

Sorry dont mean to be a dick but this is rediculous!

No, what's ridiculous is you calling a .50 weapon a cannon. A typical modern cannon or autocannon has a bore of .80, minimum. 😂

The cool thing about a Forum is being able to discuss things with like minded people around the world. The bad thing, is that people say things that they never would if you were face to face with them. I mad a post asking people to comment on the subject of battle riffles. I point out that Barrett m107s are not a "Battle " riffle. If that were the case every infantryman would be issued one but, they are not so, this to me is self evident that it is not a "Battle " riffle. So I express this. I get a response of slander saying i am compensating for a tiny cock and my service to My country and to England, because Operation Desert Shield/Storm was to secure BRITISH oil fields, is questioned. If This person who made those comments were in my presence ,He would not have said those things. He would not have the balls. So he can sit back and feel some sense of accomplishment that he "Told" me and feel Superior in his rhetorical skills But, he is a Coward because he knows he can say what ever he wants without any repercussion. I did serve my Country and England,which, unless the guy with the PhD. wants to enlighten me otherwise,, has representation in English Parliament. I was in Kuwait protecting his way of life. The interest of Great Brittan. 4th Sgd. Bravo Comp. 1stBat. 3rd Reg. 1st Marine Div. Aug 1st/90-Mar.15/91 Believe me or not. I dont care. So thank you for contaminating the thread i started with your slanderous and accusatory remarks. It makes me feel good that I risked my life for your Country's and in tern, Your best interests. I hope your PhD. can help make the world a better place so my "Militia" agenda, paranoia, never comes to fruition.

Originally posted by jaden101
if it's sniping

gotta be the brand new (still in development)

50cal barrett xm500 semi-auto

Concerning sniping, I'd still opt for the NTW-20. When you've got a 20mm HE Round to snipe with, it's hard to miss even if you do miss.

still the SA80A2 (fixed from the more mechanically inferior version that jammed) is I belive the best rated infantry rifle, wielded by the British making it an even deadlier weapon. Personally however I would probably prefer a sniping weapon of some kind myself, keep away from the field while still dropping enemy targets.

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
The cool thing about a Forum is being able to discuss things with like minded people around the world. The bad thing, is that people say things that they never would if you were face to face with them. I mad a post asking people to comment on the subject of battle riffles. I point out that Barrett m107s are not a "Battle " riffle. If that were the case every infantryman would be issued one but, they are not so, this to me is self evident that it is not a "Battle " riffle. So I express this. I get a response of slander saying i am compensating for a tiny cock and my service to My country and to England, because Operation Desert Shield/Storm was to secure BRITISH oil fields, is questioned. If This person who made those comments were in my presence ,He would not have said those things. He would not have the balls. So he can sit back and feel some sense of accomplishment that he "Told" me and feel Superior in his rhetorical skills But, he is a Coward because he knows he can say what ever he wants without any repercussion. I did serve my Country and England,which, unless the guy with the PhD. wants to enlighten me otherwise,, has representation in English Parliament. I was in Kuwait protecting his way of life. The interest of Great Brittan. 4th Sgd. Bravo Comp. 1stBat. 3rd Reg. 1st Marine Div. Aug 1st/90-Mar.15/91 Believe me or not. I dont care. So thank you for contaminating the thread i started with your slanderous and accusatory remarks. It makes me feel good that I risked my life for your Country's and in tern, Your best interests. I hope your PhD. can help make the world a better place so my "Militia" agenda, paranoia, never comes to fruition.

Fighting for England?...Good for you. I'm not English...regardless...I Admit to have being a bit reactionary in calling you out. I apologise. One thing i am not, however, is a coward. I've told bigger men than you, to their faces, what i think for them because that is my nature. If they deserve to be told, they get told.

I respect what you did but please don't patronise me that it was somehow for a way of life or freedom or liberty or some such other cliche because we both know that's not why you fight.

Perhaps you joined the military with those ideals in mind but they don't last. A great friend of mine served almost 14 years in the military

That's him on the right of the picture. He served in Northern Ireland during "the troubles". Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia. He saw countless of his friends die. He has PTSD and almost killed his brother in the middle of the night whilst sleepwalking and dreaming of his experiences in the middle east. I've spoken with him often about it and the one thing he told me is that all the news bulletins when troops are talking about securing freedom etc...It's all bullshit...you fight for your friends and your friends fight for you. Half the troops think the war is bullshit anyway but they do it because that's their job.

So if you want to pretend that you have some idealised notion of why you went to war...great...If it's actually genuine then you're in a minority and i think you know it too.

But yes. I hope i do good things too. I hope you do also because i know that being ex military can be very difficult for along of ex servicemen and that employers can sometimes have negative opinions

After all is said and done. The original SA80 is still piece of shit. 😆

Anyway...i still named you as someone from KMC whom i'd want to have my back in a fight because you're ex marines (or still are...haven't really paid that much attention) so must at least be handy in a scrap.

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
The cool thing about a Forum is being able to discuss things with like minded people around the world. The bad thing, is that people say things that they never would if you were face to face with them.

I disagree. The good thing about the internet is that people are willing to say things they'd never say face to face.

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
I mad a post asking people to comment on the subject of battle riffles. I point out that Barrett m107s are not a "Battle " riffle.

I assume most people don't know exactly what defines a "battle rifle". In fact, even I don't know what qualifies a rifle as a battle rifle (the M107 was, howver, meant as a joke).

I change my vote. The most powerful weapon, battle rifle or not, is pussy.

I don´t believe someone actually mentioned the SA 80, this rifle is crap. It jams, the bullets don´t do any damage so you need to shoot the enemy 5 times to stop him, to mention a few problems.

I´d rather have the SLR than this toy.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
I change my vote. The most powerful weapon, battle rifle or not, is pussy.

Amen Brother. No truer words were spoken. 😆

Can't really disagree with that statement.