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1. Bane. Nihilius is an unknown.
2. Bane. The cut scene does not show us if big N had been "charging" the attack while the Exile & co. walked through his forces, and he *did* have to immobilize the Exile before he could use the Drain. Stun won't work on Bane b/c of the Orbalisks.
3. Bane. He moved a friggin MOON. (And his lightning rivals (not surpasses, rivals) Palpatine's.)
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Bane never moved a moon and theres absolutely nothing to suggest Nihilus charged the attack or was even aware of there presence before they stood directly in front of him. Plus I don't think he could use stun whilst charging an attack.
The moon was a joke. The cake is a lie. Get a sense of humor.
Considering that the Drain wasn't fast enough to use on other people (Visas/Mandalore would've been good snacks right after the botched drain) it clearly did take some time. He only tries the stun once, implying that something changed: the amount of time that big N. had to prepare the attack.
Originally posted by Red NemesisThen based on your own statements in the Revan vs. Caedus thread, we cannot pass accurate judgement here, since we know nothing of Nihilus's combat skills.
1. Bane. Nihilius is an unknown.
2. Bane. The cut scene does not show us if big N had been "charging" the attack while the Exile & co. walked through his forces,There's no indication at all that he was; "he might have" isn't an argument.
and he *did* have to immobilize the Exile before he could use the Drain.How do you know he "had" to?
And he managed to cripple Traya - someone far more experienced with and, by showings thus far, more powerful than the Exile - with a wave of his hand without "stunning" her.
Stun won't work on Bane b/c of the Orbalisks.Um, Farfalla managed to put Bane in stasis it for a split second after gathering his power. Farfalla > Nihilus?
Originally posted by Faunus
Then based on your own statements in the Revan vs. Caedus thread, we cannot pass accurate judgement here, since we know nothing of Nihilus's combat skills.
Originally posted by Faunus
There's no indication at all that he was; "he might have" isn't an argument.How do you know he "had" to?
And he managed to cripple Traya - someone far more experienced with and, by showings thus far, more powerful than the Exile - with a wave of his hand without "stunning" her.
Originally posted by Faunus
Um, Farfalla managed to put Bane in stasis it for a split second after gathering his power. Farfalla > Nihilus?
Doesn't RoT have something about the orbalisks feeding him chemicals to maintain consciousness? Nihlius's drain was mental- the cutscene shows stars and lines around the exile, not a stasis field. There does appear to be a difference.
Originally posted by Red NemesisHe started off the fight in a starved state as it was, and then crippled himself - he literally fell to his knees, IIRC - by trying to "sever" the Exile. He was hardly at his best.
Fair enough- I suppose the only basis for my decision on this one was that N. got beat by three nobodies (Exile & Co. included a non-force sensitive). You are completely right.
Also, keep in mind that one of the Exile's companions was Visas Marr, with whom Nihilus shared a bond in the Force. Killing her would only weaken him even further, which is why the player has the option to sacrifice her during the duel.
Doesn't RoT have something about the orbalisks feeding him chemicals to maintain consciousness? Nihlius's drain was mental- the cutscene shows stars and lines around the exile, not a stasis field. There does appear to be a difference.The "stars and lines" is the in-game engine's depiction of Force-induced stasis. Farfalla wrapped Bane in some sort of shimmering blue shield, which held him for a fraction of a second before shattering. While the exact nature of the techniques may differ, they seem very similar.
According to the Encyclopedia, Nihilus "managed to stun the Exile" but was unprepared for Visas Marr's devotion to her. Nihilus's entry goes on to say that Marr tried to exhange her life for the Exile's, giving the Exile time to recover. It concludes that "the Sith Lord was no match for their combined might and he fell in battle."
Likewise, it notes that he managed to encase his spirit in his battle armor after his death and when it was transported to Korriban for burial, Korriban's dark side nexus allowed him some contact with the physical world.
Christ. Maybe tomorrow. It also has info on that piece of shit Revan; Plagueis and Kun are identified at various times as two of the most powerful Dark Lords of the Sith; Bane is confirmed to be the Sith'ari; Palpatine's 'decay' is directly attributed with his power in the Force (not the bullshit claims Janus made in the day); ect.
Originally posted by GideonLuke?
Christ. Maybe tomorrow. It also has info on that piece of shit Revan; Plagueis and Kun are identified at various times as two of the most powerful Dark Lords of the Sith; Bane is confirmed to be the Sith'ari; Palpatine's 'decay' is directly attributed with his power in the Force (not the bullshit claims Janus made in the day); ect.