Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Would you like some noob butter on your fail biscuit? A well written comic is way better than any written star wars novel, fan fiction or otherwise.
Publius, Blank101, and Matthew Stover would like to disagree, as would the books Labyrinth of Evil and Shatterpoint.
There are some graphic novels out there that I would prefer to read over novels. The Watchmen comes to mind; that isn't something you could accomplish in the medium of writing, it needed pictures.
Anyways, the Knights of the Old Republic comics are actually pretty decent. The only problem I have is when they bring in an artist that is too far from the usual art done for it.
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Publius, Blank101, and Matthew Stover would like to disagree, as would the books Labyrinth of Evil and Shatterpoint.
Publius' writing ability is overrated. He's a good writer, but I've seen better. Annd yes, I've also seen better written comics than any of his novels. I flat out didn't even like LoE, so meh. Shatterpoint was great, imo the best written starwars novel, but even that was, I feel, overly dramatic.
So they can disagree all they want. As REX pointed out, there are some things that comics can do that novels simply can't.
Originally posted by Blaxican
Publius' writing ability is overrated. He's a good writer, but I've seen better.
No.
Hell no.
Let's get one thing perfectly straight: when it comes to writing Star Wars or even Batman, there are none who come close to touching the magnificence of my master, the Great Publius (with the possible exception of Blank101 for his amazing Son of Suns trilogy). Unlike published and licensed LFL authors, Publius has a logical methodology. He understands simple things like math and logic, and doesn't create nor add to the numerous inconsistencies within the realm of Star Wars.
So, for example, because he understands the simple concept that a Galactic Republic/Empire/Alliance spans millions of worlds, there would logically require more than "lawl 3 million soldiers!!1!" for their armies. Here, he has a sizeable advantage over Karen Traviss, even though (joking aside) she is a "good author." As well as Timothy Zahn, who believes 200 antiquated dreadnaughts would be enough to tip the scales between the Empire and New Republic.
Likewise, Publius is also a master of understanding proper motivation for characters. So, here he has an advantage over Troy Denning and Aaron Allston who create Jacen Solo's motivation for going to the dark side as simply "murder = peace!!!1!" Yet they are "good authors."
Moving on, Publius understands that all Star Wars characters are fallible and portrays them as such. Even Palpatine. So yet again we have another tremendous advantage over the likes of Timothy Zahn or Drew Karpyshyn, who are blatantly egocentric and gratuitous with their own creations (i.e. Thrawn's very name being enough to make any NR official shit their pants, being a greater politician than Palpatine; Revan being responsible for everything ever and being the definition of godly [even though he spent about 3 years with the dark side]).
Publius is also extremely original when it comes to his own material. So, unlike the moron hacks who wrote Legacy, he enjoys the ability to come up with original characters with original storylines rather than try to woo the masses with a rehash of the PT and OT.
Lastly, Publius is good enough that he took a shitty example of EU (a comic book, no less) and transformed it into an enjoyable and believable fan novelization.
So when you tell me he's "overrated" or just "good," you simply don't know what the hell you're talking about. Joking aside, he's not the greatest ever, but he's miles above most.
Originally posted by Gideon
No.Hell no.
Let's get one thing perfectly straight: when it comes to writing Star Wars or even Batman, there are none who come close to touching the magnificence of my master, the Great Publius (with the possible exception of Blank101 for his amazing Son of Suns trilogy). Unlike published and licensed LFL authors, Publius has a logical methodology. He understands simple things like math and logic, and doesn't create nor add to the numerous inconsistencies within the realm of Star Wars.
So, for example, because he understands the simple concept that a Galactic Republic/Empire/Alliance spans millions of worlds, there would logically require more than "lawl 3 million soldiers!!1!" for their armies. Here, he has a sizeable advantage over Karen Traviss, even though (joking aside) she is a "good author." As well as Timothy Zahn, who believes 200 antiquated dreadnaughts would be enough to tip the scales between the Empire and New Republic.
Likewise, Publius is also a master of understanding proper motivation for characters. So, here he has an advantage over Troy Denning and Aaron Allston who create Jacen Solo's motivation for going to the dark side as simply "murder = peace!!!1!" Yet they are "good authors."
Moving on, Publius understands that all Star Wars characters are fallible and portrays them as such. Even Palpatine. So yet again we have another tremendous advantage over the likes of Timothy Zahn or Drew Karpyshyn, who are blatantly egocentric and gratuitous with their own creations (i.e. Thrawn's very name being enough to make any NR official shit their pants, being a greater politician than Palpatine; Revan being responsible for everything ever and being the definition of godly [even though he spent about 3 years with the dark side]).
Publius is also extremely original when it comes to his own material. So, unlike the moron hacks who wrote Legacy, he enjoys the ability to come up with original characters with original storylines rather than try to woo the masses with a rehash of the PT and OT.
Lastly, Publius is good enough that he took a shitty example of EU (a comic book, no less) and transformed it into an enjoyable and believable fan novelization.
So when you tell me he's "overrated" or just "good," you simply don't know what the hell you're talking about. Joking aside, he's not the greatest ever, but he's miles above most.
Originally posted by Gideon
No.
That's the thing, I didn't start with Publis and his standing among LFL characters. You go off on this rant about Publius being better than the various other starwars authors, despite the fact that all I said was this:
Publius' writing ability is overrated. He's a good writer, but I've seen better.
How does that translate into, "Publius writing ability is overrated. He's a good writer, but I've seen better Star Wars authors"?
Are you actually going to try to debate this with me? lol
It's not that hard to understand nor is it a subject worth debating. I never made the claim that you operated under the assumption that there were Star Wars authors better than Publius. You did, however, say that he was both "overrated" and "good." He's neither. Because he's a quite a bit better than "good" authors. Which makes him better than good.
Ergo, your claim that he's "good" is false. He's better than good. Great.
To be fair, if you're going to call Obama black you have to be willing to call him white. I'm amused at how the media glosses over this.
Oh, and Publius is overrated. I would point out the merits of Frank Miller as a creative icon for the ages, but I took a peek at The Dark Knight Strikes Again - the "sequel" to The Dark Knight Returns - and almost vomited. His directorial skills are also rather shitty; check out the movie The Spirit, please.